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  • #2356
    Originally posted by shivank View Post
    Here is a piece of thing you've been looking for.The last line has it mentioned over there clearly:
    Sultan oF Zwing - FZ16 vs Apache RTR vs Pulsar 150 vs Hunk - Motorcycle : Overdrive

    Now coming to ride position whilst braking,nobody told me about this(on earth or any other planet) but is out of my own observations!
    What you're trying to tell here in the OVERDRIVE test please select that piece of info and paste it here, cuz i didnt got any...

    And how,when,what you observed that made you come into the conclusion that riding position makes the brake feel spongy, do share.
    The Magician"

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    • #2357
      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
      What you're trying to tell here in the OVERDRIVE test please select that piece of info and paste it here, cuz i didnt got any...

      And how,when,what you observed that made you come into the conclusion that riding position makes the brake feel spongy, do share.
      My apologies sir!
      Here it is:
      The shroud meets a minimalist side panel-tailpiece unit that lends the bike a classy, international feel. In theory the air scoops actually channel air more efficiently to cool the engine. It gels perfectly with the angular head lamp that has a parking lamp in the chin that looks absolutely fantastic, beefy front forks, stubby muffler and short tail that mirrors that of the bigger FZ1.


      Braking is not smooth! The front of the bike juddering before coming to halt! Hope that explains the case better..
      If you ride like there's no tomorrow...worry not there won't be!

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      • #2358
        Originally posted by shivank View Post
        My apologies sir!
        Here it is:
        The shroud meets a minimalist side panel-tailpiece unit that lends the bike a classy, international feel. In theory the air scoops actually channel air more efficiently to cool the engine. It gels perfectly with the angular head lamp that has a parking lamp in the chin that looks absolutely fantastic, beefy front forks, stubby muffler and short tail that mirrors that of the bigger FZ1.


        Braking is not smooth! The front of the bike juddering before coming to halt! Hope that explains the case better..
        If you dont find any fault in the brake lines then the shock absorber's oil level and the the internal spring needs to be checked which could solve the juddering issue.

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        • #2359
          Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
          If you dont find any fault in the brake lines then the shock absorber's oil level and the the internal spring needs to be checked which could solve the juddering issue.
          Thanks!

          Any idea of how to solve the squealing sound from the brakes??
          If you ride like there's no tomorrow...worry not there won't be!

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          • #2360
            Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
            Buddy the pads work the best when they are cool and a quick blast of air (read 1 km) is enough for the pads to get cool and perform at their best.All right.

            [QUOTE=rags;403763]+1 for that. The brakes get pretty hot and to prevent fading they need to be cooled instead of the other way round, in fact TVS claims it uses petaled discs because it aids in faster heat dissipation. The brakes do have an optimum temperature which is somewhat higher than the ambient temperature but stainless steel discs have a pretty low operating temperature and easily reach that temperature when you apply the brakes. QUOTE]


            Buddy...a disc brake works best whn the pads reach an OPTIMUM TEMPERATURE and optimum temperature here means opearting temperature which in this case is neither too hot nor too cold....coz if its too hot they thend to fail called brake fade...thats why TVS claims their petal discs aid better cooling coz they dissipiate the heat better than the conventional ones...and if too cold they will take some time to reach their opearting temperature..i hope i make myself clear now..
            Nothing feels better than to gear up and burn some rubber ! ! !

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            • #2361
              Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
              If you dont find any fault in the brake lines then the shock absorber's oil level and the the internal spring needs to be checked which could solve the juddering issue.
              I have a slight problem like this with my front brakes... but the oil levels are fine; now how do i check the springs? wont it require disassembly? after that how do I know if the springs are fine or not?

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              • #2362
                Originally posted by shivank View Post
                My apologies sir!
                Here it is:
                The shroud meets a minimalist side panel-tailpiece unit that lends the bike a classy, international feel. In theory the air scoops actually channel air more efficiently to cool the engine. It gels perfectly with the angular head lamp that has a parking lamp in the chin that looks absolutely fantastic, beefy front forks, stubby muffler and short tail that mirrors that of the bigger FZ1.


                Braking is not smooth! The front of the bike juddering before coming to halt! Hope that explains the case better..
                Ok the muffler thing, i thought something else.
                Fine that means the FZ is having the muffler in the exhaust.

                Judder indicates uneven pad wear, check the pads.

                Originally posted by shivank View Post

                Any idea of how to solve the squealing sound from the brakes??
                spray super pressure water,(connect a pipe from the motor, attach some small diameter thing in the front) and spray the pads while rotating the whell, this will eliminate the noice.

                Originally posted by pritish View Post
                Buddy...a disc brake works best whn the pads reach an OPTIMUM TEMPERATURE and optimum temperature here means opearting temperature which in this case is neither too hot nor too cold....coz if its too hot they thend to fail called brake fade...thats why TVS claims their petal discs aid better cooling coz they dissipiate the heat better than the conventional ones...and if too cold they will take some time to reach their opearting temperature..i hope i make myself clear now..
                No.
                There is no specefic operating temp for disc and pad both.
                The pads works best when they are cold and their efficiency decreases when their temp rises.
                Petals cools faster than the normal disc which ultimately benefits the pads.
                The Magician"

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                • #2363
                  Originally posted by lijok View Post
                  I have a slight problem like this with my front brakes... but the oil levels are fine; now how do i check the springs? wont it require disassembly? after that how do I know if the springs are fine or not?
                  Yes the whole piston unit needs to be opened to access the springs.
                  The Magician"

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                  • #2364
                    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                    No.
                    There is no specefic operating temp for disc and pad both.

