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  • #9571
    Originally posted by Drifty View Post
    WISHING YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!!!

    Have you adjusted the tappets before this?If the tappets are tight,the top end reduces.Check out the top end now and revert back.
    Motul oil of what grade?And please stick to the Bosch twin electrode spark plug for peace of mind.
    Wish you the same Drifty!

    No i havent tried anything on the engine yet apart from chain lub and oil change I wont be doing the tappets on my own. I need to find a good mech for that! Yeah my Sev Engg did tell me that the tappets were a bit tighter. I need to go test the top end and will report back

    Thanks all for the response.
    It's always better to lose a second in life than to lose life in a second!

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    • #9572
      Originally posted by nisnth View Post
      Thanks for the reply Utkarsh. Engine Oil(Motul 7100 FS), tyre pressure, brakes and pads, tuning and spark plugs are all fine fine. I know atleast these stuff and regularly check! Yeah i will be getting the Iridium spark plugs soon.

      Yes, I have checked and rechecked the top speed in various different roads. I've tried the full crouch too and nothing changed!

      The Svc Engg that I deal with is very keen on resolving my issues and he doesnt even charge me for the regular visits I pay to the Svc center! Yeah I do have Drifty's DIY saved but scared to try it on my own I now need to find a good mech near my place. If the valve clearance is fine, i guess the only part at fault will be the plates!
      Welcum, if the above mention stuff is good, then the only culprit can be valve clearence and clutch plates. check on this. Use drifty's D.I.Y as a reference for the mechanic. Btw get ur compression checked from the svc in PSI and post it here to check whether it is normal or not. And please stick to stock plugs, i have tested both NGK and Bosch Iridium, it increases throttle response by max 0.2-0.4 % and i find it useless for the extra money paid.

      Originally posted by Drifty View Post
      WISHING YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!!!

      BTW,anyone know the cost of the main jet of RTR180?
      Same to u Bro. And cost of the main jet for RTR180 is INR 45/- here . It is generally bot available at the svc's but u can get it with local shops or maybe TVS parts stockists in ur area.
      STUNTING IS IN MY DNA

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      • #9573
        Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
        Welcum, if the above mention stuff is good, then the only culprit can be valve clearence and clutch plates. check on this. Use drifty's D.I.Y as a reference for the mechanic. Btw get ur compression checked from the svc in PSI and post it here to check whether it is normal or not. And please stick to stock plugs, i have tested both NGK and Bosch Iridium, it increases throttle response by max 0.2-0.4 % and i find it useless for the extra money paid.

        Okay will do that! Now how did you measure the 0.4% throttle response increase ???
        It's always better to lose a second in life than to lose life in a second!

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        • #9574
          Originally posted by nisnth View Post
          Okay will do that! Now how did you measure the 0.4% throttle response increase ???
          now thats an approximate value and was just used to show that the increase is not significant and u will not be able to feel any kind of extra sure by shelling 550 bucks from ur pocket.
          STUNTING IS IN MY DNA

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          • #9575
            Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
            now thats an approximate value and was just used to show that the increase is not significant and u will not be able to feel any kind of extra sure by shelling 550 bucks from ur pocket.

            Got it !
            It's always better to lose a second in life than to lose life in a second!

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            • #9576
              @utkarsh


              How does the R15 rear tyre lessen the speedo error?Enlighten me to this.I know nothing about this...

              You values and mine differ Slightly

              4k-54
              5k-69
              6k-84
              7k-97
              8k-113
              9k-121


              Could be because you are bulkier though

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              • #9577
                Originally posted by nisnth View Post
                The rattling might be from the chain cover. It tends to get loose now and then in my bike.
                Thank's for the suggestion mate

                Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                Then replace it.Mine is broken too since a few months but I hardly use the choke so haven't replaced it yet.Cost INR120

                The rear fender bolt at the centre might be loose.
                Choke cable assembly was broken, now replaced. Took some time for the SVC guy's to do the job. Now, the lever action is very smooth too (it was pretty hard to operate before it finally broke).

                Bracket fender top was broken. Replaced it. Rattling is gone.

                Cost of the two parts replaced - 101.
                Labour charge - 66.

                Invoice total - INR167 (incl of taxes).
                Last edited by Rtrlover83; 01-04-2012, 08:15 PM. Reason: typing error
                The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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                • #9578
                  Originally posted by deception View Post
                  @utkarsh


                  How does the R15 rear tyre lessen the speedo error?Enlighten me to this.I know nothing about this...

                  You values and mine differ Slightly

                  4k-54
                  5k-69
                  6k-84
                  7k-97
                  8k-113
                  9k-121


                  Could be because you are bulkier though
                  AFAIK changing rear tyre of different profile than the stock will alter gearing,its same like changing sprockets.Thus speed will vary for the rpm because of altered gearing.
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                  • #9579
                    Originally posted by deception View Post
                    @utkarsh


                    How does the R15 rear tyre lessen the speedo error?Enlighten me to this.I know nothing about this...

