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**Garry_Menace** · 10-04-2012, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

Wow. If that were to happen, I guess we could all go for a synthetic while keeping warranty! Nice!

good news for people who love their warranty.

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Before that, pray that they don't again come of up with a 10w30 shit

**shahbaz63** · 10-04-2012, 09:56 AM

+1 to below

Bye the way sent a mail to them asking them to have a look with Motul, Shell or Castrol if possible.

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Before that, pray that they don't again come of up with a 10w30 shit

**rocker** · 10-04-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Before that, pray that they don't again come of up with a 10w30 shit

Guyzz I dont know why people call tru4 a shit. This time I changed it after 2100 kms and believe me those 2100 kms were all full throttle sprints. Yesterday when I changed the oil it still had some signs of life in that.

**shahbaz63** · 10-04-2012, 05:11 PM

I've always said that at rs. 250 its a good deal

Originally posted by rocker View Post

Guyzz I dont know why people call tru4 a shit. This time I changed it after 2100 kms and believe me those 2100 kms were all full throttle sprints. Yesterday when I changed the oil it still had some signs of life in that.

**pcgamer** · 10-04-2012, 06:54 PM

@Jsg The rpm speed multiplication factor or whatever it is called is about 13.3 for the final cog. So, at 10k the speed is indeed 133km/h.

**huntphani** · 10-04-2012, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

I've always said that at rs. 250 its a good deal

Guys, last time at a TVS authorised service center i asked them if they use the barrel oil and they said yes. Is the barrel oil they use different from the tru4??

**kantu** · 10-05-2012, 11:22 AM

9th Service done @ 23k kms
Switched back to TVS tru4 premium oil (I told them not to change but they did by mistake

)
Been using Shell since 10k kms and its not worth 600 bucks !!! It looses its charm after 2.5k kms better to run with semi syn oils and change it @ 2.5k kms interval.
Replaced following :
1) Chain set
2) Front Disc pads
3) Spark plug
4) Carb diaphragm

Now with new chains and tru4 oil running as good as new

**madhav766** · 10-05-2012, 01:19 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by kantu View Post

9th Service done @ 23k kms
Switched back to TVS tru4 premium oil (I told them not to change but they did by mistake

)
Been using Shell since 10k kms and its not worth 600 bucks !!! It looses its charm after 2.5k kms better to run with semi syn oils and change it @ 2.5k kms interval.
Replaced following :
1) Chain set
2) Front Disc pads
3) Spark plug
4) Carb diaphragm

Now with new chains and tru4 oil running as good as new

So you feel tru4 is better than shell semi synthetic?? And cost details?

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**shahbaz63** · 10-05-2012, 07:08 PM

How one compares different oil with different price ?

Ask shell to make oil of rs 250 & then say if its better then TVS Tru 4 ?

"The More the sugar the sweeter the tea"

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

So you feel tru4 is better than shell semi synthetic?? And cost details?

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**Garry_Menace** · 10-05-2012, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by rocker View Post

Guyzz I dont know why people call tru4 a shit. This time I changed it after 2100 kms and believe me those 2100 kms were all full throttle sprints. Yesterday when I changed the oil it still had some signs of life in that.

Maybe 'coz the high revving sprints you had were small duration ones. Is it? Or you might have got a Honda or Yamaha engine under the saddle

Believe me bro, I didn't stop using it because of people throwing bad comments on it. If I'd do that, I won't be running on stock rubber especially when I ride almost 100% on Outer Ring Road + NH1

I've experienced the roughness of the engine on my own and then the experience with other oils. I hope you have tried others too. If not, use AX7 this time and see the difference

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

So you feel tru4 is better than shell semi synthetic?? And cost details?

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No! He should've mentioned that he had the bad/unsatisfactory experience with FS oil rather. Know about what we call here as "oil-level-decreasing-syndrome"? Maybe something like that only, if not that.