                    Petals cools faster than the normal disc which ultimately benefits the pads.
                    Dude..FYI...

                    Although the braking performance is unrivalled, the use of carbon-fibre brakes requires a little time to get used to for a driver. Jarno Trulli explained: "In fact, during the first milliseconds after pressing the brake-pedal; it feels like nothing is happening. This delay is in fact the length of time required by the disk/caliper tandem to reach operating temperature After that short period, decelleration is immediate, and brutal". When at optimum operation temperature
                    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                    The pads works best when they are cold and their efficiency decreases when their temp rises.
                    No Pads doesnt work best whn they are cold....they work best whn they are brought to their opearting temperature...and efficiency doesnt decrease wid increase in temp. it increases to a certain level..and then it starts decreasing if it crosses the threshold temp..and thats where cooling aids...
                    Last edited by pritish; 04-06-2010, 10:17 PM.
                    Nothing feels better than to gear up and burn some rubber ! ! !

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                    • #2365
                      Originally posted by pritish View Post

                      the use of carbon-fibre brakes
                      And RTR has........

                      CF disc are only used in MOTO gp as far as their use in bike goes.
                      The Magician"

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                      • #2366
                        Can anyone can tell me how to remove the rear fender?
                        Speak Less,Speak Wise!

                        Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity.

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                        • #2367
                          Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                          And RTR has........

                          CF disc are only used in MOTO gp as far as their use in bike goes.
                          CF disc are usually used in racing and other sports cars coz of their light weight...and i agree they have a high Operating Temperature..infact too high...and u have no idea wat these guys do to bring them to their operating temprature (OT)...they literally have to FLOOR their brakes incase of a F1 car during their warm up lap..so as to get the brakes to their OT..so in case of RTR u dont have to jam them atleast to bring it to OT...

                          look OT may vary from material 2 material..but evry disc brake like tyres has their own OT...thats what i am trying to say...
                          Last edited by pritish; 04-06-2010, 10:29 PM.
                          Nothing feels better than to gear up and burn some rubber ! ! !

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                          • #2368
                            Originally posted by pritish View Post
                            CF disc are usually used in racing and other sports cars coz of their light weight...and i agree they have a high Operating Temperature..infact too high...and u have no idea wat these guys do to bring them to their operating temprature (OT)...they literally have to FLOOR their brakes incase of a F1 car during their warm up lap..so as to get the brakes to their OT..so in case of RTR u dont have to jam them atleast to bring it to OT...

                            look OT may vary from material 2 material..but evry disc brake like tyres has their own OT...thats what i am trying to say...
                            OT:

                            The CARBON FIBRE Discs virtually get red hot when they perform and they cool down very quickly too.

                            The MECLAREN MERCEDES SLR and FERRARI ENZO FXX both comes shod with the most amazing Ceremic brakes and you can see them flaming, there are videos at youtube.

                            No.
                            The normal steel disc has no operating temp, the more cooler it is the more better it will perform.
                            Period.
                            Last edited by rennycornelius; 04-06-2010, 10:42 PM. Reason: Wrong info typed!!!!!!!
                            The Magician"

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                            • #2369
                              CF disc are very costly and light catches fire when brakes are applied that is wht you will see red hot disc in an F1 car.even it also happens with ceramic brakes(correct me if I am wrong here).
                              There are titanium disc and many more.I dont think RTR or any other Indian bikes disc requires any OT.because we wont use that at 100mphor 160kmph.because no bike can reach that(Indian Ones).
                              Speak Less,Speak Wise!

                              Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity.

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                              • #2370
                                Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                                OT:

                                The CARBON FIBRE Discs virtually catch flame when they perform and they cool down very quickly too.

                                The MECLAREN MERCEDES SLR and FERRARI ENZO FXX both comes shod with the most amazing CF brakes and you can see them flaming, there are videos at youtube.

                                No.
                                The normal steel disc has no operating temp, the more cooler it is the more better it will perform.
                                Period.
                                Dude..1st of all i have grown up watching these videos..and i am a f1 freak..he he..infact if u come across any new F1 games...u can chk that flaming too...

                                newazz coming to the point of cooling...u have no idea wat it takes for a CFD(Computational Fluid Dynamics) engineer to design a system for efficient brake cooling ! ! !...thay have work their back off to achieve an effective & efficient design which can channel the air flow around the discs to work efficiently...if CF would have cooled down so quckly then...GOD they could have concentrated more on the car body...trust me its one HELL of a job to keep the discs kool and gng....

                                newazzz my theory is working fyn wid me...India is a free country...u can live happily wid ur theory..No offence meant...Ride safe.
                                Last edited by pritish; 04-06-2010, 10:48 PM.
                                Nothing feels better than to gear up and burn some rubber ! ! !

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