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**mpasanthosh** · 02-02-2012, 06:18 PM

@all: Is anyone using joels free flow exhaust? Am planning of getting one for my RTR 180.. Any suggestions?

**Rtrlover83** · 02-02-2012, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

Hi all, Recently I seem to be having a minor problem with my A180. Whenever i accelerate above 4k rpm, the sound changes, more like something is vibrating a lot. I checked for anything loose on the outside & everything looks fine. I doubt that the sound is coming from inside the engine. Have to take it to svc yet. Any of you have noticed anything like this before? My bike has done 6.6k kms. Everything is in stock condition, even the oil is TVS Tru4

I think i had the same problem with my bike. I felt it more when the engine decelerated through 4.5-4.0K Rpm. And this sound started after riding for some time, that is after the engine heats up. I tried a lot of stuff, and finally it vanished after the engine foundation bolts got tightened. The SVC did the job, local Mech could not find the cause. Do keep us posted.

Originally posted by mpasanthosh View Post

@all: Is anyone using joels free flow exhaust? Am planning of getting one for my RTR 180.. Any suggestions?

I'am one of the users of Joel's tuned FFE for RTR 180. Bought it in Oct 2011.
The thing weighs around 3kg only. Plug and Play, no carb tuning required. The already ballistic mid range grunt gets a genuine bump. Ride-ability is increased, especially inside city. Sounds very good and loud. Just bolt the dB cutter for turning the volume down. FE does not get reduced if ridden sanely. Finally, it's your wish to go for it, or not.

**Adarsh_Bk** · 02-02-2012, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

I think i had the same problem with my bike. I felt it more when the engine decelerated through 4.5-4.0K Rpm. And this sound started after riding for some time, that is after the engine heats up. I tried a lot of stuff, and finally it vanished after the engine foundation bolts got tightened. The SVC did the job, local Mech could not find the cause. Do keep us posted.

Thanks a lot. I am having exactly same problem, more noticeable when you decelerate and also after engine is heated up. I will get those bolts tightened and see what happens

. Also regarding Joel's FFE, how much did it cost?? I too would to like to get it, but I am thinking it will void the warranty if i get it now (just 6.6k kms done).

**Rtrlover83** · 02-02-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

Also regarding Joel's FFE, how much did it cost?? I too would to like to get it, but I am thinking it will void the warranty if i get it now (just 6.6k kms done).

For knowing the cost, drop a mail at [email protected]
Joel is prompt to reply

**Rtrlover83** · 02-03-2012, 09:06 AM

a late update guy's.
Clutch cable broke on 24/01 while on my way to office. Had to push the bike to the svc. Couple of days back before it broke with a 'tik' sound, there was too much free play with the lever.

Odo reading on 24th - 13,072
Clutch cable (N9170250) - 126
Labour - 22

Total invoice amount 148 INR inc of taxes.

The good thing is that now it feels nice with the lever action and gears engage more smoothly.

**susheelkumar** · 02-03-2012, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

Thanks a lot. I am having exactly same problem, more noticeable when you decelerate and also after engine is heated up. I will get those bolts tightened and see what happens

. Also regarding Joel's FFE, how much did it cost?? I too would to like to get it, but I am thinking it will void the warranty if i get it now (just 6.6k kms done).

Yes it will void the warranty. Even I'm planning to change once I cross the warranty period. If you are in bangalore you can meet him in person. Me & my friend met him in person & joel explained us what all mods can be done & the power gains you will get. Actually my friend whose is Apache FI has crossed 50k kms. He will be doing the mods shortly.

**Adarsh_Bk** · 02-03-2012, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post

Yes it will void the warranty. Even I'm planning to change once I cross the warranty period. If you are in bangalore you can meet him in person. Me & my friend met him in person & joel explained us what all mods can be done & the power gains you will get. Actually my friend whose is Apache FI has crossed 50k kms. He will be doing the mods shortly.

Thanks for the info. Please do let me know once the mods are done.

**mpasanthosh** · 02-04-2012, 09:32 AM

@rtrlover83: is the exhaust fitted with the k&n or without the k&n..and did you go
for the bs29 carb.

**Drifty** · 02-04-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Whichever oil you apply on the slide will get sucked into the inlet during intake cycle..so it will not help.Try adding 1ml 2T per liter of petrol,for 5 liters of petrol,and see if any improvement is there.....In all CV carbs this chaffing is inevitable, and can be cured only by replacement.

Thanks for your inputs Sir.

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

After completing 8000kms, i've used this oil (10W40 grade). It holds up so well at higher revs. Engine performance is consistent even after long rides. If W40 grade is available, it's a very good choice.

