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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by VIJAY BHUYAN88 View Post
    How is your bike doing now Bro.
    Is the issue resolved ? (which you mentioned earlier)

    Sent from my XT1022

    Originally posted by sarkartheruler View Post
    Oil change so soon!



    How is your bike doing after the fuel pump cleaning? Would you recommend that?



    I don't think you're supposed to screw it in,


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    The service mechanic opened up the fuel pump and drained out all the petrol which was inside.

    There are three hubs.
    One comes from the battery, which is the source.

    The second connection is from the fuel tank. As you can see a tube is attached with a tool similar to a clamp/plier. That was to stop petrol from flowing out.

    The third hub is for the injector.

    Anyway, the pump seems to be fine. Now I suspect the fuel filter and the injectors. The problem still persists.
    Bike lags as though its out of petrol somewhere between 3.5k-4.5k range.

    I've been using system g for a while, so the injectors should be clean.
    Have no idea what the problem is..
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    Last edited by kmk0311; 12-05-2014, 12:01 PM.

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
      How do you measure oil level ? By screwing the dip stick completely or by just placing it on top ?
      Leave the bike on main stand for at least 30 min. 1 hour preferred. Best time - morning.
      Keep the screw on top, don't turn it in. The reading should be between min and max markers.

      Originally posted by sarkartheruler View Post
      Oil change so soon!
      I always idle for 1 minute when I start the bike. Though I rarely see others doing it.
      1500 kms is the max stock Hero oil can help.

      I'll share my routine with all. Some maybe myths but they work for me.

      1. Morning starts - 90 sec idling at least. (to office)
      2. No revving above 4.5k or below 3k for the first 4-5 kms daily.
      3. Absolutely no lugging EVER!
      4. Idling for 30 seconds after every long city commute (>15 kms or 40 mins) before turning off the ignition.
      5. Evening starts (ideally a gap of 8+ hours) - 45-60 sec idling. (from office)
      6. Chain lubed always with grease.
      7. Chain cleaning every alternate lube session.
      8. Chain lube every 500 km.
      9. Full sprockets dismantle + clean + lube every 3k kms.
      10. Redline for a few sec once in a while every month.
      11. Always fill in 1100 ml oil (1 L works too).
      12. Air filter replacement at 9-10k kms. (no compromise)
      13. Spark plug replacement every 12-14k kms. (no compromise)
      14. Replace O rings every alternate oil change.

      Removed my snorkel again to enjoy the roar. Will be put back in a few days. No harm to engine!
      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post
        The service mechanic opened up the fuel pump and drained out all the petrol which was inside.

        There are three hubs.
        One comes from the battery, which is the source.

        The second connection is from the fuel tank. As you can see a tube is attached with a tool similar to a clamp/plier. That was to stop petrol from flowing out.

        The third hub is for the injector.

        Anyway, the pump seems to be fine. Now I suspect the fuel filter and the injectors. The problem still persists.
        Bike lags as though its out of petrol somewhere between 3.5k-4.5k range.

        I've been using system g for a while, so the injectors should be clean.
        Have no idea what the problem is..

        Btw [MENTION=57939]sarkartheruler[/MENTION] why do you think you're not supposed to screw it in?

        Bro also check the battery terminals and connections once for loose contact.

        I remember meeting a ZMR owner at SVC who had same issue and the problem was with loose battery connections.

        Just sharing my view Hope it helps.


        Sent from my XT1022
        RIDE SANE , RIDE SAFE...

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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by VIJAY BHUYAN88 View Post
          Bro also check the battery terminals and connections once for loose contact.

          I remember meeting a ZMR owner at SVC who had same issue and the problem was with loose battery connections.

          Just sharing my view Hope it helps.


          Sent from my XT1022
          I checked the terminals and re tightened them bro..
          Cheers

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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
            Leave the bike on main stand for at least 30 min. 1 hour preferred. Best time - morning.
            Keep the screw on top, don't turn it in. The reading should be between min and max markers.



            1500 kms is the max stock Hero oil can help.

            I'll share my routine with all. Some maybe myths but they work for me.

            1. Morning starts - 90 sec idling at least. (to office)
            2. No revving above 4.5k or below 3k for the first 4-5 kms daily.
            3. Absolutely no lugging EVER!
            4. Idling for 30 seconds after every long city commute (>15 kms or 40 mins) before turning off the ignition.
            5. Evening starts (ideally a gap of 8+ hours) - 45-60 sec idling. (from office)
            6. Chain lubed always with grease.
            7. Chain cleaning every alternate lube session.
            8. Chain lube every 500 km.
            9. Full sprockets dismantle + clean + lube every 3k kms.
            10. Redline for a few sec once in a while every month.
            11. Always fill in 1100 ml oil (1 L works too).
            12. Air filter replacement at 9-10k kms. (no compromise)
            13. Spark plug replacement every 12-14k kms. (no compromise)
            14. Replace O rings every alternate oil change.

            Removed my snorkel again to enjoy the roar. Will be put back in a few days. No harm to engine!
            Very Informative Divya Bhai. :thumbup:



            Sent from my XT1022
            RIDE SANE , RIDE SAFE...

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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post
              The service mechanic opened up the fuel pump and drained out all the petrol which was inside.

              There are three hubs.
              One comes from the battery, which is the source.

              The second connection is from the fuel tank. As you can see a tube is attached with a tool similar to a clamp/plier. That was to stop petrol from flowing out.

