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  • The technician came and inspected the bike. As i was expecting the roll-over sensor to be the culprit, to my surprise it was found out that both the spark plugs were not getting proper power which resulting in cutting off the power.

    Now i wonder how could this be possible on a bike which did only 800kms on-board(the first instance when the said problem was noticed). Right now my ODO reads 3600kms. Upon contacting the dealer to my dismay i came to know that i have to bear the charges for the replacement of the spark plugs. Is this for real? I mean, i know spark plug is considered as a consummable but still is it designed to fail in the bike so early and ultimately the customer has to pay for it time and again?

    Same thing goes for the Brake pads. As per the technician, the front pads are gone and wont last more than 500-600kms. Pathetic to say the least, is the life of the said "world class" product is only 4000kms? And this when i was not able to rip the bike, now when the bike is running Ok and hitting 14k rpm i expect the brake pads not to last more than 2000 kms. To put things in perspective, my RTR needs pad replacement every 15-16k kms and offers 80% of the braking feel of the Ninja.

    These are the questions which have left me in a tizzy. Why did i pay more for a bike like the Ninja, only to be ripped right across and center by Kawasaki/Bajaj ? Even the silencer is showing signs of rusting.






    Originally posted by vijeth v View Post
    Hey guys,
    I just went out for a ride today morning.Having done 1500kms,I decided Il do some high rpm runs.I ripped to 12k rpm a couple of times and for about 40kms kept it above 10k rpm.Then stopped for a while and then resumed again

    Only this time,once I took it past 12k rpm,the power just cutoff.There was no throttle response,and the low oil light came on.I stopped the bike and tried to switch on again,and the FI light came on a couple of times.Then I turned the key to "off" position and started again.
    The bike Switched on fine.Rode again and tested again and took it 12k rpm.Again the Same thing happened.

    After a while I started again,Took it to high rpm again and the bike was fine.Kept taking it to high rpms to check if it crops up again and it did.The bike shut off again.
    Its happening kind of randomly.

    So I was wondering if this was indeed the roller sensor issue as someone mentioned earlier.But I tried revving it in neutral and it fine.

    Or maybe I filled normal petrol today from an Indian oil bunk,I was just wondering if it was the poor quality of petrol which might have clogged the injectors.?
    Check the spark plugs and also ask them to do the Fi-Code error checking so as to determine the exact cause.

    Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post
    Wear of the brake pads solely depends on your riding style.

    I mostly use throttle control and engine braking , and it is because of this that even after daily city and highway rides, the stock OEM brake pad of my bike lasted 26000 kms and now are due for a replacement.
    26000kms is a huge and given the way i ride and the way my bike is performing it would take total of 10 brake pad replacements by the time i reach 26000kms which would cost me 1400*10=14000 bucks only for the front!!

    Originally posted by pulsar_flame View Post
    my ninja 250r - disk pads has been worn out in 3000 kms - is this normal ? also what is the cost of both front n rear ?
    Welcome to the Club!!

    Front one costed me 1395. Havent yet replaced the front. Have kept it for future use.

    If someone from Kawasaki/Bajaj is reading this, please consider these issues as critical as premature brake wear and engine shut down issue has cropped in bikes manufactured during last 6 months which is a case to ponder.

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    • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
      The technician came and inspected the bike. As i was expecting the roll-over sensor to be the culprit, to my surprise it was found out that both the spark plugs were not getting proper power which resulting in cutting off the power.

      Now i wonder how could this be possible on a bike which did only 800kms on-board(the first instance when the said problem was noticed). Right now my ODO reads 3600kms. Upon contacting the dealer to my dismay i came to know that i have to bear the charges for the replacement of the spark plugs. Is this for real? I mean, i know spark plug is considered as a consummable but still is it designed to fail in the bike so early and ultimately the customer has to pay for it time and again?

      Same thing goes for the Brake pads. As per the technician, the front pads are gone and wont last more than 500-600kms. Pathetic to say the least, is the life of the said "world class" product is only 4000kms? And this when i was not able to rip the bike, now when the bike is running Ok and hitting 14k rpm i expect the brake pads not to last more than 2000 kms. To put things in perspective, my RTR needs pad replacement every 15-16k kms and offers 80% of the braking feel of the Ninja.

