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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by fast_ferocious View Post
    Hey.. how are you? You are mohsin right?One of the first ones to purchase ZMR in XBhp?

    Wow.. when did this happen? I guess it were the sales figures that made Hero to take this step? Is there any replacement round the corner?
    Yes, he is Mohsin.

    And I meant *new* models are coming, hence production is stopped. Yes, bad sales figures encouraged this.
    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      I Got my bike serviced yesterday evening. Since then It's giving starting trouble. I need to throttle for the engine to start. Now I am facing a new issue : The instrument panel truns off and the FI indicator gets on when I press the Ingition button.

      They removed the fuel tank yesterday and adjusted the tappets. There must be a connection

      In Batman's style: The Helmet is not for you; It's to protect the people you care about.
      Last edited by srikanth kvnap; 01-24-2016, 09:01 PM.
      OWNERSHIP EXPERIENCE REVIEW of ZMR 2014 (with pics)

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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Now the FI indicator is constantly ON. It's behaving erroneously, now it's off again sometimes

        In Batman's style: The Helmet is not for you; It's to protect the people you care about.
        Last edited by srikanth kvnap; 01-24-2016, 08:57 PM.
        OWNERSHIP EXPERIENCE REVIEW of ZMR 2014 (with pics)

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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
          I Got my bike serviced yesterday evening. Since then It's giving starting trouble. I need to throttle for the engine to start. Now I am facing a new issue : The instrument panel truns off and the FI indicator gets on when I press the Ingition button.

          They removed the fuel tank yesterday and adjusted the tappets. There must be a connection

          In Batman's style: The Helmet is not for you; It's to protect the people you care about.
          It's hard to figure out based on this problem description, however throttling to turn on engine while pushing starter button indicates a weak battery, and the fi lamp glows with a pattern of blinks. Try to trace out the meaning of this pattern via the fi malfunction blink chart shared by Divya Sharan some months ago. Also trouble shoot other factors like instrument cluster cable loose connectivity etc. etc. adjusting of tappets do not have relation to start unless it's very loosely set and poor timing, not entirely sure though.
          Kinetic Honda ZX(2001)
          Hero Honda CD100(1997)
          TVS-Suzuki Shogun CAT(1998) Sold :(
          TVS Scooty ES(2001)
          Hero Honda Karizma ZMR(2010)
          RX135 4S(2000)
          RX135 5S(2000)
          IND-SUZUKI AX100(1985)
          LML-VESPA NV(1990) Sold
          TVS-Suzuki Shogun(1994)

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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
            I Got my bike serviced yesterday evening. Since then It's giving starting trouble. I need to throttle for the engine to start. Now I am facing a new issue : The instrument panel truns off and the FI indicator gets on when I press the Ingition button.

            They removed the fuel tank yesterday and adjusted the tappets. There must be a connection
            Have you washed your bike recently? Maybe water causing a short circuit or a loose wire causing ground too.
            Additionally, open the battery compartment and disconnect the battery as well as starter relay. Clean all points and apply Vaseline jelly on the battery terminals only (yup, the same one you apply on your lips) and refit the whole thing.
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              There was some delay in getting my bike serviced. Utilized this long weekend in getting complete check-up. Now the engine feels pretty smooth, very happy with the outcome .

              On fitting back the fairing bike didn't have any vibrations but after about 200kms the DEVIL is back

              Things replaced in service along with price and part numbers (refer attachment) .

              Shell 10w40 Synthetic Engine Oil 800
              Brake & Clutch lever with buffing 240
              Clutch Cable 79
              Front Wheel Bearing 180 961306301010S
              Cone Set 356
              Air Filter 222
              Rear Wheel Bush 120
              Chain Sprocket Set 993
              Tensioner 440
              Front Mudguard clamp 82
              Labor 510
              Total 4022

              Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
              Well, now after bike is dry bike is running fine but started get a weird knocking on early morning start. All after pressure wash or just co-incidence.
              Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
              Weird knocking sounds? Does it vanish after the bike has run 2-3kms? And do observe if you get that sound while decelerating... and update
              Culprit of weird knocking - TENSIONER.

