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**rreneav1987** · 03-30-2013, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

never thought it would cost so much

how to check for alloy bend, can the bend be removed or replacement is the only solution ?

Well.. I guess they can remove the bend for Rs. 350.. they call it wheel alignment.. they said the same for my ZMR.. I said OK initially.. but when I saw the guys hitting the alloy wheels with a heavy hammer.. I was like.. aah.. guys.. i don't want the wheel alignment.. I will get it done later.. but here in Delhi NCR they are charging 350 to remove the bend.. but I guess that is for both front and back... check it out.. maybe its cheaper outside..

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

There's a catch. Karizma being a premium brand has expensive spares. In case, you want to preserve NCB on your bike (No Claim Bonus), you can go the CBZ Xtreme way.
The <2012 models had the same alloys as Kari. Costs 3500 approx. Best bet, PM phanikar and get the confirmation. He did the same a couple of months ago.

If its a minor bend, you can get it corrected at Pit Stop. Will set you back by 600 bucks AFAIK.

umm.. buddy.. do you mean to say that the <2012 Xtream has the digital console that the ZMR has?? I mean the speedometer console.. does the speedo cable have a sensor? (correct me if I am wrong as in Pulsars they have sensors which carry analog or digital signal to the speedometer) I mean.. if its gonna be the same analog cable.. then it will be fine.. else its not gonna work, right?? Also I guess the ZMR uses the Contact less cable

if its gonna fit the other alloy wheels then i guess you can go for it.. if that is the case.. can I go for any 17" alloy which might fit the ZMR without having to do any mods?? cos 17" alloys have better options for tires

**Divya Sharan** · 03-30-2013, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

umm.. buddy.. do you mean to say that the <2012 Xtream has the digital console that the ZMR has?? I mean the speedometer console.. does the speedo cable have a sensor? (correct me if I am wrong as in Pulsars they have sensors which carry analog or digital signal to the speedometer) I mean.. if its gonna be the same analog cable.. then it will be fine.. else its not gonna work, right?? Also I guess the ZMR uses the Contact less cable

if its gonna fit the other alloy wheels then i guess you can go for it.. if that is the case.. can I go for any 17" alloy which might fit the ZMR without having to do any mods?? cos 17" alloys have better options for tires

What I meant is that Karizma and the <2012 Xtreme use the same design/size alloys from the same manufacturer. But being different models, their part# are different and hence price varies.

A guy in Ashwin's group in KL has pulsar's alloys on his ZMA. But, that's reduce the GC as well as affect the dynamics of the bike.

**rreneav1987** · 03-31-2013, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

What I meant is that Karizma and the <2012 Xtreme use the same design/size alloys from the same manufacturer. But being different models, their part# are different and hence price varies.

A guy in Ashwin's group in KL has pulsar's alloys on his ZMA. But, that's reduce the GC as well as affect the dynamics of the bike.

Yes you are right.. the Karizma and the xtream used to share the same.. but the ZMR's alloy is different..

i mean.. not sure but thats what I think as this one has a digital console..

Snaps.. that sux.. I tot changing to 17" will make it better.. but like you said.. GC will reduce by an inch..

no other suggestions for this, right?

**Divya Sharan** · 03-31-2013, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Yes you are right.. the Karizma and the xtream used to share the same.. but the ZMR's alloy is different..

i mean.. not sure but thats what I think as this one has a digital console..

Pardon my noob mind, but how is the alloy related to digi/analog console?

**phanikar** · 03-31-2013, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

What I meant is that Karizma and the <2012 Xtreme use the same design/size alloys from the same manufacturer. But being different models, their part# are different and hence price varies.

Karizma and extreme alloys are compatible only for the rear, that includes post 2012 models as well. For the front only zma and zmr are suitable since the mounting points for the disc plate is different. Extreme has got a smaller disc plate .

**Jayakrishna** · 03-31-2013, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by phanikar View Post

Karizma and extreme alloys are compatible only for the rear, that includes post 2012 models as well. For the front only zma and zmr are suitable since the mounting points for the disc plate is different. Extreme has got a smaller disc plate .

