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**kaynmantis** · 07-05-2011, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

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HID lights are good only for dry non humid and clear nights. If you have rain. fog etc., the light will scatter and you will find it difficult to see in the night..
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Thats right. Just a small correction. Its not HID perse. Its because of the colour temperature. Most shops sells only 6000k bulbs. Somewhere around 3500k-4200k will be ideal. This will bring the colour closer to halogen (yellowish). I have used 80 watts Halogen at 6000k as well (in my car). I could barely see the light. Currently I'm using 6000k HID. Much better than the halogen, though still sucks in rain. Searching for 4200k bulb now. The higher the temperature the lousier it performs, especially as you said.. in rain.

Note: HID in conventional headlight is not recommended as it blinds oncoming traffic. Conventional headlights are designed for halogen bulbs that has a thin filament as its source of light. The lights are reflected on the reflector at specific angles and throw it on the road. HID on other hand has its light source emitted from an arc chamber that is quite big compare to filament, so the reflection will not follow the exact pattern of a filament. Hence a lot of lights are dispersed that blinds oncoming traffic. It performs best in projector type headlights. I am using projectors.

**psr** · 07-05-2011, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post

Thats right. Just a small correction. Its not HID perse. Its because of the colour temperature. Most shops sells only 6000k bulbs. Somewhere around 3500k-4200k will be ideal. This will bring the colour closer to halogen (yellowish).
Yes true but how many users know of this and we have many China make HIDs which are above 5k kelvin....and every user is looking for cheaper HIDs..obviously Chinese..obviously above 5 K...and most users put a HID in the normal reflector set up...Cheap HID also emits high levels of UV....
Unlike the Halogen the HID is from a perpetual arc taking place in Metalic Salt/ Xenon,and so it is a non-continuous light.So scattering it is easy.
The best alternate is a Philips xtreme Halogen.

Note: HID in conventional headlight is not recommended as it blinds oncoming traffic. Conventional headlights are designed for halogen bulbs that has a thin filament as its source of light. The lights are reflected on the reflector at specific angles and throw it on the road. HID on other hand has its light source emitted from an arc chamber that is quite big compare to filament, so the reflection will not follow the exact pattern of a filament. Hence a lot of lights are dispersed that blinds oncoming traffic. It performs best in projector type headlights. I am using projectors.

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**kaynmantis** · 07-05-2011, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

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FYI The "Note" was not addressed to you. Its for general information for those who might care. You, of all person should be well versed with such things

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**psr** · 07-05-2011, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post

FYI The "Note" was not addressed to you. Its for general information for those who might care. You, of all person should be well versed with such things

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Ha ha ha you forget I am a learner,and would like to share what i learn.Your post was exact,and technically correct, so had to clarify on my general assumption (which was not)on the color temperature and visibility.Thanks for thinking that I have some knowledge on this

Your Post was more appropriate and to the point.

**Above_All** · 07-05-2011, 11:42 PM

kaynmantis & psr thanks for detailing out about HID. It will really helpful to decide hid temp.

By the way i wanted to get 1 pair from these 3 products

$11.90 - T10 3W 6000K 264-Lumen 44x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$11.80 - T10 3W 12V 304-Lumen 38x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulb (Pair) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$6.54 - T10 1.9W 6500K 171-Lumen 38-SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

Are they will fit in ZMR ? i am worried about there length ! is it gonna touch the reflector glass (plastic front cover) .
And i want a little bluish one which i think around 6000k but in any of these i can't figure out which one is that ! Can anyone help

**psr** · 07-05-2011, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

kaynmantis & psr thanks for detailing out about HID. It will really helpful to decide hid temp.

By the way i wanted to get 1 pair from these 3 products

$11.90 - T10 3W 6000K 264-Lumen 44x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$11.80 - T10 3W 12V 304-Lumen 38x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulb (Pair) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$6.54 - T10 1.9W 6500K 171-Lumen 38-SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

Are they will fit in ZMR ? i am worried about there length ! is it gonna touch the reflector glass (plastic front cover) .
And i want a little bluish one which i think around 6000k but in any of these i can't figure out which one is that ! Can anyone help

All are Wedge "bulbs" made out of SMD LEDs.meant for the City lights.
try to get 9 or 12 smd ones wich will be less in length and fit inside the reflector without touching the front glass.Blue color is banned and can be booked under law.

**SriramEfunds** · 07-06-2011, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

kaynmantis & psr thanks for detailing out about HID. It will really helpful to decide hid temp.

By the way i wanted to get 1 pair from these 3 products

$11.90 - T10 3W 6000K 264-Lumen 44x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$11.80 - T10 3W 12V 304-Lumen 38x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulb (Pair) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$6.54 - T10 1.9W 6500K 171-Lumen 38-SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

Are they will fit in ZMR ? i am worried about there length ! is it gonna touch the reflector glass (plastic front cover) .
And i want a little bluish one which i think around 6000k but in any of these i can't figure out which one is that ! Can anyone help

Go for Philips, satisfaction guaranteed !

Philips Vision LED W5W T10 4000K

Philips Blue Vision LED W5W T10 6000K

I have the led T10 4000k on my bike and I'm satisfied with the color temperature and the brightness is unbelievable.

The second one will have a tinge of Blue however, I did not opt since it would not match my headlight.

These are expensive but worth!

I'll not go for any unnamed Chinese products anymore.

Will post picture shortly.

**vvijkumar** · 07-06-2011, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

Go for Philips, satisfaction guaranteed !