              The third hub is for the injector.

              Anyway, the pump seems to be fine. Now I suspect the fuel filter and the injectors. The problem still persists.
              Bike lags as though its out of petrol somewhere between 3.5k-4.5k range.

              I've been using system g for a while, so the injectors should be clean.
              Have no idea what the problem is..
              Get injectors and fuel filter checked. My case was worse than yours. Not just lag, the engine would shut itself down specially while changing gears. I still don't know whar the problem was. But after getting the pump, filter and injector cleaned and fitted back, the problem has vanished and its almost a year and a half since its vanished.
              Also add the ignition coil to your checklist. Very important. Get it checked.

              Sent from my C5502 using xBhp Connect mobile app
              ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                Leave the bike on main stand for at least 30 min. 1 hour preferred. Best time - morning.
                Keep the screw on top, don't turn it in. The reading should be between min and max markers.
                Thanks all for the response. I was hearing mixed opinions about dipping the stick full or not. Now cleared.

                2. No revving above 4.5k or below 3k for the first 4-5 kms daily.
                - > Above 4.5k is okay, how will you manage below 3k ?

                4. Idling for 30 seconds after every long city commute (>15 kms or 40 mins) before turning off the ignition.
                -> I thought this is done for turbo charged vehicles where turbo will not be cooled quickly with natural air circulation.

                6. Chain lubed always with grease.
                -> You run with chain case or open chain ?


                9. Full sprockets dismantle + clean + lube every 3k kms.
                -> You seem to have real good patience to do this.

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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                  - > Above 4.5k is okay, how will you manage below 3k ?
                  -> I thought this is done for turbo charged vehicles where turbo will not be cooled quickly with natural air circulation.
                  -> You run with chain case or open chain ?
                  1. Ha ha ha. Good catch! I meant not to lug.

                  2. Yes, inspired by them only. Many say its not needed for NA motors, but I feel it this way:
                  You go to the gym.
                  You warm up. - That's me idling at cold starts.
                  You exercise.
                  Finally you warm down/strech before going back, else you have body ache. - That's me idling in the evening.

                  3. Case all the way! Had it open for sometime, but put it back.
                  Last edited by Divya Sharan; 12-05-2014, 01:36 PM.
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    hey guys.... There is one issue these days on my bike coming up.. i thought before sharing with the service center I will give a try here as I think you guys will be more helpful..

                    many times when I run the bike the engine seems to gasp for the pull and feel that u giving the throttle but engine not responding like missing .. but when I go above 70 the engine tends to be ok..... also the pull is non linear . My bike runs on fully synthetic Motul engine oil with Knn Filter..... after running for some time it seems to get better......

                    I read somewhere that there might be some impurity in fuel tank. is that the issue???


                    and yes I do idle bike for 2 min before the ride every time.

                    Cheers!!!
                    If thers's a Spirit, I RIDE IT!!!

                    www.falconriders.in

                    https://www.facebook.com/falconridersindia

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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by dvsingh14 View Post
                      many times when I run the bike the engine seems to gasp for the pull and feel that u giving the throttle but engine not responding like missing .. but when I go above 70 the engine tends to be ok.....
                      (Assuming air filter, spark plugs and tire pressure are normal)

                      Maybe clutch plates too. How many kms covered?
                      What RPM does your bike show at 64 kmph, 72 kmph and 88 kmph respectively?

                      Get the accelerator cables/throttle body cleaned as well.
                      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        Maybe clutch plates too. How many kms covered?
                        What RPM does your bike show at 64 kmph, 72 kmph and 88 kmph respectively?

                        Get the accelerator cables/throttle body cleaned as well.

                        I will check the rpms and let u know..... kms- 35K....
                        If thers's a Spirit, I RIDE IT!!!

                        www.falconriders.in

                        https://www.facebook.com/falconridersindia

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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by dvsingh14 View Post
                          I will check the rpms and let u know..... kms- 35K....
                          FYI, ideally these should be the figures.

                          In 5th gear:
                          64 kmph - 4000 RPM
                          72 kmph - 4500 RPM
                          88 kmph - 5500 RPM
                          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by dvsingh14 View Post
                            I will check the rpms and let u know..... kms- 35K....
                            Where is the K&N installed ? Throttle body or inside the air filter box (under seat).
                            How often do you clean and re-oil K&N ?
                            If you are getting K&N cleaned from workshops, I doubt if they use K&N OIL to recharge the filter.

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                              Get injectors and fuel filter checked. My case was worse than yours. Not just lag, the engine would shut itself down specially while changing gears. I still don't know whar the problem was. But after getting the pump, filter and injector cleaned and fitted back, the problem has vanished and its almost a year and a half since its vanished.
                              Also add the ignition coil to your checklist. Very important. Get it checked.

                              Sent from my C5502 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                              Thanks abhi, now my faith has been restored I thought there was no solution to this 😕

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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                                Where is the K&N installed ? Throttle body or inside the air filter box (under seat).
                                How often do you clean and re-oil K&N ?
                                If you are getting K&N cleaned from workshops, I doubt if they use K&N OIL to recharge the filter.
                                Its installed inside air filter box.
                                I clean it around 8K kms but do keep a chk on it.. I clean it myself I have my Knn Kit of cleaning it ..

                                Cheers
                                If thers's a Spirit, I RIDE IT!!!

                                www.falconriders.in

                                https://www.facebook.com/falconridersindia

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