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  • #15271
    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Jealousy !.
    lol i had that thought too

    .Check oil level and color...darker oil denotes contamination...I remember your saying that on higher Revs you get blue smoke from exhaust...
    Sir, I have just completed 60 kms after oil change.. can the oil color change in 60 kms?? yes, the bike smokes at higher RPMs.. but I don't redline the bike at all these days.. at max I go upto 6K rpm..
    Splendor - 2k to 2006
    Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
    P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
    Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
    ZMR - 2010 to Forever
    RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
    Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
    RayZ - 2015 til now
    Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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    • #15272
      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
      Same here sir. I get smoke in higher revs.. But the oil level hardly changed after i checked, after using it for 2.5k kms. Hope its not thr bore

      Sent from my C5502 using xBhp Connect mobile app
      Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
      lol i had that thought too



      Sir, I have just completed 60 kms after oil change.. can the oil color change in 60 kms?? yes, the bike smokes at higher RPMs.. but I don't redline the bike at all these days.. at max I go upto 6K rpm..
      Blueish smoke at higher RPM is an indication that the sealing between the Piston Rings and Bore is not Good at Higher RPMs. It is an indication that sooner or later you may have reduced performance and need to Change Bore and Piston with rings .....still if the engine is handled gently may last a few Thousand Kilometers
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • #15273
        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by psr View Post
        Blueish smoke at higher RPM is an indication that the sealing between the Piston Rings and Bore is not Good at Higher RPMs. It is an indication that sooner or later you may have reduced performance and need to Change Bore and Piston with rings .....still if the engine is handled gently may last a few Thousand Kilometers
        The mech said i could replace just the rings and check it out if still i get the smoke.. I've done about 12-15000 kms from the time that i saw the smoke. Engine is still as smooth as it was in the start. Uniform pick up, good top end, etc. Is it possible to just replace the rings and then observe?

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        ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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        • #15274
          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by psr View Post
          Blueish smoke at higher RPM is an indication that the sealing between the Piston Rings and Bore is not Good at Higher RPMs. It is an indication that sooner or later you may have reduced performance and need to Change Bore and Piston with rings .....still if the engine is handled gently may last a few Thousand Kilometers
          I have done more than 15000 to ever since i noticed the smoke.. but oil level is reducing but not too much... i will save some 10000 and then open the bore to see whether changing the piston rings and oil seals will do.. otherwise i will bug you for assistance

          Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
          Splendor - 2k to 2006
          Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
          P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
          Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
          ZMR - 2010 to Forever
          RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
          Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
          RayZ - 2015 til now
          Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


          Delhi to Narkanda
          Delhi to Coimbatore
          Delhi to Nepal

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          • #15275
            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            An update (though a little late by 3 days).

            2 tankfuls yielded 1083 kms in city. (Haven't hit the highway for a loooooong time now.)
            Mileage is ~46 kmpl for 23.5 litres that went in.

            Lol, now my bike is returning 46 in city. I may have to check if I really got a 223cc mill in the first place!
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • #15276
              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              An update (though a little late by 3 days).

              2 tankfuls yielded 1083 kms in city. (Haven't hit the highway for a loooooong time now.)
              Mileage is ~46 kmpl for 23.5 litres that went in.

              Lol, now my bike is returning 46 in city. I may have to check if I really got a 223cc mill in the first place! [emoji3]
              I always doubted it. You probably have a splendor engine under the tank. You are a big time 420..



              Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
              Splendor - 2k to 2006
              Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
              P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
              Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
              ZMR - 2010 to Forever
              RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
              Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
              RayZ - 2015 til now
              Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


              Delhi to Narkanda
              Delhi to Coimbatore
              Delhi to Nepal

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              • #15277
                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                I always doubted it. You probably have a splendor engine under the tank. You are a big time 420..
                Ha ha ha... Though Splendor is too much, I was thinking on the lines of 150cc. :|
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                • #15278
                  Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                  Ha ha ha... Though Splendor is too much, I was thinking on the lines of 150cc. :|
                  LoL. Ok.. Discover 150 engine happy now [emoji3] good all round performer