**madhav766** · 10-05-2012, 10:49 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Maybe 'coz the high revving sprints you had were small duration ones. Is it? Or you might have got a Honda or Yamaha engine under the saddle

Believe me bro, I didn't stop using it because of people throwing bad comments on it. If I'd do that, I won't be running on stock rubber especially when I ride almost 100% on Outer Ring Road + NH1

I've experienced the roughness of the engine on my own and then the experience with other oils. I hope you have tried others too. If not, use AX7 this time and see the difference

No! He should've mentioned that he had the bad/unsatisfactory experience with FS oil rather. Know about what we call here as "oil-level-decreasing-syndrome"? Maybe something like that only, if not that.

Guys is there a thread on how different oils effect an engine? I would like to know details.

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**rocker** · 10-05-2012, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Maybe 'coz the high revving sprints you had were small duration ones. Is it? Or you might have got a Honda or Yamaha engine under the saddle

Believe me bro, I didn't stop using it because of people throwing bad comments on it. If I'd do that, I won't be running on stock rubber especially when I ride almost 100% on Outer Ring Road + NH1

I've experienced the roughness of the engine on my own and then the experience with other oils. I hope you have tried others too. If not, use AX7 this time and see the difference

Garry G, for your kind info 900 kms were part of multiple 120 kms rides on Faridabad-Gurgaon highway and 1200 kms were my non-stop ride to Kasol and back. I think its not too bad. Throttle was pinned all the time

. But I would really like to use AX7 bcz of its praise, you just tell me how smooth the engine runs with AX7 in comparison of Tru4?

**Garry_Menace** · 10-05-2012, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by rocker View Post

Garry G, for your kind info 900 kms were part of multiple 120 kms rides on Faridabad-Gurgaon highway and 1200 kms were my non-stop ride to Kasol and back. I think its not too bad. Throttle was pinned all the time

. But I would really like to use AX7 bcz of its praise, you just tell me how smooth the engine runs with AX7 in comparison of Tru4?

Sorry but you still didn't add anything new to my "kind" info

Though you reminded me that thing

And I guess I know you well enough to guess the bold part

Anyways, jokes apart! It may not have been felt bad before using better oils. Even I rode with TRU4 for almost 2 years, including 2 roadtrips and numerous NH1 rides. It didn't bug me much, but if I get something AX7 after paying some 50 odd INR more than TRU4, then I won't go for TRU4 again except some exceptional situations. And and and, don't go for AX7 "for all these praises"(with quite high expectations). I did that, and I didn't find it THAT good. Next time I didn't have that much high expectations, but then it made me smile "considering its price". Expecting Honda-like smoothness by changing an engine oil, that too a low costing one, ain't legit but Its quite evident that its good more than enough to get away from TRU4.

**rocker** · 10-06-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Sorry but you still didn't add anything new to my "kind" info

Though you reminded me that thing

And I guess I know you well enough to guess the bold part

Anyways, jokes apart! It may not have been felt bad before using better oils. Even I rode with TRU4 for almost 2 years, including 2 roadtrips and numerous NH1 rides. It didn't bug me much, but if I get something AX7 after paying some 50 odd INR more than TRU4, then I won't go for TRU4 again except some exceptional situations. And and and, don't go for AX7 "for all these praises"(with quite high expectations). I did that, and I didn't find it THAT good. Next time I didn't have that much high expectations, but then it made me smile "considering its price". Expecting Honda-like smoothness by changing an engine oil, that too a low costing one, ain't legit but Its quite evident that its good more than enough to get away from TRU4.

From where to get AX7 in Delhi bro?

**Garry_Menace** · 10-06-2012, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by rocker View Post

From where to get AX7 in Delhi bro?

I simply went to a local mechanic in my area and asked him about it. He didn't have but ordered one carton of it and I got the oil after 2 days

BTW, for you, just go to any good mechanic or spare part shop bro. I've seen that many of them have the Shell Advanced "VSX", which is the same AX7 only. Actually AX7 is the new name given to VSX (which was for 2-strokers also I guess). So you can use VSX also

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