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  • guys today i fell it was my fault overspeeding. bikes front faring white portion is broken ,how much it will charge to replace it. dose any body has any idea!.....
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    • Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
      guys today i fell it was my fault overspeeding. bikes front faring white portion is broken ,how much it will charge to replace it. dose any body has any idea!.....
      [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/AmeyA/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]Hey Ride Safe

      today i got something there is a hole in exhaust pipe
      want to recheck with u guys is the same in yours?
      what does it do?
      Kinetic Honda (2stroke Owner "My Uncle") 1988 - SOLD Sep. 2010
      TVS-SUZUKI SHOGUN 1996- SOLD 5.Aug.2012
      TVS APACHE RTR 180- SOLD 28.Aug.2012
      TVS STAR CITY Present- 5.Sep.2012
      TVS SCOOTY PEP+ SOLD March 2015
      Royal Enfield Classic 500 TAN
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      • Originally posted by ameyashogun View Post
        [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/AmeyA/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]Hey Ride Safe

        today i got something there is a hole in exhaust pipe
        want to recheck with u guys is the same in yours?
        what does it do?
        that hole is in every rtr .when first i saw it i start thinking it is broken by some stone or something.it release air but at my first service when i ask the guy he told me it is common in rtr .
        i think it work for ie surge
        IE surge – Intake Exhaust Resonator:
        which is fitted in exhaust

        take a look at that
        http://www.********/straightfrmthehe...-surge…/
        Last edited by abhishekch; 06-06-2010, 07:38 PM.
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        • Originally posted by ameyashogun View Post
          today i got something there is a hole in exhaust pipe
          want to recheck with u guys is the same in yours?
          what does it do?
          It's just there to drain the water or oil if it goes or put in there.
          it serves no purpoes other than that.
          The Magician"

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          • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
            The low on the pressure suealing was happened accidently as i forgot when i checked the pressure of the tyre and i think after the 2-3 days of the suealing when i went to the air pump for the refill i came to know i was too low on the pressure, then to check the suealing again i tried the hard on the brakes method on the properly filled tyres and they suealed again.

            Yes running on low pressure makes the front tad heavy but, but i havent noticed any diff from the rear (the max i dropped one time was at 18 and at that point you can hear a tyre noice while leaning inside your helmet too)

            to the camparo point!!!
            MRF Q beats the crap outta TVS, that tyre gave me loads of confidence in my FIERO which had a scary front end (i had FS at front in it 80/90 though that was a rear tyre and it wasn't wise to put a rear tyre to the front) the FIERO's rear suspension was scary around the corner and used to give rebound effect still after switching to the ZAPPERS my confidence level was very high and in those tires i scrapped the FIERO's peg which is impossible to do with TVS tires without kissing the tarmac.

            I think even CEAT will beat the TVS around corners, and a CEAT guy on RTR will post much better timing on the track than the TVS one.

            TVS never use the TVS tyre on the track RTR's!!!!!!!!
            This shows how good their product around corner is, and remember they have one of the best guys behind the handles.




            Changing gears while in lean should be avoided, but i tried it once in RTR, from 3 to 2, blipping the throttle much more than needed with half clutch, that resulted in nil engine braking thus the lockup, but still the rear fishtailed, and the road was tar and complete dry.

            The front also will also skid away badly if you'll aggressively change the direction, mainly happens when one lean ends and other starts with very little patch of straight raod in between, when you get out from the croutched position for a sec, then croutch again to that "weight on the forward" postion and prepare for a lean again (left ended and right started or vice versa), you can feel and virtually see the front going away from the line, it's $hitty scary when you'll do it at 60-65kmph, again courtsey the tires.

            The TVS tires are at their limits the moment you tilt your bike even to 5 degrees of an angle, i bet there's no one at this thread who leaned/danced around the corners on RTR with complete peace of mind and never experienced FISHTAILING/TAIL SLIDING/REAR STEPPING OUT/FRONT SLIDING/HARD BRAKING SQUEALING/FRONT STEPPING OUT.

            P.S:
            It was sad to hear ROSSI fall and injuring himself.
            Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
            guys today i fell it was my fault overspeeding. bikes front faring white portion is broken ,how much it will charge to replace it. dose any body has any idea!.....
            @abhishekch. only headlamp housing will cost you around 650-700.

            @renny: TVS racing team uses zapper c 3.00-17 on pro kit race bikes and i think 100-90 zapper c on rear.
            There's lot to it other than saddle....


