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  • Originally posted by bluevolt View Post
    I was short on choice so I picked up Osrams, but I am going to pick up a set of PIAA H7 Extreme White plus soon.
    Are the PIAA H7's available in India? May be will pick them up from Bangkok next month

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    • Originally posted by harsha645 View Post
      @bluevolt do the osram 4300k bulbs fit into the same socket or we should change the socket of bulb because as far as i know the sockets of ninja are two pinned(donno whether the term is correct or not) and most of the bulbs of cars and other bikes are having three pin sockets.....pardon my ignorance if i am wrong ....
      As long as your bulb is H7 socket type, it will fit in the Ninja. And I think (not 100% sure), you should be able to use a H4 bulb as long as you get a H4 to H4 adapter. Currently the Ninja 250 uses an adapter which converts H7 into a bigger size, which is a H4, I think.

      Originally posted by malliah View Post
      Are the PIAA H7's available in India? May be will pick them up from Bangkok next month
      Nope, hoping I will get them at cyclegear, Amreeka.

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      • Originally posted by bluevolt View Post
        Not whitish - pure white light. Not yellow at all.
        Well, this is what I wanted to convey too...
        Just be careful when you ride on rains/fog because, I've been told that WHITE light gets dispersed during these times causing poor visibility to the driver (on cars, not sure on motorcycles).

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        • Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post
          Just a thought... In case of the battery running out and isolated places can't we use a set of (9V +1.5V *2 )=12V battery combination to jump start our bike battery.

          Can that be done?
          Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post
          Adi. I think that charger needs 3-5 hrs of quick charging and the power supply to do it..

          I was talking if incase if someone gets caught in the deserted place[IMG]file:///C:/Users/DRVMTM/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.png[/IMG], with the battery not working than what all options we have..
          i must confess that i dont have a ninja but i studied its electrical s quite deeply.
          its having a tci igniion and a 3 phase charger which gives 19 amps @5000rpm,and ignition is transistorized coil (tci) type.
          in short form its possible to push start the bike in gear but dosent always work because of the fi system.the fi need a constant stable voltage input which is not there when the battery is down or dead or not on place.for this a sudden surge of voltage ca occur which can do bad for the fi and other components.this is the reason the fi equipped bikes or cars are not recommended to push start.
          i remember few months back a cbr from kolkatta was failed to push start but it started by jump cables from another hyabusa.
          it may be a protective circuit that prevents to push start the ninja or cbr to save the electricals ,i am not sure.
          i remember clear indication on my maruti zen 02 model mpfi manual NOT TO PUSH START TO SAVE THE FI FROM SURGE OF VOLTAGE.
          so what to do when you find your self in middle of no where witha dead battery.can happen to any one because these are electronics and they can fail.

          the recommended way is JUMP START.
          -YOU NEED TWO CABLES OF COPPER SHOUD BE THICK GAUGE WITH STRONG CROCODILE CLIPS ON BOTH ENDS,ONE BLACK,ONE RED.
          -RED IS POSITIVE ,BLACK IS NEGATIVE.
          -YOU NEED ANY CAR OR BIKE OR 3 WHEELER WHICH IS HAVING A BATTERY OF MORE THEN 9 AMPS AND 12 VOLTS.
          -START THE BIKE/CAR/3 WHEELER,
          -ATTACH THE CABLES TO THAT VEHICLE RED IN BATT POSITIVE,BLACK IN NEGATIVE.
          --ATTACH THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CABLES TO YOUR BIKES BATT POSITIVE AND OTHER TO BATT NEGETIVE.
          -HIT THE STARTER BUTTON AND VOILA YOU ARE DONE,THE ENGINE WILL START.
          -REMOVE THE CABLES ,AND THEN CHECK YOUR BIKES BTTERY ASAP BEFORE SWITCHING OFF THE ENGINE.

          this procedure is called JUMP START.this will work.
          YouTube - How to jump start a car - Jump starting a car battery
          the procedure is same in bike also.
          the positive and negative terminals should never touch in any means.
          a small 9 volt +2 ,1.5 volt willa dd upto 12 volt but it will have shortage in ampere.you need 6 of them(amp)min.