                    You values and mine differ Slightly

                    4k-54
                    5k-69
                    6k-84
                    7k-97
                    8k-113
                    9k-121


                    Could be because you are bulkier though
                    yes, ur speedo and my speedo readings show that my speedo has less error.

                    For the tyre thing. A shorter tyre profile on the rear, makes the bike a bit raised at the front and the gearings gets affected by a short margin, so the speedo errors get a bit less. And on the contrary is u use a shorter profile tyre on the front, the speedo error will increase. Refer to sprockets universal thread for more details
                    STUNTING IS IN MY DNA

                    BIG BORE KIT FOR RTR 180
                    PORTED HEAD ON APACHE RTR 180
                    D.I.Y ON OIL CHANGE FOR APACHE RTR
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                    • #9580
                      Originally posted by Drifty View Post

                      BTW,anyone know the cost of the main jet of RTR180?
                      INR 89 here in Trivandrum, from TVS, OEM


                      Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post
                      Thank's for the suggestion mate



                      Choke cable assembly was broken, now replaced. Took some time for the SVC guy's to do the job. Now, the lever action is very smooth too (it was pretty hard to operate before it finally broke).

                      Bracket fender top was broken. Replaced it. Rattling is gone.

                      Cost of the two parts replaced - 101.
                      Labour charge - 66.

                      Invoice total - INR167 (incl of taxes).
                      Guess you missed a post from me a few weeks back. I had this issue for a long long long time and no one knew why.. finally while replacing the rear side panels, I myself found it, and replaced...

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                      • #9581
                        Originally posted by lijok View Post
                        INR 89 here in Trivandrum, from TVS, OEM




                        Guess you missed a post from me a few weeks back. I had this issue for a long long long time and no one knew why.. finally while replacing the rear side panels, I myself found it, and replaced...
                        It was a small metal part (kinda holder or something) and costed you 24 INR, eh?



                        @Utkarsh... Man, if you feel like joining us back on that FB group, you're welcome back there. Those were some bad moments. Hope the grudges got faded with time and year.
                        Last edited by Garry_Menace; 01-05-2012, 06:27 AM.
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                        • #9582
                          Originally posted by lijok View Post
                          Guess you missed a post from me a few weeks back. I had this issue for a long long long time and no one knew why.. finally while replacing the rear side panels, I myself found it, and replaced...
                          Yeah i remember that post along with pictures. But anyway i can't do the job myself, and pretty sure will mess up so went to the SVC. Thanks Bro.
                          The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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                          • #9583
                            Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post
                            @Utkarsh... Man, if you feel like joining us back on that FB group, you're welcome back there. Those were some bad moments. Hope the grudges got faded with time and year.
                            oh..! The grudges had faded a long time ago bro, i even dont re member with whom i had a nasty argument. Yup the bad moments are gone , hoping wont come anytime soon. Will surely join the group once i activate fb, which is deactivated since the last 2 months.

                            Cheers...!!
                            STUNTING IS IN MY DNA

                            BIG BORE KIT FOR RTR 180
                            PORTED HEAD ON APACHE RTR 180
                            D.I.Y ON OIL CHANGE FOR APACHE RTR
                            SPARE PARTS CATALOUGE FOR RTR 180

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                            • #9584
                              Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post
                              It was a small metal part (kinda holder or something) and costed you 24 INR, eh?
                              yeah... and I had to find it our myself... since I think 3rd service or something I had this issue and been telling those fools at SVC, they say all RTRs are like this...as usual...
                              This metal part takes a lot of stress I think and could break easily if not good quality. I think I found a small difference in thickness of the broken one and the new one I got as replacement, new one being thicker... maybe just my feeling as I had nothing to measure it and all...
                              Anyway, this is one thing to check out for if you have some strange noise from the rear and/or if your rear fender is vibrating like crazy...

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                              • #9585
                                Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
                                Same to u Bro. And cost of the main jet for RTR180 is INR 45/- here . It is generally bot available at the svc's but u can get it with local shops or maybe TVS parts stockists in ur area.
                                Originally posted by lijok View Post
                                INR 89 here in Trivandrum, from TVS, OEM
                                Ok thanks guys,so its in the range of 50-100 bucks.

                                EDIT:The Suzuki GS150R air filter is a direct fit in our air filter box,tried it yesterday,the mounting bolts matches perfectly,no modification needed.Just you need to remove the top cap so that the side panel fits properly.Its a viscous paper type air filter and will need replacement every 10-12k kms according to GS150R manual.Cost around 200 bucks.
                                BTW,most important thing,the throttle response is much much crispier with this filter!!!
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                                Last edited by Drifty; 01-05-2012, 04:26 PM.

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