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    Anyone using remote lock in ZMR?? If yes what is the best company??

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    • Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      When did u last change the air filter? Ideally, the mileage shouldn't decrease by more than 2-3 kmpl.
      airfiter change was done 10k km back.

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      • Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
        Hi

        Anyone using remote lock in ZMR?? If yes what is the best company??
        Autocop is decent.

        Originally posted by blizarder View Post
        airfiter change was done 10k km back.
        Then change the air filter. It must be changed every 8-10k kms.
        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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        • Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          Not true. ZMX gurus have already spoken above, so I think I don't have to explain. In ZMR's defense though, the plastics are as good/bad as they're on a ZMA!
          All semi/fully/bikini faired bikes (desi/foren bikes) have vibes if continually ridden on bad tarmac, period!
          Nah Divya, I do differ here big time even though I would love to defend a ZMR.. after all i too own one Body parts of ZMR is NO WAY of high quality material, be ot plastic or whatever... That was the first immediate thing which i got to feel the moment i touched my own ZMR in the showroom..

          Second ZMR does have vibrations...yeah it doesn't wobble though.. but there is vibration coz of 1) too much of plastic (dont ignore this) 2) not so good quality/thin plastic 3) not so good engineering on the joints (ex: HMC still believes in using clips as a joint method on thin plastic parts & such clips neither produce strong hold nor good finishing !! ) 4) more than affordable engine resonance (i don't really buy the long stroke excuse coz there are many more bikes beyond 223 cc in the world)

          Not all fully faired bikes vibrate.. definitely not an Yamaha or Honda or a Kawasaki Ninja or for that matter a bike from any big bro bike maker in the auto industry.. Put an R15 or a Ninja along side a ZMR & the difference in quality of body parts, holds would be so distinctly visible..

          Lets face it folks, HMC too falls under the "affordable power" category, very similar to Bajaj.. they have manufactured their bikes as per the Indian market.. It is only ZMR that is over priced if we compare bikes, one on one from both these makes..

          My Bikes:
          Yamaha RD (The one which taught me what riding is; Can never forget this one)
          Bajaj Caliber (The one closest to my heart; I still have it after 15 yrs !)
          Yamaha R15 V2.0 (The best I had; Ah it let me become the college hunk I once used to be :) )
          Hero Honda Karizma ZMR (The bike for the family man in me; The practical one; The current one)

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          • I have a 2011 ZMA, its seen hell, come back, and again taken back to hell, and till date the only plastic I broke was the one below the pillion seat on the shifter side, and that was cause I tried to push a bottle of sparkling water under the seat. The bike has had numerous spills but still fibers are in good shape. And I'm proud to say that all the fibers in the bike are the ones that came with it from factory. The vibes come from the engine, which is expected, after all its a single cylinder and mechanical imbalance is one of its trademark qualities. And do go about comparing it with the CBR250R cause the design used in the ZMA trail back to the 70's, where as the CBR is modern tech.
            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
              I And do go about comparing it with the CBR250R cause the design used in the ZMA trail back to the 70's, where as the CBR is modern tech.
              Yeah.. that's what.. HMC will have to upgrade the quality of parts & tech atleast for its premier bikes like ZMR or ZMA soon.. coz the competition is too high now & is only increasing.. A premier bike like ZMR can be served much better at a price tag of 1.2 lacs INR & we would for sure see a lot of difference in the next gen ZMRs... so far HMC so far has been able to launch new bikes with a minor change here n there in the same old bikes & has been able to sell them.. but HMC guys would be idiots (which i believe they are not) to believe that this pattern would continue to bring them equal amount business like prior times..

              My Bikes:
              Yamaha RD (The one which taught me what riding is; Can never forget this one)
              Bajaj Caliber (The one closest to my heart; I still have it after 15 yrs !)
              Yamaha R15 V2.0 (The best I had; Ah it let me become the college hunk I once used to be :) )
              Hero Honda Karizma ZMR (The bike for the family man in me; The practical one; The current one)