          @bluevolt-
          rahul sir will you share a picture of the package of the bulbs because i am a bit confused which bulb you are talking about.is it nightbreaker?
          ps.for white light hunters for ninja-try p 220 carbs bulbs,these are also from osram with white light,a bit cheap in cost then nightbreaker.the bulbs are SAME.

          also there is too much misunderstanding with color temp. see this.
          the 4300 is not pure white,it s more WHITER then halogen bulbs ,it seems white who used halogen before,so 4300k is ok and good as it will do the work just fine.
          6 k is on the other hand is white.

          white light will only show markings on the road,sign boards as they are on fire,but no road,the condition worsens in case of rain,on the other hand 4300k shows the road+sign+marking,its a perfect balance.
          Last edited by drvmtm; 02-08-2011, 09:12 PM.
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          • Originally posted by drvmtm View Post

            this procedure is called JUMP START.this will work.
            The procedure is fine but needs a very important precaution.

            Make sure that the metal parts or the body of both the vehicles do not touch each other. All vehicles use the metal body as one part of the circuit. Touch the two bodies while they are electrically connected and you're probably not going anywhere with severely damaged electricals.
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            • I've 2 questions on the jump start, but my knowledge is more from jump starting a car & not a motorcycle...

              Step A.
              Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
              -START THE BIKE/CAR/3 WHEELER
              Step B.
              Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
              -ATTACH THE CABLES TO THAT VEHICLE RED IN BATT POSITIVE,BLACK IN NEGATIVE.
              Step C.
              Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
              --ATTACH THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CABLES TO YOUR BIKES BATT POSITIVE AND OTHER TO BATT NEGETIVE.
              Questions...
              1. Shouldn't the steps be reordered as B, C & A? I mean to say, the Bike/Car/3 Wheeler should be started only after the connections are made isn't it?
              2. Which one should be connected first, the positive-positive or Negative-Negative?
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              • I actually at one occasion had to Push start my Ninja as the battery was out of juice (kept the headlamps on w/o the bike running so completely my mistake)....the actual Push start was done by the Bajaj mechanics who had come at the scene to help me out so dont know if there were any difficulties faced but they did it in the first attempt

                Do you think there would have been any sort of damage to its electricals
                (its been over an year since that incident and everything is working fine)
                Last edited by The Stig; 02-09-2011, 02:08 AM.

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                • Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                  @bluevolt-
                  rahul sir will you share a picture of the package of the bulbs because i am a bit confused which bulb you are talking about.is it nightbreaker?
                  ps.for white light hunters for ninja-try p 220 carbs bulbs,these are also from osram with white light,a bit cheap in cost then nightbreaker.the bulbs are SAME.
                  Dr. Saheb, it ain't the nightbreaker, it is this:


                  Blue bulb with silver caps

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                  • Yet another comparison of the two... I'm sure all the Kawi owners can predict the winner already...
                    Honda CBR250R vs Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Sportbike Motorcycle Comparison Review - Motorcycle USA

                    *Note that in USA it is releaseed as carberated version...still....
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                    • is it possible to get Used Ninja for around 2Lac ???
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                      • Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                        the recommended way is JUMP START.
                        -YOU NEED TWO CABLES OF COPPER SHOUD BE THICK GAUGE WITH STRONG CROCODILE CLIPS ON BOTH ENDS,ONE BLACK,ONE RED.
                        -RED IS POSITIVE ,BLACK IS NEGATIVE.
                        -YOU NEED ANY CAR OR BIKE OR 3 WHEELER WHICH IS HAVING A BATTERY OF MORE THEN 9 AMPS AND 12 VOLTS.
                        -START THE BIKE/CAR/3 WHEELER,
                        -ATTACH THE CABLES TO THAT VEHICLE RED IN BATT POSITIVE,BLACK IN NEGATIVE.
                        --ATTACH THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CABLES TO YOUR BIKES BATT POSITIVE AND OTHER TO BATT NEGETIVE.
                        -HIT THE STARTER BUTTON AND VOILA YOU ARE DONE,THE ENGINE WILL START.
                        -REMOVE THE CABLES ,AND THEN CHECK YOUR BIKES BTTERY ASAP BEFORE SWITCHING OFF THE ENGINE.