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              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
                I Got my bike serviced yesterday evening. Since then It's giving starting trouble. I need to throttle for the engine to start. Now I am facing a new issue : The instrument panel truns off and the FI indicator gets on when I press the Ingition button.

                They removed the fuel tank yesterday and adjusted the tappets. There must be a connection

                In Batman's style: The Helmet is not for you; It's to protect the people you care about.
                Most probably 02 sensor is disconnected by mistake and it went to open loop mode . Re-Check the wiring and clean & refit like Divya sharan said. Alternatively you can use WD40 to clean contacts (use emery paper but thats too much sometimes ).
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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Hi Friends,

                  Facing s strange issue, when ever I leave my bike ideal for couple days the front disk brake is has no action. It has lease bite left in it, but after few KMs ride the bike is back and working in normal state. This has happened after the disk kid (stuffs/parts that are there in the disk oil reserve chambers in the handle bar) change including the pad.

                  Has anyone faces similar faced similar problem, ASC guy told there should be some leakage in disk oil pipe. Please update / guide to thread if there is a known solution.

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                  Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                  Most probably 02 sensor is disconnected by mistake and it went to open loop mode . Re-Check the wiring and clean & refit like Divya sharan said. Alternatively you can use WD40 to clean contacts (use emery paper but thats too much sometimes ).
                  Check the battery life. Same happened to me, changing it solved the problem.

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Ambling slowly but steadily towards the target.

                    2 primary reasons:
                    a. Italian babe takes some count OFF the bike's ODO.
                    b. Office now is only 6.4 km away (one way). Weekend rides are on the decline.

                    But I shall hit the target in 2016!

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                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      Have you washed your bike recently? Maybe water causing a short circuit or a loose wire causing ground too.
                      Additionally, open the battery compartment and disconnect the battery as well as starter relay. Clean all points and apply Vaseline jelly on the battery terminals only (yup, the same one you apply on your lips) and refit the whole thing.
                      Ahhh!! I know what you mean
                      Splendor - 2k to 2006
                      Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                      P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                      Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                      ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                      RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                      Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                      RayZ - 2015 til now
                      Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                      Delhi to Narkanda
                      Delhi to Coimbatore
                      Delhi to Nepal

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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Thanx Guys. The guy tightened the tappets hence the starting and stalling problem. Forgot to mention the WHITE SMOKE from exhaust. Got them corrected.

                        The battery was weak hence the FI indicator. May be I overtried the self start for testing the starting problem. It literally got dud infront of the mechanic when I was explaining the problem. We had to charge it again to check the stalling issue. Took 2 days!!! for the whole thing.


                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        Clean all points and apply Vaseline jelly on the battery terminals only (yup, the same one you apply on your lips) and refit the whole thing.
                        Ha ha! Vaseline!! I didn't know it was such omnipotent. Also, I was thinking that since my bike had different cam shaft and piston, won't the tappet clearance differ from your bike?



                        Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                        Most probably 02 sensor is disconnected by mistake and it went to open loop mode . Re-Check the wiring and clean & refit like Divya sharan said. Alternatively you can use WD40 to clean contacts (use emery paper but thats too much sometimes ).
                        Sorry, What is 02 sensor? no Idea about that.

                        Originally posted by antan_shank;1203336
                        Check the battery life. Same happened to me, changing it solved the problem.
                        Bingo!!