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              • Originally posted by Bibhudatta View Post
                Yeah.. that's what.. HMC will have to upgrade the quality of parts & tech atleast for its premier bikes like ZMR or ZMA soon.. coz the competition is too high now & is only increasing.. A premier bike like ZMR can be served much better at a price tag of 1.2 lacs INR & we would for sure see a lot of difference in the next gen ZMRs... so far HMC so far has been able to launch new bikes with a minor change here n there in the same old bikes & has been able to sell them.. but HMC guys would be idiots (which i believe they are not) to believe that this pattern would continue to bring them equal amount business like prior times..
                The Karizma was built for a purpose. You throw it into a pit and even then it'll ride on, its a robust machine, can withstand anything. Many have shifted to different bikes and some have even come back to the Karizma but they all agree upon one thing, you can put all your faith in it and be sure that it will never break down in the middle of nowhere. Hence why it rightfully owns the Sports Tourer tag. And you have to think of one thing, in a way the bike has a cult status of its own, how else would it still survive after more than a decade of its release.

                Just my thoughts and understandings.
                Motorcycling Experience:
                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                Adios Comrades!
                A.P. 2018

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                • Originally posted by Bibhudatta View Post
                  Nah Divya, I do differ here big time even though I would love to defend a ZMR.. after all i too own one Body parts of ZMR is NO WAY of high quality material, be ot plastic or whatever... That was the first immediate thing which i got to feel the moment i touched my own ZMR in the showroom..


                  Second ZMR does have vibrations...yeah it doesn't wobble though.. but there is vibration coz of 1) too much of plastic (dont ignore this) 2) not so good quality/thin plastic 3) not so good engineering on the joints (ex: HMC still believes in using clips as a joint method on thin plastic parts & such clips neither produce strong hold nor good finishing !! ) 4) more than affordable engine resonance (i don't really buy the long stroke excuse coz there are many more bikes beyond 223 cc in the world)


                  Not all fully faired bikes vibrate.. definitely not an Yamaha or Honda or a Kawasaki Ninja or for that matter a bike from any big bro bike maker in the auto industry.. Put an R15 or a Ninja along side a ZMR & the difference in quality of body parts, holds would be so distinctly visible..


                  Lets face it folks, HMC too falls under the "affordable power" category, very similar to Bajaj.. they have manufactured their bikes as per the Indian market.. It is only ZMR that is over priced if we compare bikes, one on one from both these makes..

                  Originally posted by Bibhudatta View Post
                  Yeah.. that's what.. HMC will have to upgrade the quality of parts & tech atleast for its premier bikes like ZMR or ZMA soon.. coz the competition is too high now & is only increasing.. A premier bike like ZMR can be served much better at a price tag of 1.2 lacs INR & we would for sure see a lot of difference in the next gen ZMRs... so far HMC so far has been able to launch new bikes with a minor change here n there in the same old bikes & has been able to sell them.. but HMC guys would be idiots (which i believe they are not) to believe that this pattern would continue to bring them equal amount business like prior times..

                  I'm not defending the ZMX series (Karizma) because I own one. I for myself have used foul words for that bulbous plastic fairing. DIYs involving removal of fairing is a PITA.
                  But, and a biiiiig but; the plastic quality is not at all poor.


                  I suffered a crash some 8 months back, when I slipped on a long continuous patch gravel and locked my wheel under panic braking over cow dung. I was in 60's IIRC.
                  The result --> bike dragged for some 20-25 feet before stopping against an auto. Damages - scratches on the fairing and a broken indicator.


                  Those scratches have been hidden by mere polishing. I'm not sure an R15/Ninja will survive such a crash.
                  And FYI, Ninja commands 28k for the fairing alone, hence we must expect it to have better quality. But I doubt those bikes have better plastic.


                  Yeah, joints on the karizma are badly designed.
                  Now this being a 10 year old bike, how can you expect it to have modern tech?


                  Hopefully, HMC leaves Karizma brand as it is and bring a new brand with newer tech!
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    The Karizma was built for a purpose. You throw it into a pit and even then it'll ride on, its a robust machine, can withstand anything. Many have shifted to different bikes and some have even come back to the Karizma but they all agree upon one thing, you can put all your faith in it and be sure that it will never break down in the middle of nowhere. Hence why it rightfully owns the Sports Tourer tag. And you have to think of one thing, in a way the bike has a cult status of its own, how else would it still survive after more than a decade of its release.

