Identify waterlogged bearing - Another problem solved !

Sibun , you do remember that pesky thin spring thingy that accidentally slipped out from underside of that oil-seal last service I did ?



I could not slip it back in then despite all effort . And that seal cannot be removed from seat , it has to be broken off to replace .
I tried all shops , ASC and the HH authorised WB parts dealer (after you gave me the part number for that seal) . But alas it was no where to be found ! I was getting frustrated so you asked me to put everything back together without the spring ... nothing will happen . To keep the bike in service I just fitted all back , that seal without the spring and ran on like that . But like you , I was also apprehensive that monsoon water may leak in , or grease/oil may leak out from speedo-gear area into the brake area . This seal is the barrier between those two places and that spring keeps it taut and snugly kissed on the wheel's axle hole .
This is why I serviced the brakes so urgently this time just after monsoon, I love riding a lot in the rain . And sure enough - just on opening the front hub , I noticed the muddy grease & rust on that bearing , see ?



This means that this bearing has seen water (going by my experience at least) .




This is how a bearing that is functioning perfectly looks from outside ...



Rust and soggy grease in there too ...



Luckily, the rust was really just on these two thin steel shims that go under the blue plastic speedo gear ...



And the rest cleaned up real well inside there .. no damage I can see here ?



Ok , then I must take off the suspected bearing's seal (with thin jeweler's driver) , and this ...



Grease is gone bad from water entry . Left like this, this bearing is likely to soon fail .

when something like this happens , you gotta check the bearing on the other side of the axle too ...



popped this seal with flat screwdriver ...



and the bearing's own seal again with the jeweler's driver ...



This is what a good working bearing's grease looks like , clean,consistent,translucent and formed into a nice ring .. OK .

Now I did have a spare set of FAG bearings this size but I don't have the long draft or awl needed to drive out bearings from the hub , so replacement is not possible today . So I popped the seal back on the good one and cleaned out the faulty one by poking out as much as possible with the thin jeweler's driver , bit by bit , and wiping it off the blade every time - laborious job not worth it . Would have replaced - only if that darned mechanic had not switched off his phone too .



Found that if you turn the bearing with inserted finger during this , more stuff will come out by the churning of the balls .



Then I put a few drops of kerosene in there and tried to clean out the now liquidated old grease, dirt & moisture with cotton ear buds and cloth . Then I blow dried it well with hair dryer, to get rid of any residual kerosene or moisture .



There , that's clean enough, no ?



Then I well stuffed in fresh grease in there with small screwdriver .



And you would not believe the damned thing . I still had that thin spring that had parted from the seal . This time I tried again with large flat screwdriver blade and it somehow slipped back into place underneath the seal in two tries !!!!!***##@@@

Put everything back together , hopefully it holds !

My nightmare experience!

@ sibun
Today i saw a nightmare that i've drive come to your house, have meet with u, your father mother & family.
We were talking, u asked me how was your journey and all your father asked me where do u live & what u do...
I told u to show your joy and u said wait first get fresh and we had 'nasta pani' then instead of showing your bike, u said to me just wait out there i'm coming. And i saw that u went straight to your garage and took out the bike and came to me and told to 'sit back'.
I asked why? U said 'chal ghum k aate hai'
then we went just a half km away that u got a call from your home to come back, u were told to get something from market
Then I didn't remember what happened next as i woke up & realized oh it was a nightmare!

@all
From the day when i'm attracted towards my bike more i also saw some bad nightmares of my bike
Firstly, that i parked my bike to went to market and when came back it was no where & stolen. My heartbeat gradually increased & suddenly i woke up and realized its a nightmare.

Secondly, saw went to a market for some work and when came back to my bike after 2 hrs i saw some thief's have stolen some of my bike parts like tyre, head light, petrol and tank has been bend by hitting stone and all... seat has been cut all around and foam was out.....this was not enough third one was more deadly happened....