Thanks for updating buddy.I am thinking of switching to Motul 3000T 20W40 mineral as the 10W40 grade will take more time to arrive.

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

a late update guy's.
Clutch cable broke on 24/01 while on my way to office. Had to push the bike to the svc. Couple of days back before it broke with a 'tik' sound, there was too much free play with the lever.
The good thing is that now it feels nice with the lever action and gears engage more smoothly.

Regular cleaning/oiling of clutch cable and choke cable makes the operation more smoother as well as prevents it from rusting.

Originally posted by mpasanthosh View Post

@rtrlover83: is the exhaust fitted with the k&n or without the k&n..and did you go
for the bs29 carb.

AFAIK,RTR180 is already equipped with BS-29 carb!

**Adarsh_Bk** · 02-04-2012, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

I think i had the same problem with my bike. I felt it more when the engine decelerated through 4.5-4.0K Rpm. And this sound started after riding for some time, that is after the engine heats up. I tried a lot of stuff, and finally it vanished after the engine foundation bolts got tightened. The SVC did the job, local Mech could not find the cause. Do keep us posted.

Got those bolts tightened from SVC & now I can rip all the way to red line! Thanks a lot man

**Rtrlover83** · 02-04-2012, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

Got those bolts tightened from SVC & now I can rip all the way to red line! Thanks a lot man

So glad to hear that Bro

@Drifty
Yes, the Motul 3000 4T Plus W40 will be more than enough till you get the W40 grade of 5100 4T.
And thanks for the advice regarding Clutch/Choke cable maintenance. Will try to do that from now on.

**krishnan6015** · 02-05-2012, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by prateekm View Post

I have encountered a minor hiccup, so need your advice on this.

Sometimes, the bike fails to start, no matter how much you press the electric start button or use the kick. Then, only after 50-60 kicks, does the bike start. This occurs randomly and not because of the cold weather. It first happened when I had gone to Mahableshwar on the bike, took me about 20 minutes of kicking to start it. On coming back, I took it to the mechanic and he said, "Spark plug se engine spark catch nahi kar raha hai (The spark plug is not delivering current from the ignition to the combustion chamber)". After he removed the carbon deposited on the spark plug, the problem vanished for about a month. Again, a couple of days back, I started encountering the same problem, so I took it to him to remove the carbon. But even after removing the carbon deposit, I am still having this problem. It occurs suddenly, sometimes I don't encounter it for days together.

What should I do? Is it expected to clean the spark plug every month? Sorry if I have used the wrong terms, I am a noob when it comes to the technicals of a machine.

I too faced a similar problem. Change the battery if needed. After changing the battery to amaron the problem was fixed for me.

**Rtrlover83** · 02-05-2012, 02:42 PM

Bike not starting

Lately while a thumb start, extra weird Knocking sound (loud one, two to three times) is heard before the engine starts. Don't know exactly from where, all i know is that it's coming from below the fuel tank. This was an occasional thing. I don't know if this is natural.

Today while starting, a loud 'Dhap' sound (for the first time) was heard. This one came from below the fuel tank and tank even shook a little

wait, why am i grinning

After that, the engine is not starting at all. I've tried kick starting too. Bike is at my uncles house, around 6kms away.

Guys, kindly share your thoughts.

**vineshp** · 02-05-2012, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

Today while starting, a loud 'Dhap' kind of sound (for the first time) was heard. Even the tank shook a little

, wait, why i'am i grinning

After that, the engine is not starting at all. I've tried kick starting too.

@Drifty/Garry/Others: does the above suggest one-way clutch going kaput?

**Drifty** · 02-05-2012, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

@Drifty
Yes, the Motul 3000 4T Plus W40 will be more than enough till you get the W40 grade of 5100 4T.
And thanks for the advice regarding Clutch/Choke cable maintenance. Will try to do that from now on.

Yup,drained the previous Shell oil and poured the Motul 20W40 oil yesterday.Changed the oil filter too.The new revised MRP of Motul 3100T 20W40 grade=Rs.235

.Current odo reading 11,600kms

Originally posted by vineshp View Post

@Drifty/Garry/Others: does the above suggest one-way clutch going kaput?

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

Today while starting, a loud 'Dhap' kind of sound (for the first time) was heard. Even the tank shook a little

, wait, why i'am i grinning

After that, the engine is not starting at all. I've tried kick starting too. Bike is at my uncles house, around 6kms away.

Guys, kindly share your thoughts.

I have experienced it only once in these 11k kms.From what I have heard the problem was rectified from the 2010 batches.I fear these are the usual signs of the one way clutch going damaged!Get it rectified from the SVC asap.Still not sure its the one way clutch,a rough guess.It can be related to some damage of other internal component too!

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