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**jsg** · 07-27-2012, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Saw a Beast in SVC Yesterday (2012 Apache 160 Black/Green)

Installed Xenon White Light... Digi Console will go blank asap Headlight switched on, current flowing noise from Head of Motorcycle... Battery not taking up the voltage as Xenon got very high voltage as compare to stock one...

So the question Is there any way to install Xenon Light/ White light without any side/bad effect...

if he was so particular about the Xenon's reliability he would have first done a full DC-Mod. Btw, yes. You can increase the charging rate by using more looped coils [like in RTR180 ABS] or by using a diode in the circuit which does the same job [I'm sorry I just don't know much about it

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**shahbaz63** · 07-27-2012, 10:52 PM

So Apache 160 is based on AC ?

And that Means i can deploy Xenon/ Projector without any issue in my 180 abs beast ? Right ?

**jsg** · 07-27-2012, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by vrags View Post

Well, i've been using Motul 7100FS, and it's 3800kms already. I've had it checked two days back and still not so prominent loss in its level. And most importantly, as i had mentioned earlier, it has a very very good reliability, as my oil hasnt yet lost its thickness nor color and still in the very same red color and can easily run for another 1.5-2k kms easily, based on my expert (known to be in business from whopping 12 yrs) mechanic. However, am not very satisfied iwith its performance, or may be my expectations are higher. Either way, I'll switch to shell and compare the difference.

You sure you were using THE motul itself ??

seriously, you are the first person to tell this. Maybe , its the expectations part. Anyways try Shell and do tell us all Ride Safe. Deploy ABS

**prateek2210** · 07-27-2012, 10:54 PM

Discussion on Engine Oil can be directed here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...-oils-545.html

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

So the question Is there any way to install Xenon Light/ White light without any side/bad effect...

I doubt how many watt bulb he has used. If its more than 35w, its bound to happen. The best option is to get the bike DC.

P.S : If you start the engine with the headlight on, you are doing it wrong

**jsg** · 07-27-2012, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

So Apache 160 is based on AC ?

And that Means i can deploy Xenon/ Projector without any issue in my 180 abs beast ? Right ?

You can switch on your display light even when the bike's engine is OFF right? Thats why your bike is DC. So your Xenon light will have it easy. But if the rating is high, IMO you should increase the charging rate. I'm not sure on this part. Maybe someone better than me will throw light on this

Edit: Adding...yes RTR160 RTR180 are AC/DC. RTR180ABS is Full DC.

**vrags** · 07-27-2012, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by jsg View Post

You sure you were using THE motul itself ??

seriously, you are the first person to tell this. Maybe , its the expectations part. Anyways try Shell and do tell us all Ride Safe. Deploy ABS

Yep. Honestly, i do not really see a marginal difference at higher speed on Motul. Hope, it was a genuine pack. Let's see Shell this time..

**jsg** · 07-27-2012, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

P.S : If you start the engine with the headlight on, you are doing it wrong

+1

It's one of the QUICKEST practices ever to get your headlight, especially the 35w halogen screwed

**shahbaz63** · 07-27-2012, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by jsg View Post

+1

It's one of the QUICKEST practices ever to get your headlight, especially the 35w halogen screwed

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Discussion on Engine Oil can be directed here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...-oils-545.html

I doubt how many watt bulb he has used. If its more than 35w, its bound to happen. The best option is to get the bike DC.

P.S : If you start the engine with the headlight on, you are doing it wrong

True !! but he wasn't doing it

Start Engine & then Start Headlight ... that was the procedure...

35W is Threshold ? My Stock Bulb is of 12 W i guess .. Not Sure, that mean i can increase the Voltage (Yellow light only) for better lightening.

**shiwaan** · 07-27-2012, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

True !! but he wasn't doing it

Start Engine & then Start Headlight ... that was the procedure...

35W is Threshold ? My Stock Bulb is of 12 W i guess .. Not Sure, that mean i can increase the Voltage (Yellow light only) for better lightening.