      These are the questions which have left me in a tizzy. Why did i pay more for a bike like the Ninja, only to be ripped right across and center by Kawasaki/Bajaj ? Even the silencer is showing signs of rusting.
      This is not expected from kawasaki.
      Both the plugs not getting power may be due to the ignition coil too.
      Did you check the power supply at each plug ?
      Were the sparks even and right ?
      They both look slightly on the more roasted side, indicating that the bike is running a bit lean.
      And why you have to pay for the plugs ? !
      I remember I had the spark plug problem on my Optra at some 2000 kms and the co. changed it all for free.

      The silencer rusting sounds like we're talking about a bike made by TVS.
      These issues are not all expected from Kawasaki.

      And why the pads are gone before 4000kms ? Is it normal with Indian Kawasaki Ninja 250 ?
      I still remember, my RTR FI, at some 15000 kms, when I sold it, the pads had more than 70% of life left.
      The Magician"

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      • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
        I would like to differ here. I found Ninja very easy to ride while standing. I have ridden more than 10-12 km at a stretch while standing up. You just need to readjust rvms. It was mainly to relieve boredom during my recent Rajasthan Ride.
        You're picking up a special case and generalising it - which is not what I was talking about. "Standing and riding" means "you'll be able to use your motorcycle controls effectively". "Motorcycle controls" = the throttle, clutch and brakes. I have found this to be particularly valuable in India, where statistically half the roads are not paved. I don't think telling the person asking about ride quality that "If you're ever on an open road with no traffic, signals and cows, the Ninja will also be just as good as the Duke" will serve any purpose. Do you?

        Originally posted by Ananth View Post
        I bought in a New battery (From Bachoo Motors for 5700), Charged it up in a near by Battery Store for some 6+ hours - Fixed it up myself and it all worked fine. Rode the bike for a hour or so and parked it for the Night.

        Next morning, The bike showed some sort of sluggishness while starting. Rode for 10 Kms No issues. Parked it for some 30 minutes & came back - The battery Died

        Had to push start it again, and even after riding for a hour the bike was not 100% fine. It was still stuttering and needed more revs to keep the bike normal.

        So, I assume its not the battery that is the culprit - May be anything to do with the Rectifier / Regulator Unit ? Any help would be appreciated. My Bike's been grounded for about 3 weeks now
        Check the charging voltage, it will tell you if the rectifier is weak. If that is fine, there's a leak in your electrical system, which explains the battery drain while shut off.

        Originally posted by hellbreaker46 View Post
        Even my case was the same, the front pads wearing down at about ~3600kms. While the rear is almost new because I happen to use very little of the rear, I think yours is the same case. But someone pointed out here that's the way to brake on a sports bike - more of the front, less of the rear.
        3500km, brake pads will need to be replaced soon. Seems normal for the motorcycle.

        Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
        Check the spark plugs and also ask them to do the Fi-Code error checking so as to determine the exact cause.
        The codes and what they mean are there on this thread.

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        • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post



          Check the spark plugs and also ask them to do the Fi-Code error checking so as to determine the exact cause.



          If someone from Kawasaki/Bajaj is reading this, please consider these issues as critical as premature brake wear and engine shut down issue has cropped in bikes manufactured during last 6 months which is a case to ponder.
          Were you facing the Issues every time the bike was revved past a certain rpm?
          Mine is happening kind of randomly and mine is just 1500kms on the odo.

          And how can the bike run lean/rich?
          Won't the ECU be fixing that(correct me if I am wrong?)
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          Yamaha FZ-16 (2010-12)
          -Kawasaki Ninja 250R (2012-13)
          -KTM Duke 390(2013- )

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          • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
            26000kms is a huge and given the way i ride and the way my bike is performing it would take total of 10 brake pad replacements by the time i reach 26000kms which would cost me 1400*10=14000 bucks only for the front!!

            Front one costed me 1395. Havent yet replaced the front. Have kept it for future use.

            If someone from Kawasaki/Bajaj is reading this, please consider these issues as critical as premature brake wear and engine shut down issue has cropped in bikes manufactured during last 6 months which is a case to ponder.
            Changed my front brake pad on saturday, it seems a pretty simple DIY job , took only 20 mins.

            Slight correction in the price on brake pad. At autoservice costed me 1371(inclusive of taxes) , but do not know why khivraj is looting as they told me the price would be 1800+.
            RIP Marco

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            • Originally posted by vijeth v View Post
              Hey guys,
              I just went out for a ride today morning.Having done 1500kms,I decided Il do some high rpm runs.I ripped to 12k rpm a couple of times and for about 40kms kept it above 10k rpm.Then stopped for a while and then resumed again

              Only this time,once I took it past 12k rpm,the power just cutoff.There was no throttle response,and the low oil light came on.I stopped the bike and tried to switch on again,and the FI light came on a couple of times.Then I turned the key to "off" position and started again.
              The bike Switched on fine.Rode again and tested again and took it 12k rpm.Again the Same thing happened.