                  Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
                  Splendor - 2k to 2006
                  Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                  P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                  Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                  ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                  RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                  Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                  RayZ - 2015 til now
                  Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                  Delhi to Narkanda
                  Delhi to Coimbatore
                  Delhi to Nepal

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                  • #15279
                    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                    lol [emoji3] i had that thought too



                    Sir, I have just completed 60 kms after oil change.. can the oil color change in 60 kms?? yes, the bike smokes at higher RPMs.. but I don't redline the bike at all these days.. at max I go upto 6K rpm..
                    Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                    Same here sir. I get smoke in higher revs.. But the oil level hardly changed after i checked, after using it for 2.5k kms. Hope its not thr bore

                    Sent from my C5502 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                    Do you guys turn and look for smoke while riding at 80-ish speeds?

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                    • #15280
                      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post
                      Do you guys turn and look for smoke while riding at 80-ish speeds?
                      Lol. Good one. All you need is a trustworthy person to:
                      1. Observe as you ride
                      2. Ride as you observe.


                      Sent from my phone. Kindly avoid it while riding.
                      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                      • #15281
                        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post
                        Do you guys turn and look for smoke while riding at 80-ish speeds?
                        Smart :banghead: but we are smarter..

                        Park your bike on main stand or side stand.. red line your bike in neutral [emoji3] Life is simple.. dont complicate it

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                        Last edited by rreneav1987; 12-12-2014, 07:18 AM.
                        Splendor - 2k to 2006
                        Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                        P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                        Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                        ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                        RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                        Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                        RayZ - 2015 til now
                        Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                        Delhi to Narkanda
                        Delhi to Coimbatore
                        Delhi to Nepal

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                        • #15282
                          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                          Smart :banghead: but we are smarter..

                          Park your bike on main stand or side stand.. red line your bike in neutral [emoji3] Life is simple.. dont complicate it

                          Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
                          Thought of that too but this was funnier xD

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                          • #15283
                            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                            The mech said i could replace just the rings and check it out if still i get the smoke.. I've done about 12-15000 kms from the time that i saw the smoke. Engine is still as smooth as it was in the start. Uniform pick up, good top end, etc. Is it possible to just replace the rings and then observe?

                            Sent from my C5502 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                            It is good for the Mechanic to make money...just the rings alone never wear, the bore also goes through same process. After ring change it may look like everything is ok ...till you do another 10,000 Kms, when the smoke will be so much ,your bike will become Mosquito killer....
                            Change both Bore and Piston to-gether as a matched set ..standard size. Re-boring is ,most of the time ,a waste of time and money since we do not have precision work done...

                            Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                            I have done more than 15000 to ever since i noticed the smoke.. but oil level is reducing but not too much... i will save some 10000 and then open the bore to see whether changing the piston rings and oil seals will do.. otherwise i will bug you for assistance

                            Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
                            I feel your bore and piston are already out of Service limit, since you say it consumes oil.....when you have the TIME and cash go for a change of Bore and piston set standard size....

                            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                            An update (though a little late by 3 days).

                            2 tankfuls yielded 1083 kms in city. (Haven't hit the highway for a loooooong time now.)
                            Mileage is ~46 kmpl for 23.5 litres that went in.

                            Lol, now my bike is returning 46 in city. I may have to check if I really got a 223cc mill in the first place!
                            I always had a doubt that you have Pedals attached to your ZMR......now you have confirmed it...
                            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                            • #15284
                              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                              Smart :banghead: but we are smarter..

                              Park your bike on main stand or side stand.. red line your bike in neutral [emoji3] Life is simple.. dont complicate it
                              Do that and ensure that you would screw the internals sooner! One should never rev the bike in neutral.
                              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                              • #15285
                                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                                Do that and ensure that you would screw the internals sooner! One should never rev the bike in neutral.
                                I don't think anyone would do it.. I don't do it either.. I just checked it once and since then I don't rev my bike hard even when riding
                                Splendor - 2k to 2006
                                Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                                P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                                Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                                ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                                RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                                Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                                RayZ - 2015 til now
                                Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                                Delhi to Narkanda
                                Delhi to Coimbatore
                                Delhi to Nepal

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