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            • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
              TVS racing team uses zapper c 3.00-17 on pro kit race bikes and i think 100-90 zapper c on rear.
              Please tell me you're talking about the 100/90 zapper-c in 17" because i've been looking like anything but there seems to be nothing in 18" above 3.00". Even a 90/90 would do for the for the rear. And 3" is less than 90mm, why do they downsize for the front?

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              • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                Please tell me you're talking about the 100/90 zapper-c in 17" because i've been looking like anything but there seems to be nothing in 18" above 3.00". Even a 90/90 would do for the for the rear. And 3" is less than 90mm, why do they downsize for the front?
                You forgot the zapper Q....
                The Magician"

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                • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                  On a straight stretch of wet road one can do 120kmph on TVS tires all day long, they do aquaplaning quite good, they'll perform good, will inspire confidence but the moment you'll lean your bike a little they'll show you their true colors.[/FONT][/COLOR]
                  Agreed. Like i said play it safe while things are wet.TVS tyres do give up early when things are wet as compared to the Zappers.

                  Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

                  TVS never use the TVS tyre on the track RTR's!!!!!!!!
                  They did.Until R15 arrived.They have been winning races since Victor/Fiero days using those ordinary tyres only.

                  Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                  The TVS tires are at their limits the moment you tilt your bike even to 5 degrees of an angle, i bet there's no one at this thread who leaned/danced around the corners on RTR with complete peace of mind and never experienced FISHTAILING/TAIL SLIDING/REAR STEPPING OUT/FRONT SLIDING/HARD BRAKING SQUEALING/FRONT STEPPING OUT.
                  Make that any bike.That could happen to any rider in this world no matter what bike he rides.A particular stretch ahead of you would never be similar to one you just left behind.Unless the rider is not riding enough!!

                  Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

                  I'm not very sure about this, but wouldn't squealing under braking mean that the tyre is actually slightly skidding over the road surface? If it was only braking it would do it quietly. Think about it, the noise a car makes when braking hard, and then the amount of noise it makes when it's skidding, like when you hit the handbrake and the wheels lock. My understanding is that a squealing tyre means the tyre is being overwhelmed by the brake which is desperately asking for a grippier tyre.

                  A good rider rides by feel, and you can feel the feedback from the tyres before they actually begin to lose traction and slide.
                  +1

                  And a better rider well acquainted with the tyres will always know in before hand how the tyre will feel/respond on the terrain.It is this congruence which should be there in between the ride and the rider but at sometimes $hit happens when this communication is broken or when you are not paying much attention or something is inevitable/uncontrollable.

                  Going by what RTR owners feel about the performance of TVS Tyres.I wonder about the plight of the lakhs of poor souls who buy 100-125cc bikes fitted with TVS tyres.If the tyre compounds are anything to go by,then those will be much worser.And there should be thousands of consumer court cases slapped on TVS, by now.

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                  • Today i went to the TVS svc to ask a mechanic whether the rear sprocket of RTR160 will be a direct fit for the RTR180. He said it might, it might not. I have to experiment. I have a to buy a full chain and sprocket set of RTR160 and try it out on my bike. If it doesnt fit my money is wasted. Can anyone confirm me on this?
                    You can only ride better tomorrow if you ride safe today.

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                    • Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                      Today i went to the TVS svc to ask a mechanic whether the rear sprocket of RTR160 will be a direct fit for the RTR180. He said it might, it might not. I have to experiment. I have a to buy a full chain and sprocket set of RTR160 and try it out on my bike. If it doesnt fit my money is wasted. Can anyone confirm me on this?
                      I am not sure whether those are direct fit on the 180 or not.Also i have read somewhere that the the existing ones on the 180 is not a direct fit on the 160s.Why are you buying the whole set.You will be in loss.Even the length of the chain itself is different(longer).

                      Try this website out in calculating the speed change at different rpms after sprocket change.

                      Gearing Commander: Motorcycle Gear Ratio Calculator for Sprockets RPM Speed Chain

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                      • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                        You forgot the zapper Q....
                        I meant i was looking for the C in 90/90 or 100/90 18" and found it doesn't exist. That's why what nox said shocked me if he meant 100/90 in 18".

                        Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                        Going by what RTR owners feel about the performance of TVS Tyres.I wonder about the plight of the lakhs of poor souls who buy 100-125cc bikes fitted with TVS tyres.If the tyre compounds are anything to go by,then those will be much worser.And there should be thousands of consumer court cases slapped on TVS, by now.
                        Well, it just means that the typical indian attitude of chalta hain is well prevalent and people just accept whatever crap they get. The ones who know better change the damn tyres! I've mentioned earlier about an accident i had which were due to crappy tvs tyres on my boxer. Well, my fault was that i was going too fast around a corner for those tyres. My point is, the previous set of tyres and the next set which i added after the crash let me do those high speed corners with no problems like the tvs ones. I think this explains my longstanding hatred of tvs tyres. And of AJD for calling them the best indian tyres in his review of the victor in OD.