                        this procedure is called JUMP START.this will work.
                        YouTube - How to jump start a car - Jump starting a car battery
                        the procedure is same in bike also.
                        In the video, the lady connects the negative to the metal part of the vehicle whose battery is dead, but the above steps suggest connecting the negative to the battery terminal in the dead battery vehicle.

                        Which one is correct?

                        Originally posted by nagoo View Post
                        is it possible to get Used Ninja for around 2Lac ???
                        Check the classifieds section. You may find one.
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                        • Originally posted by The Celebrity View Post
                          Yet another comparison of the two... I'm sure all the Kawi owners can predict the winner already...
                          Honda CBR250R vs Kawasaki Ninja 250R - Sportbike Motorcycle Comparison Review - Motorcycle USA

                          *Note that in USA it is releaseed as carberated version...still....

                          There would be a lot of Honda CBR hopefuls who would thank you for publishing it on this Ninja forum. Some one had even commented that the N250R forums doesnt even discuss about the Honda CBR250R. It goes on to show how NInja guys look at it as a source of competition

                          A bike is like a pair of boobs and i like them in all sizes and shapes
                          Honda ya Bonda, i would definitely like to ride and taste/rip one of them

                          Here were my thoughts on the Honda when i went through the link.

                          a) The 0-100 seems good too for the CBR250R (8.5 seconds)

                          b) THis is the part am worried about

                          Its a freaking mechanical ABS..not an electronic one. Wouldnot want this if i were to run into sand, gravel or grass.The last thing anyone would want to do in such a situation is even think about the front brake.
                          Moreover it wont help you do any trail braking on the corners as well.

                          c) Inspite of the C-ABS and a lighter weight, both have the same stopping distance. This also means that the stock brakes lack bite on the Honda.

                          d) The mileage looks good (65 mpg = 27 kmpl) is similar to what you get on the european spec Ninja as well.

                          e) THe 90mph (144 kmph) top speed is a bad let off. Thats what the fastest Indian can do. Do agree that it would get there faster than the fastest indian though Overall not a bad deal at 1.8 lacs. But if the top end is only 144, assume it would reach 110-120 in quick time and take a lil while to reach the 144 mark.

                          f) Now i wonder if the fastest indian would be a better choice at a lac less!!. This point was just to irritate the Honda wannabees because when i bought the Ninja, a pulsar guy had asked why i bought it? I could have bought 4 pulsars for it, he said. I had retorted: why did u buy the pulsar then? You could have bought two splendors instead.

                          So the honda guys will also learn to deal with questions like this and if infact any Honda guys read this, i am ready to swap my NInja with you for a test ride.
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                          • Originally posted by n_aditya View Post
                            In the video, the lady connects the negative to the metal part of the vehicle whose battery is dead, but the above steps suggest connecting the negative to the battery terminal in the dead battery vehicle.

                            Which one is correct?
                            Both are correct , All the negative does is it grounds that terminal ... so grounding can either be done by connecting to any metal part on the bike or by attaching it to the good battery's negative terminal also ...

                            aargee is right , the steps are in B, C , A order ... first do the connections then start the bike with the good battery , let it idle a bit and then start the bike with the dead battery ,

                            and also while removing the connections get rid of the positive (red) cables first ...
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                            • Woaah ! .... 5000+ replies to Ninja 250R thread ... Have loads of pages to go through before I order 1 ~!

                              Keep it up guys ... This is one of the best threads here on xBhp !
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                              • Originally posted by JAKRAP View Post
                                when i bought the Ninja, a pulsar guy had asked why i bought it? I could have bought 4 pulsars for it, he said. I had retorted: why did u buy the pulsar then? You could have bought two splendors instead.
                                Hee Hee.... that's a good one.... I will use it next time somebody asks me the same question...
                                Last edited by The Celebrity; 02-09-2011, 06:21 PM.
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