                    Just my thoughts and understandings.
                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    I'm not defending the ZMX series (Karizma) because I own one. I for myself have used foul words for that bulbous plastic fairing. DIYs involving removal of fairing is a PITA.
                    But, and a biiiiig but; the plastic quality is not at all poor.


                    Those scratches have been hidden by mere polishing. I'm not sure an R15/Ninja will survive such a crash.
                    And FYI, Ninja commands 28k for the fairing alone, hence we must expect it to have better quality. But I doubt those bikes have better plastic.


                    Yeah, joints on the karizma are badly designed.
                    Now this being a 10 year old bike, how can you expect it to have modern tech?


                    Hopefully, HMC leaves Karizma brand as it is and bring a new brand with newer tech!

                    Divya Bro, am not saying the plastic used in ZMR is so poor.. what i said was the plastic used is not so good & can definitely be served better at a price tag of 1.2 INR !! Come on Bro, it is our hard earned money !!!

                    & If not with a Ninja, I don't have any doubt on the quality & amount of plastic/fiber used on an R15 though.. a simple touch or press on the plastic would tell.. i remember the first time when i pressed some part on my ZMR, it immediately produced some loud music.. chawnnn, kit kit kit..

                    Ashwin Bro, There is no doubt that ZMA/ZMR engines have been proven work horses... But If any power bike in india has a REAL cult following it is one n only RE Bullet Whatever crap quality or outdated mechanics/tech RE might continue to use, there is just no second bike in India with a such cult status.. In the lower power segments though Yamaha RX100 was another & in the economy segment, it has been Hero-Honda CD-100 & Splendor with some cult following..

                    For long Hero (rather hero-honda) though has been a massive seller & has had infact the biggest customer base mainly bcoz of reliability & service.. Something which has helped it with making business out of whichever bike it has brought in to the market.. very similar to Maruti-Suzuki in the Indian car segment..

                    BTW, here are some good news which i was talking about...
                    Hero MotoCorp begins work on high-end bike model - Livemint

                    Hero Motor Corp 250cc bike in 2014 ~ Autogadget

                    My Bikes:
                    Yamaha RD (The one which taught me what riding is; Can never forget this one)
                    Bajaj Caliber (The one closest to my heart; I still have it after 15 yrs !)
                    Yamaha R15 V2.0 (The best I had; Ah it let me become the college hunk I once used to be :) )
                    Hero Honda Karizma ZMR (The bike for the family man in me; The practical one; The current one)

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                    • Can you guys please tell me what is the best engine oil to use in zmr??

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                      • Hero Honda's/Hero's spares have always been very expensive, right from the day 1

                        Originally posted by Chathuranga Rajapaksha View Post
                        Can you guys please tell me what is the best engine oil to use in zmr??
                        In my older karizma, I used to use the Petronas Sprinta fully synthetic. Worked like a charm!

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                        • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                          Hero Honda's/Hero's spares have always been very expensive, right from the day 1

                          In my older karizma, I used to use the Petronas Sprinta fully synthetic. Worked like a charm!
                          Agree to the expensive spares part. Petronas FS no longer available, at least in my area.
                          Options - Mobil1 10w40 FS / Motul 7100 10w40 FS
                          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                          • Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                            Petronas FS no longer available, at least in my area.
                            My mech was a retailer for petronas.. so it was kinda convenient for me

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                            • Originally posted by Chathuranga Rajapaksha View Post
                              Can you guys please tell me what is the best engine oil to use in zmr??
                              I m using Shell AX7 SS and its great.. Smooth and lasts 2000 to 2400KM...

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                              • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                                Hero Honda's/Hero's spares have always been very expensive, right from the day 1
                                Yes,the spares of Herohonda bikes are costly but, the quality of the spare parts are really good.I had changed the cone set and wheel bearing of my bajaj bike nearly 6-7 times in past 6 years and on my brother's herohonda bike it is changed only twice (used same road)and still it is working good without the khat-khat noise.Even if bajaj gives the spares at cheap price,the quality is not good.You wont get good quality spares at low cost for example yamaha,honda,kawasaki all have spare cost higher.In spares,it is bajaj that gives spare in low cost,but the durability is still a question.
                                The only part that I found in ZMR that is priced so high is the Disk pads....
                                Last edited by xwarrior; 02-21-2013, 06:01 PM.

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