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**Hyperion** · 04-27-2010, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post

^^Nice Braking Stories.

On a related note, I have started to Engine brake a lot. But I am not sure if its a good or a bad thing for the Ninja.

Any inputs guys?

I dont think engine braking is ever a bad thing Ninja or any other bike.However, that doesnt mean you use engine braking in emergency situations. In case of emergencies, always use the brakes to begin with.By the way, you can still cause you rear wheel to fish tail , even if you are engine braking.

**killer_instinct** · 04-27-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Hyperion View Post

I dont think engine braking is ever a bad thing Ninja or any other bike.However, that doesnt mean you use engine braking in emergency situations. In case of emergencies, always use the brakes to begin with.By the way, you can still cause you rear wheel to fish tail , even if you are engine braking.

Exactly that happens a lot of times. Once the rear got locked too. And I totally agree that engine braking is not for emergencies.

Also I read somewhere Engine braking wears of the Clutch quicker... is that true?... doesn't really matter if it isn't major though.

**jd666** · 04-27-2010, 03:17 PM

^^ it does, but slightly.

**Hyperion** · 04-27-2010, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post

Exactly that happens a lot of times. Once the rear got locked too. And I totally agree that engine braking is not for emergencies.

Also I read somewhere Engine braking wears of the Clutch quicker... is that true?... doesn't really matter if it isn't major though.

Possibly, I havent had any issues. My RTRs clutch is still pretty good (due for a change though) after 31K Kms.And I used quite a bit of engine braking.
On the flip side, braking too much too often will wear out your brakes much much more quickly.

Question for Bluevolt or anyone else , who has removed his front number plate and replaced it with a strip on the fairing:
Does it decrease visibility through the fairing when tucked in, crouching on the tank?

**killer_instinct** · 04-27-2010, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

^^ it does, but slightly.

Originally posted by Hyperion View Post

Possibly, I havent had any issues. My RTRs clutch is still pretty good (due for a change though) after 31K Kms.And I used quite a bit of engine braking.
On the flip side, braking too much too often will wear out your brakes much much more quickly.

Question for Bluevolt or anyone else , who has removed his front number plate and replaced it with a strip on the fairing:
Does it decrease visibility through the fairing when tucked in, crouching on the tank?

Thanks Guys... Engine braking is fun and its gonna continue.

**sheelpriye** · 04-27-2010, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

A locked wheel can never ever contribute in anyway towards saving a crash.
The wheels need to be in motion to keep the bike stable and from falling sideways.

wheels in motion help you swerve(that is what ABS does) locking up won't

we usually think that locked up wheels is good sign of braking(optimum) but it isn't, the word is PUMP

Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post

On a related note, I have started to Engine brake a lot. But I am not sure if its a good or a bad thing for the Ninja.

Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post

And I totally agree that engine braking is not for emergencies.

Also I read somewhere Engine braking wears of the Clutch quicker... is that true?... doesn't really matter if it isn't major though.

engine components might wear out but it is too less to be noticeable,
once you start blipping and start going down the 'box trust me you shall do this even on the Chetak/M-800,
i search for gears in an automatic too

while braking

@JD--ride more

**bluevolt** · 04-27-2010, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

Hence the want to increase the lever travel.

Has anyone done that already ? Jd et Bluevolt ?

Nope haven't done that. I seldom use the rear brake strongly, even in emergencies. It is always 70% front, 30% rear for me, ever since I had a scare with the rear wheel locking up a few months ago!

Originally posted by Hyperion View Post

Question for Bluevolt or anyone else , who has removed his front number plate and replaced it with a strip on the fairing:
Does it decrease visibility through the fairing when tucked in, crouching on the tank?

No, because your line of sight will be above the sticker if you install it in the correct (read lower) position.

**amitredefined** · 04-27-2010, 09:37 PM

Completed 1600 kms - any tips

I think I am the slowest one to complete 1600kms. Exactly 2 months

(got the bike on 27th feb)

Any tips or shall I start ripping it off

**killer_instinct** · 04-27-2010, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by amitredefined View Post

I think I am the slowest one to complete 1600kms. Exactly 2 months

(got the bike on 27th feb)

Any tips or shall I start ripping it off

Rip baby Rip... and don't look back.

**jd666** · 04-27-2010, 09:55 PM

@sheelpriye - i think i ride enough man.. just gotta ride slower now..

**TenHut** · 04-28-2010, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by killer_instinct View Post

Exactly that happens a lot of times. Once the rear got locked too.

killer if your rear wheel is locking up then you arent engine braking; you are downshifting at wrong revs and without rev matching(blipping the throttle)
Engine braking should not result in wheel locks. You WILL wear out engine parts if you keep doing it so hard.
Engine braking should only play the part of assisting your lever braking. It should not be at par or more than the lever braking. (it should not be anywhere close to lever braking tbh)

Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post

wheels in motion help you swerve(that is what ABS does) locking up won't

we usually think that locked up wheels is good sign of braking(optimum) but it isn't, the word is PUMP

My point exactly !

**trustvishwas** · 04-28-2010, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by TenHut View Post

the Ninja 250R's rear brake is just outright madness.
Double piston Caliper 220mm on that machine is insane.
My 600RR has SINGLE piston caliper 220 mm.

Its an overkill. And in emergency situations you WILL reach for the rear.
I am thinking of getting rid of the rear or of increasing the lever travel.

Easier to try swapping 600rr brakes with 250r.

**blabberash** · 04-28-2010, 10:58 AM

i came across this article last year, about ABS

Antilock Braking System (ABS) for Indian Motorcycles

at that time i had apache rtr 180 and i was really scared with my rear tyre and its braking capabilities.

anyone thinks putting these will reduce the lock-in or have tried these.

**vkuchhal** · 04-28-2010, 02:40 PM

[Ownership Thread]: Kawasaki Ninja 250R

hi all,

This is Vibhor for mysore.i have been a big fan of xbhp and have been following it for quite sometime now. this is my first post.

My special thanks to jd, killer instinct, blue volt for their contribution to the ownership thread and i have learnt a lot from it.
i also had booked my Ninja baby on 22nd march, and today got a call from janki that it will be coming in few days.
i one month wait was like a decade but now i am on seven's heaven.

Shall keep u posted on my ownership experience. ...

Till then keep sharing experiences and drive safe.

**Yasser** · 04-28-2010, 02:45 PM

Effect of heat on paint

I know there has been a lot of discussion on the bike heating up, but I really do feel it is a lot...do you guys think I should report to PBK. It is so much that I am afraid my inner thighs will get scalded.

Secondly, I am using a cover for my bike which does not breathe it is a water proof cover, so my question is if I cover the bike immediately after using it when it is still hot, will the paint get effected due to the heat ?

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