I saw my younger bro took my bike for some of his work. I was at home, after 10 mins i got a call that it has been accident ed and got like heart attack damage to my bike...suddenly i went out and took the auto to reach the destination. My father was at his office nearby so he arrived earlier and took my bro to the hospital. I reached and saw, for the first few seconds I was like stunned & started crying badly inside...fork, rim, frame got extremely bend, no head light, no meter console & there was no tyre in the front (like suddenly disappeared). It directly hurt to my heart and i cant explain how i feel. I still remember that movement when i saw my bike. More of my family members arrived there and everyone in my family was trying me to cool down (especially my mom as she know how i care for my bike) but after 15-20 min i told in my mind, 'this cannot be happen, its not true, i asked my mom tell me its not true, i think its a nightmare'...i was deeply sleeping and started forcing my eyes to open it. Sounds crazy but this really happens with everyone at least for a one time u might remember.

I woke up looked around and my heart rate calmed down. Then & there, i went straight to my bike to see its all fine. Oh my god, i said thank god its was just a dream. I touched it and feel good.

I think this happens when u truly love something deeply and really care for it.
This is not just a story it also shows one's feeling, caring, sympathy towards their machine.

Anyway,
now its your turn to come to my house!!
So when u are coming??

God forbid that nothing like that happens but if it turns out to be true then look for your brother.You will get thousands of machines but not your brother.
I am quite surprised that instead of thinking about your younger brother,the only thing that comes to your mind is YOUR BIKE.
I can understand what a bike means to a true biker but your first priority should have been your brother.Its your dream and who I am I tell you anything ?

Off late Sibun seems to come into everyone's dream these days.

Enough of Off topic,next time you open your engine's head check for the washers.

Now where is he ?

LOL


Yes , I am also apprehensive what is happening in there without those valve-spring washers .

U know i written one thing that "My father was at his office nearby so he arrived earlier and took my bro to the hospital."
I come to know about this when i reached there and ask my mom about my brother. I forgot to mention, i ask where is he? She told your dad took to the hospital, and how is he? She's told he is fine.
And it was just a nightmare man, every thing happened all of a sudden that u cant remember everything. for example do u remembered what u've seen last 3 days ago? no!

Actually this happened about a month ago. So when he came here at durga puja. I told him not to drive speed. and nothing happen anything like that except my handle was out of align. I asked him where do u hit the bike. First he said nowhere. I said, i know u hit it, tell me where? Then he said he hit a stone on a road by mistake. These small type of things happened every time he come here.
U dont know he really abuse my bike, my friends have seen as told me that have seen driving like a pulsar. I've seen revving hard when he cold start the bike. So this time, i told him not to rev hard and speed drive in cold engine until and unless its get hot. Sometimes he also triple ride it and give my bike to his friends to ride (I've seen). I told him to pls not to do that it really hurts me. U drive your own but dont give to others. I dont know whether he follows these or not.
Anyway,
from triple ride i want to know...does this effect the compression rings?
Suppose if u only go just a one km on triple?
I don't drive triple !never!

Edit:
who? sibun? how do i know!

Why are you anxious? U haven't opened your head. Did u?

I think it is a very common mistake to misplace that washer.Usually it is stuck to the head and one cannot identify if there is a washer or not.

I was expecting a post from Sibun which lists out the common mistakes done by first timers.Please post if you can so that it will help all of us.

I am listing out All the washers used in this engine.
1.A washer goes on the main drive counter shaft bearing-1st gear
2.At the end of counter-shaft before the bearing of right crankcase.
3.At the non-ratcheting end of the kick lever towards the right crankcase.
4.Below the clutch bell
5.Below clutch center nut and rotor.
6.Below magneto's nut.
7.Below exhaust and intake valve springs
8.below the rocker cover main bolts.

I may have left some,will add as soon as I remember .Please feel free to add more.

below the rocker cover main bolts.
U mean rocker arm? A tappet cover? or something else?