                        Originally posted by Akkiben View Post
                        It's hard to figure out based on this problem description, however throttling to turn on engine while pushing starter button indicates a weak battery, and the fi lamp glows with a pattern of blinks. Also trouble shoot other factors like instrument cluster cable loose connectivity etc. etc. adjusting of tappets do not have relation to start unless it's very loosely set and poor timing, not entirely sure though.
                        Two things were clubbed! Week battery and Tight Tappets! Hence the confusion.
                        OWNERSHIP EXPERIENCE REVIEW of ZMR 2014 (with pics)

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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Which idiotic mech over tightened the tappets without setting any clearance? Adjusting the tappets is routine work for any mech, and it's quite an old procedure and mechs don't even use a feeler gauge showing how glib they are with their fingers, I'm surprised now. Well, there could be slight change in valve clearance but the process remains the same for any motorcycle. White smoke, caused by overtight or no clearance leading to no compression which resulted in knocking down or like you put it, stalling. To make matters worse you had a weak battery leading to fi malfunction lamp blinking. I seriously love this thread, it's full of interesting issues, and congratulations on getting this sorted.
                          Kinetic Honda ZX(2001)
                          Hero Honda CD100(1997)
                          TVS-Suzuki Shogun CAT(1998) Sold :(
                          TVS Scooty ES(2001)
                          Hero Honda Karizma ZMR(2010)
                          RX135 4S(2000)
                          RX135 5S(2000)
                          IND-SUZUKI AX100(1985)
                          LML-VESPA NV(1990) Sold
                          TVS-Suzuki Shogun(1994)

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                          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
                            Thanx Guys. The guy tightened the tappets hence the starting and stalling problem. Forgot to mention the WHITE SMOKE from exhaust. Got them corrected.
                            Congrats!

                            Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
                            I was thinking that since my bike had different cam shaft and piston, won't the tappet clearance differ from your bike?
                            Nope! It's the same.

                            Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
                            Sorry, What is 02 sensor? no Idea about that.
                            O2 sensor, also referred to as Lambda sensor reads the oxygen levels in the ambient surrounding (engine) and sets the air fuel ratio map accordingly and passes that info to the ECU. It's similar to automated AFR setting. Benefits of FI.
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                              Congrats!



                              Nope! It's the same.


                              O2 sensor, also referred to as Lambda sensor reads the oxygen levels in the ambient surrounding (engine) and sets the air fuel ratio map accordingly and passes that info to the ECU. It's similar to automated AFR setting. Benefits of FI.

                              Cool! Lot to learn about the machine!!!

                              Originally posted by Akkiben View Post
                              Which idiotic mech over tightened the tappets without setting any clearance? Adjusting the tappets is routine work for any mech, and it's quite an old procedure and mechs don't even use a feeler gauge showing how glib they are with their fingers, I'm surprised now. Well, there could be slight change in valve clearance but the process remains the same for any motorcycle. White smoke, caused by overtight or no clearance leading to no compression which resulted in knocking down or like you put it, stalling. To make matters worse you had a weak battery leading to fi malfunction lamp blinking. I seriously love this thread, it's full of interesting issues, and congratulations on getting this sorted.
                              Don't ask Who did and what did he do!!... [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]Sharan had told me numerous times to get this done using feeler gauge... but wahi baat, neglect. I was standing infront of him while he did the tappets, the first time but I neglected it and paid the price. This was a junior mech.

                              Every mech across all the SVCs are same....even the senior ones... To get it corrected I went to the supervisor, even he was shit. when I say it took 2 days bole toh I literally fought with him to get things done... you know what he said - Fuel Pump had gone bad!!!... He lied to me that while I was sitting in the customer lounge, he had already checked the tappets... I blasted on him for that.. then he was reluctant to use feeler gauge and so on!... I took the gauge and showed him 0.1 scale and asked him to use it, I checked thing myself too. Moreover I was standing there in the "authorised service centre" and fixing the fuel tank myself cos these guys are so careless that they had already put scratches on the faring while doing this stuff!!!... It's become a habit. 2 of the service stations are now vary of me and my bike :P
                              OWNERSHIP EXPERIENCE REVIEW of ZMR 2014 (with pics)

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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by srikanth kvnap View Post
                                2 of the service stations are now vary of me and my bike :P
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                                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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