Philips Vision LED W5W T10 4000K

Philips Blue Vision LED W5W T10 6000K

I have the led T10 4000k on my bike and I'm satisfied with the color temperature and the brightness is unbelievable.

The second one will have a tinge of Blue however, I did not opt since it would not match my headlight.

These are expensive but worth!

I'll not go for any unnamed Chinese products anymore.

Will post picture shortly.

Have you ordered them via internet or purchased locally?The site shows they are 30 pounds or whopping 2,138.92 INR

. I can procure a hid kit with that cost!!!

**Above_All** · 07-06-2011, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

All are Wedge "bulbs" made out of SMD LEDs.meant for the City lights.
try to get 9 or 12 smd ones wich will be less in length and fit inside the reflector without touching the front glass.Blue color is banned and can be booked under law.

I have the 9 in 1 smd led installed currently , but now boored with it & wanted the change.
Blue is banned ?

Thanks for letting know but i think they are just parking bulb & i want a little tingy blue as i have in my previous smd led . As in this picture

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

Go for Philips, satisfaction guaranteed !

Philips Vision LED W5W T10 4000K

Philips Blue Vision LED W5W T10 6000K

I have the led T10 4000k on my bike and I'm satisfied with the color temperature and the brightness is unbelievable.

The second one will have a tinge of Blue however, I did not opt since it would not match my headlight.

These are expensive but worth!

I'll not go for any unnamed Chinese products anymore.

Will post picture shortly.

Bro philips always rocks. But there cost is a bomb & i am not willing to pay such a big amount for the parking bulbs.

Surely it will nice to see the pics . How bright they are.

Originally posted by vvijkumar View Post

Have you ordered them via internet or purchased locally?The site shows they are 30 pounds or whopping 2,138.92 INR

. I can procure a hid kit with that cost!!!

Same here

**SriramEfunds** · 07-06-2011, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by vvijkumar View Post

Have you ordered them via internet or purchased locally?The site shows they are 30 pounds or whopping 2,138.92 INR

. I can procure a hid kit with that cost!!!

I bought them via internet and from carbulbsdirect.com and spent 30 whooping GBP. Result? Complete satisfaction, offcourse Philips has a name and standard, was able to see through this product.

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

Bro philips always rocks. But there cost is a bomb & i am not willing to pay such a big amount for the parking bulbs.

Surely it will nice to see the pics . How bright they are.

It's expensive. Even if I post a picture will not give true color unlike our eyes.

**veryhiphop** · 07-06-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

kaynmantis & psr thanks for detailing out about HID. It will really helpful to decide hid temp.

By the way i wanted to get 1 pair from these 3 products

$11.90 - T10 3W 6000K 264-Lumen 44x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$11.80 - T10 3W 12V 304-Lumen 38x3020 SMD LED Car White Light Bulb (Pair) - Car LED Light Bulbs

$6.54 - T10 1.9W 6500K 171-Lumen 38-SMD LED Car White Light Bulbs (Pair/DC 12V) - Car LED Light Bulbs

Are they will fit in ZMR ? i am worried about there length ! is it gonna touch the reflector glass (plastic front cover) .
And i want a little bluish one which i think around 6000k but in any of these i can't figure out which one is that ! Can anyone help

i think 2nd and 3rd are larger in size....check before you purchase..

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

I bought them via internet and from carbulbsdirect.com and spent 30 whooping GBP. Result? Complete satisfaction, offcourse Philips has a name and standard, was able to see through this product.

It's expensive. Even if I post a picture will not give true color unlike our eyes.

you bought it...dare stuff....spending more than 2,000 on a pilot leds...

**The Ghost Rider_Surendar** · 07-06-2011, 10:39 AM

Hi Friends!

Its been close to 2 months since I've been to Xbhp as office work kept me jam - packed

But took my day off from office yesterday and read all the comments posted in our group...

Really useful & highly technical information abt ZMR which almost half of the guys in SVC doesn't know abt the vehicle

PSR & SriramEfunds you both rock!!! Really wish to join ur training classes (If taught)

Feel really elated to be part of this group..

**veryhiphop** · 07-06-2011, 10:40 AM

There is an good offer for today on Formula 1 wax polish..

Formula 1 Car Care Kit

**The Ghost Rider_Surendar** · 07-06-2011, 11:14 AM

I'm planning to change my bike's headlights to 55/60 W 12 V Halogen bulb,
But SVC guys say that it will drain the battery & cause starting problems..

I'm really confused about it.. Kindly share your thoughts about it...

I enquired from a bike accesories shop and he showed me an Osram bulb which read as '55/60 W H4 P.R.C.U 12 V' and he demanded Rs.170 for it..

Is it worth buying or can I buy the halogen used for M800/Alto???

**psr** · 07-06-2011, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by The Ghost Rider_Surendar View Post

I'm planning to change my bike's headlights to 55/60 W 12 V Halogen bulb,
But SVC guys say that it will drain the battery & cause starting problems..

I'm really confused about it.. Kindly share your thoughts about it...

I enquired from a bike accesories shop and he showed me an Osram bulb which read as '55/60 W H4 P.R.C.U 12 V' and he demanded Rs.170 for it..

Is it worth buying or can I buy the halogen used for M800/Alto???

The Alternator capacity of ZMA is 188 watts and at 12 Volts it is =15 amps.
The Alternator capacity of ZMR is 238 watts and at 12 volts it is =19.83 amps.
The battery is there for self start, and for headlight and brake light supply ..at idle RPM....
IN ZMR battery is essential for the fuel pump to start working before the bike can be started.
50/60 Halogen will not tax the battery or electricals of both bikes...

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