The main cover/holding plate which holds the head.Rocker cover(rectangle)
Note- Out of the four washers, one is copper washer which goes on the lower left engine stud.

That is known as top cover. I didn't know about that copper washer. All was seems to be look same. I mixed up! lol!

Top cover(rocker cover),round cover(timing chain sprocket cover) and side cover(rocker pin/oil channel cover).

No problem tripling or loading up the bike , I do that all the time for years n years . I get all the monthly grocery from the nearby Spencer outlet and that evening I have about 40+ kg of stuff tied to it in various ways other than my domestic-help . But tripling is illegal and unsafe ... just that , I'll do that only when I really have to .. and then I ride very slow and cautiously . But I don't believe the Splendor's engine would be harmed in anyway by excess load even ... it's bulletproof .
Nah , I have not opened engine parts yet on this bike , and never on any bike by myself . I have seen them do it at the yamaha ASC (most of my early bikes were yamaha) and local mechanics here do that all the time on the footpath dirt too . There is this 3-wheeler mechanic who does engine work (those auto-rickshaws need full engine work every 2 months) just opposite my office and I go to watch him work sometimes during lunch etc . I am trying to learn it up , and when the time comes that this bike needs it ... I'll go DIY on it's engine too . So you already have the experience on this , and I am very much a student yet .

Your list is more than I remember myself ... moreover I dunno much about this particular engine's internals ... time has not come to know it yet .

Hmm...show off haan? just kidding. I know u know more than me!

You and + 40 kg means only 2 people double ride right? I too gets stuffs from market. When me & my mom go to buy rashan for whole month, then we had two satchel bag that would be of weight 40-50 kg of both + my mom weight. And thats put enough weight on bike which makes equals to 3 peoples ride.

hahahaha lol on that rickshaws, its so funny needs full engine work every 2 months lol

good learn it up. No you are not a student. I've just only head decarbonized it. Its very easy man even a 15 year old guy can do it. I've learned a lot but its not enough...i want more & more & more.
BTW, u can also do it, if u have cover 15k km.

No joke sir'jee , some of them do it every 40-45 days . Full disassembly of engine and related parts , wheels and suspensions too . Then full rebuild with mostly new parts . New clutch , piston-rings , cylinder hone (piston+cylinder lasts 3 such overhauls), gearbox work, bearings, brakes, oil(motul 3-wheeler oil is much costlier than motorcycle oil) etc etc . They run on LPG here now . Petrol ones used to go longer betweens such overhauls , they say . Do you realise how much they run ? and with how much load ? and how much in stop-go stop-go style ? For a 10km route ... 20-30 to and fro trips daily (which is common) it's 12000-18000kms monthly . Under load of 5-6 guys on-board , stopping every now and so to offload and take up a passenger . Remember that they have to do it for a living daily . No trips or a holiday or a breakdown or puncture or a day spent on engine work means no income .... many of these guys here are college graduates too .
There much to be learned from the species .

What the,....18000 km monthly i can't expect. Yeah it can be coz kolkatta is a very big city it not like my small jamshedpur where 20 km is enough to go from one to the other end. Markets are only 5-7 km from my house.
I've visited once on last Dec, was at near park street place...it was so so congested that one cant even put a leg on road. Only walk in streets. My father often visit it.
I dont know how u drive! I can understand your feeling.

But their (auto rickshaws) driving is not good at all. Everyone here hates them, because they were high-tempered, hit the brake and stop on the middle of the road disturbing other traffics. Turns up anywhere without any signal. and didn't follow traffic rules.
Most recent case happened with me 2 days ago. One auto instead of turning from a gol chakker he took a shortcut from a wrong way, and i was coming from the other side @ 50 kph, it was night time and he didn't turned ON his head light. So when i reach the gol chakkar i saw auto on front of me when my head light was put on it. So it was about only 4 meters gap left when i hit the brake hard, he stopped right there and thanks god that i saved.
Even if his head lights were ON, I were new it before that one auto is there on a wrong way.