                        Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                        Today i went to the TVS svc to ask a mechanic whether the rear sprocket of RTR160 will be a direct fit for the RTR180. He said it might, it might not. I have to experiment. I have a to buy a full chain and sprocket set of RTR160 and try it out on my bike. If it doesnt fit my money is wasted. Can anyone confirm me on this?
                        I have never visited an ASC as much as i have the TVS one. Reason is i'm dead scared of a fuel pump or ecu or some other costly Fi related failure and not getting it in warranty. All my other bikes, i used to barely visit the ASC, instead get my bikes fixed from mech whom i knew were experienced and trusted. WHat i'm saying is, for spares and such, rather than the ASC, go to a good store which stocks a good collection of parts. In most cases, if you have a good rapport with the dudes, they will even take back the product if you can't use it if you haven't broken any major packaging. The negative side to this story is that even the ASCs in my area barely have all the parts, the parts stores have it much harder with TVS parts. I had broken my chain cover, the ASC said something like 650, i got a very acceptable fake for like 120-150. I could see a moulding mark on close examination but it was totally fine with me.

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                        • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                          And of AJD for calling them the best indian tyres in his review of the victor in OD.
                          Which one/rating?

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                          • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                            They did.Until R15 arrived.They have been winning races since Victor/Fiero days using those ordinary tyres only.
                            Well that was a news to me..
                            I never knew that TVS raced the RTR with the exact same tyres, they sport when they are handed to us customers.

                            Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                            Make that any bike.That could happen to any rider in this world no matter what bike he rides.A particular stretch ahead of you would never be similar to one you just left behind.Unless the rider is not riding enough!!
                            NO....!!!!!!

                            Add "witout the TVS tyres" to the above sentence.

                            Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                            Today i went to the TVS svc to ask a mechanic whether the rear sprocket of RTR160 will be a direct fit for the RTR180. He said it might, it might not. I have to experiment. I have a to buy a full chain and sprocket set of RTR160 and try it out on my bike. If it doesnt fit my money is wasted. Can anyone confirm me on this?
                            The sproaket will be direct fit.
                            I dont think TVS changed the entire housing of the front and rear sproaket, they're just the same,with 180 having slightly longer chain(having 4 more rollers i think).

                            Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                            I meant i was looking for the C in 90/90 or 100/90 18" and found it doesn't exist. That's why what nox said shocked me if he meant 100/90 in 18"..
                            Well i'am interested in 110/70 or 100/60 tires, but i dont think the size is available with that profile.
                            Last edited by rennycornelius; 06-07-2010, 04:56 PM.
                            The Magician"

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                            • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                              I am not sure whether those are direct fit on the 180 or not.Also i have read somewhere that the the existing ones on the 180 is not a direct fit on the 160s.Why are you buying the whole set.You will be in loss.Even the length of the chain itself is different(longer).

                              Try this website out in calculating the speed change at different rpms after sprocket change.

                              Gearing Commander: Motorcycle Gear Ratio Calculator for Sprockets RPM Speed Chain
                              They dont sell just the rear sprocket as a single unit. I have to take the whole set.

                              Whats the primary drive ratio, final drive ratio front/rear, chain pitch and chain links for the 180?

                              Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                              The sproaket will be direct fit.
                              I dont think TVS changed the entire housing of the front and rear sproaket, they're just the same,with 180 having slightly longer chain(having 4 more rollers i think).
                              So will the 180's chain be compatible with the 160's rear sprocket?
                              You can only ride better tomorrow if you ride safe today.

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                              • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                                NO....!!!!!!

                                Add "witout the TVS tyres" to the above sentence.
                                Do you think that fitting a Michelin/Pirelli on a RTR would make the bike skid-proof and defy the laws of gravity..C'mon even the doctor fell!!

                                PS:Even i am in the lookout for better tyre.Waiting for the ones from Dazzler to be out in the market.And the list never ends.Even after that i will be in lookout for something better.

                                @guitarfreak

                                Gear Ratios of the 180
                                1st gear:2.917
                                2nd gear:1.857
                                3rd gear:1.333
                                4th gear:1.050
                                5th gear:0.880
                                Primary Reduction:3.095
                                Final Reduction:3.286
                                Chain Assembly length:130L

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