              After a while I started again,Took it to high rpm again and the bike was fine.Kept taking it to high rpms to check if it crops up again and it did.The bike shut off again.
              Its happening kind of randomly.

              So I was wondering if this was indeed the roller sensor issue as someone mentioned earlier.But I tried revving it in neutral and it fine.

              Or maybe I filled normal petrol today from an Indian oil bunk,I was just wondering if it was the poor quality of petrol which might have clogged the injectors.?

              Even I faced same kind of problem above 10k rpm suddenly Tachometer reading started decreasing and I have to stop the bike and once I swictched on /off ignition no problem at all
              I thought of petrol impurities I use normal petrol Bike odometer reading is 16k
              is there any fuel filter inside which needs to be checked or cleaned ???
              Never bark with horn Roar with exhaust

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              • Originally posted by Kiran bhor View Post
                Even I faced same kind of problem above 10k rpm suddenly Tachometer reading started decreasing and I have to stop the bike and once I swictched on /off ignition no problem at all
                I thought of petrol impurities I use normal petrol Bike odometer reading is 16k
                is there any fuel filter inside which needs to be checked or cleaned ???
                Hmm,if bad fuel is the culprit, wouldn't there be a lot more of such instances here.I have shown it both to Khivraj and Autoservice,both of them are of the opinion that it can only be caused by the faulty roller sensor.Will check and report once its installed.
                REVVADDICT
                -
                Yamaha FZ-16 (2010-12)
                -Kawasaki Ninja 250R (2012-13)
                -KTM Duke 390(2013- )

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                • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                  This is not expected from kawasaki.
                  Both the plugs not getting power may be due to the ignition coil too.
                  Did you check the power supply at each plug ?
                  Were the sparks even and right ?
                  They both look slightly on the more roasted side, indicating that the bike is running a bit lean.
                  And why you have to pay for the plugs ? !
                  I remember I had the spark plug problem on my Optra at some 2000 kms and the co. changed it all for free.

                  The silencer rusting sounds like we're talking about a bike made by TVS.
                  These issues are not all expected from Kawasaki.

                  And why the pads are gone before 4000kms ? Is it normal with Indian Kawasaki Ninja 250 ?
                  I still remember, my RTR FI, at some 15000 kms, when I sold it, the pads had more than 70% of life left.
                  Exactly, i too had the same doubt. Normally the ignition coil is responsible for injector/spark plug faults. Technician confirmed it that the spark plugs were faulty, let's see how the current one fares.

                  Originally posted by vijeth v View Post
                  Were you facing the Issues every time the bike was revved past a certain rpm?
                  Mine is happening kind of randomly and mine is just 1500kms on the odo.

                  And how can the bike run lean/rich?
                  Won't the ECU be fixing that(correct me if I am wrong?)
                  I faced it everytime whenever i happened to cross 9k rpm.

                  Originally posted by vijeth v View Post
                  Hmm,if bad fuel is the culprit, wouldn't there be a lot more of such instances here.I have shown it both to Khivraj and Autoservice,both of them are of the opinion that it can only be caused by the faulty roller sensor.Will check and report once its installed.
                  Get the bike checked by them. In my case, the roll-over sensor was not the culprit.

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                  • I really fail to understand how Bajaj can be so careless about so serious an issue.Its a serious manufacturing defect.

                    I was riding at about 8k-9k rpm against the wind on 6th gear doing about 110kmph,thinking that it was safe when suddenly I lost power,the bike just switches off,and I was in a serious fix with a truck just following me close by.Somehow managed to park it at the side of the road .To think what would have happened if I was overtaking a fast moving vehicle!.



                    And,I saw a Ninja 250R rider today on Mysore Road,I waved at him.Was it someone from here?
                    REVVADDICT
                    -
                    Yamaha FZ-16 (2010-12)
                    -Kawasaki Ninja 250R (2012-13)
                    -KTM Duke 390(2013- )

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                    • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                      The technician came and inspected the bike. As i was expecting the roll-over sensor to be the culprit, to my surprise it was found out that both the spark plugs were not getting proper power which resulting in cutting off the power.