Stock bulb is osram night bikers 35w
In all RTR models

I am running 55/60w phillips crystal vision on my apache 180 ABS classic with no issues

**shahbaz63** · 07-27-2012, 11:19 PM

^ White Light ?

**shiwaan** · 07-27-2012, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

^ White Light ?

No buddy its whitesh yellow its 4300 k bulb its not similar to other bulbs
If u see in comparison to halogen bulbs it will be like white light and when u see in comparison to hid it is yellow

**pcgamer** · 07-27-2012, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post

WOW... you are real lucky....

I have never seen my bike's air/oil filter cleaned,spark plug cleaned, brake fluid changed,etc, even after 6 services... In fact ,I went to get the tappets adjusted y'day & after the quick fix,the dumb mechanic in TVS svc had not connected the petrol pipe to the carb. & when I went for a test ride petrol started flowing out onto the road..So, I went back to the mech. , he shows me the "no care" attitude... This is the condition of TVS svc in B'lore..

Exactly. My bike's air filter has never seen real world after it was fitted at the factory. In fact, all the things stated in your second sentence have been part of my experience too. The only things those idiots do are wash the bike, pour some lubricants. Change the engine oil if required. That's the condition of most of the TVS SVCs in Karnataka, not just BLR. Have heard some bad stories from other states too.

BTW, Which SVC do you visit?

**krrishi** · 07-27-2012, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by jsg View Post

3000 rpm....hmm

AFAIK, its very unusual to get the mis-firings at just a single RPM band. In any case, I feel its either the Ignition system/Air Intake system. So try checking all these and don't forget your spark plug. Also do check for moisture in your air filter. And make sure you are not running lean [just incase

]. TPS: I don't think so. If TPS is in wrong position [anything before the "yellow" line under full throttle in the TPS] you will definitely get to notice a LAG in performance and mileage at almost all speeds.

I have experienced the misfiring(not prominent) cum lag issue at the above mentioned RPM, CLEANED the SPARK PLUG& the TPS , some setting was done on the latter & BANG, both the issues vanished for the good..i was told that cleaning the spark plug took care of the minor misfiring & setting the TPS took care of the lag, altough i do experience the lag occasionally..apart from these two options the ones you have mentioned,also should be taken into consideration.its good in the longer run.

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

you guys underestimate TVS Tru4 very much its not that bad either ...

Trust me Shahbaz, initially even i refused to buy the claims that said TVS tru4 is crap, but now i feel i am running my ride without any oil,the engine becomes so damn hot, my friend who had the 160 went over to petronas(original) FS & then there was no looking back for him,he told me that the bike never felt so rev happy & new.

**krrishi** · 07-28-2012, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by pcgamer View Post

Exactly. My bike's air filter has never seen real world after it was fitted at the factory. In fact, all the things stated in your second sentence have been part of my experience too. The only things those idiots do are wash the bike, pour some lubricants. Change the engine oil if required. That's the condition of most of the TVS SVCs in Karnataka, not just BLR. Have heard some bad stories from other states too.

Well, its the same case here in mumbai.."PATHETIC" is an understatement that can be used to describe these morons, no training, no ettiquette , no hygeine, false egos...you name it,you have it...its just the TVS "uniform" that seperates them from the ordinary mechanics outside TVS,some even skip the uniform & are seen in "Being Human" tees !! Salman Fans i say.

**pcgamer** · 07-28-2012, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by krrishi View Post

Well, its the same case here in mumbai.."PATHETIC" is an understatement that can be used to describe these morons, no training, no ettiquette , no hygeine, false egos...you name it,you have it...its just the TVS "uniform" that seperates them from the ordinary mechanics outside TVS,some even skip the uniform & are seen in "Being Human" tees !! Salman Fans i say.

Ha Ha. Well said

. The servicing should be done only to retain warranty. After that, it's better if it's done by ourselves LOL. They do more harm than help.

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