                      Now i wonder how could this be possible on a bike which did only 800kms on-board(the first instance when the said problem was noticed). Right now my ODO reads 3600kms. Upon contacting the dealer to my dismay i came to know that i have to bear the charges for the replacement of the spark plugs. Is this for real? I mean, i know spark plug is considered as a consummable but still is it designed to fail in the bike so early and ultimately the customer has to pay for it time and again?

                      Same thing goes for the Brake pads. As per the technician, the front pads are gone and wont last more than 500-600kms. Pathetic to say the least, is the life of the said "world class" product is only 4000kms? And this when i was not able to rip the bike, now when the bike is running Ok and hitting 14k rpm i expect the brake pads not to last more than 2000 kms. To put things in perspective, my RTR needs pad replacement every 15-16k kms and offers 80% of the braking feel of the Ninja.

                      These are the questions which have left me in a tizzy. Why did i pay more for a bike like the Ninja, only to be ripped right across and center by Kawasaki/Bajaj ? Even the silencer is showing signs of rusting.

                      Check the spark plugs and also ask them to do the Fi-Code error checking so as to determine the exact cause.


                      one costed me 1395. Havent yet replaced the front. Have kept it for future use.

                      If someone from Kawasaki/Bajaj is reading this, please consider these issues as critical as premature brake wear and engine shut down issue has cropped in bikes manufactured during last 6 months which is a case to ponder.
                      i hope the issues are resolved. the plugs are also under warrenty. regarding the wearing of brake pads one can visually inspect them and have a clear idea about what is the level of wear. riding style has a direct bearing on brake pad wear. like keeping foot on rear brake pedal always which may result in faster wear ( unnoticed contact of pad on the disk) same with the front brake.

                      my rear silencer plate screws contact points had some rust formed. i had put oil to keep the same in check.

                      please e mail bajaj about your problem. it also possible that the dealer/ mechanic is trying to take you for a ride.

                      about ninja there is little we can do to trouble shoot the bike. so we are dependant on the dealer and especially the mechanic. the bike to be ridden like a ninja , 100% mechanical perfection is required and nothing less. to put in plain language " our life rides with the bike ". take care of it.
                      Mountain biking on impulse with my wife and our bike goes down in water

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                      • Guys ive searched everywhere but couldnt find clutch plate for my cousin's ninja so finally ive decided to order it from online in ebay i only found ebc clutch plate for ninja 08-11 Kawasaki EX250R Ninja 250R EBC Motorcycle Stock Style Clutch Plate Set | eBay

                        i am not sure weather to order this or not plz help thx
                        The Power of Kawasaki Ninja 250r is with me

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                        • Hey guys,
                          Posting on behalf of my non -xbhpian friend here,He just bought the Ninja 250R about 2 weeks ago.He's done about a 900kms.
                          He's reporting a mileage of 15-20kmpl even when ridden under 5k rpm.
                          What could be the problem?
                          REVVADDICT
                          -
                          Yamaha FZ-16 (2010-12)
                          -Kawasaki Ninja 250R (2012-13)
                          -KTM Duke 390(2013- )

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                          • Originally posted by vijeth v View Post
                            Hey guys,
                            Posting on behalf of my non -xbhpian friend here,He just bought the Ninja 250R about 2 weeks ago.He's done about a 900kms.
                            He's reporting a mileage of 15-20kmpl even when ridden under 5k rpm.
                            What could be the problem?
                            Find out how he did his calculation. I do it on a full tank to full tank basis. My ninja is 1900 kms and through out the run-in it was returning an average of 30 km/ltr and after run-in with lots of open throttle use, it still returns a 27 - 28 km/ltr. If it is less than 20 and since it is a new bike advise him to visit pbk pronto. Even otherwise his first service is due.

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                            • plz help...

                              hi brothers.
                              sorry to repeat as it seems the question must have been asked previously as well by someone else.
                              i need a racing stand for the ninja. What modification i require on the yamaha r15 racing stand so that it can take ninja as well..
                              If anyone has done it plz tell if its possible..
                              thanks.
                              ride safe.

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                              • Yesterday I took my bike for a ride. I have not yet exceeded 100 km/h till now as it was still in run in mode. The first time I get the bike above 100, reaching 110 and whoa!! suddenly the bike turns off, the oil light comes on and the same story as many of you have mentioned. Stop, switch off the bike, switch on, start and go. No problems there. Again I reach the same speed and again it happens. Consistently in the six or seven times I have reached 110 or just above 9k rpm, this happens. Pbk is 250 kms away from my place. Is it roll over sensor or spark plug issue? How do I check? My bike is just 1900 kms on the odo. It is a May 2012 manufactured one.

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