Extreme has got dual disc models now....so only 2012 model's will suit for zma...alloy spoke designs also are different...need to check if rear fits on zmr....

Sent from my GT-I9082

**phanikar** · 03-31-2013, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Jayakrishna View Post

Extreme has got dual disc models now....so only 2012 model's will suit for zma...alloy spoke designs also are different...need to check if rear fits on zmr....

Sent from my GT-I9082

I meant the rear drum variant in the post 2012 extreme models jai. Yeah the alloy design is different but still compatible. Havent tried the new extreme alloys on the zmr. How about we try it on yours first

**Praj zm** · 03-31-2013, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

There's a catch. Karizma being a premium brand has expensive spares. In case, you want to preserve NCB on your bike (No Claim Bonus), you can go the CBZ Xtreme way.
The <2012 models had the same alloys as Kari. Costs 3500 approx. Best bet, PM phanikar and get the confirmation. He did the same a couple of months ago.

If its a minor bend, you can get it corrected at Pit Stop. Will set you back by 600 bucks AFAIK.

ya thanks dude
i will visit pit stop today and you remember telling you there was a screeching sound in the front disc at a particular point and i suspected a disc bend but it was actually the front wheel which has a bend to the best of my knowledge. anyways will get it checked today

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Well.. I guess they can remove the bend for Rs. 350.. they call it wheel alignment.. they said the same for my ZMR.. I said OK initially.. but when I saw the guys hitting the alloy wheels with a heavy hammer.. I was like.. aah.. guys.. i don't want the wheel alignment.. I will get it done later.. but here in Delhi NCR they are charging 350 to remove the bend.. but I guess that is for both front and back... check it out.. maybe its cheaper outside..

thanks for the input dude
i will get it checked today and pit stop mechs are professionals so not to worry, they are at least not going to use the hammer

**Jayakrishna** · 03-31-2013, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by phanikar View Post

I meant the rear drum variant in the post 2012 extreme models jai. Yeah the alloy design is different but still compatible. Havent tried the new extreme alloys on the zmr. How about we try it on yours first

Phani as long as u sponsor im ok with whatever tests/try you want to do....my zmr is all yours...

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**shivakrish** · 03-31-2013, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Thanks for the links, friends! Looks seriously good. HMC did one good job by changing that shade of red into something which better matches the Zimmer!
My BIL is buying one shortly and I had suggested the red color, but I was yet to see how the 'HMC Red' was different from the 'HH Red'. We took a TD for a black ZMR and apart from sticker and paint changes, I feel HMC has put in a slightly louder horn compared to HH. The rear brakes felt slightly more responsive compared to my friend's HH ZMR. Font on the console also seemed slightly different, not sure if I was hallucinating! (The 'welcome aboard the karizma' text message font)

hey bro, Be it HMC or HH the spares are always deficit especially for Red

so jus consider the fact seriously before getting a Red ZMR !!

**Above_All** · 03-31-2013, 11:12 AM

Anyone got 2012 edition ZMR ? Please post the picture of upper portion of key only , want to see if there is any change .

Coming to Tyre discussion , how are those MOGRIP tyre's from MRF ?

Originally posted by antan_shank View Post

Can I have the part number for the pair of stickers for white ZMR.

For white one part no. are

Strip R Fuel Tank = 17507AARH80ZB
Strip L Fuel Tank = 17508AARH80ZB

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

YI guess the stickers are the same for all the ZMRs

Originally posted by antan_shank View Post

I guess no, somebody mentioned it earlier in the blog but I can't find it.....

No they are different , just as Red , Black , White ZMR have Red "ZMR" sticker in different shades , these stickers also have different shades of Z & background according to body color . Check HMC webs for images .

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

A tiresome but fruitful 3 hours spent washing and detailing the bike.

Nice job . Who's cycles are there surronding ZMR ?

Originally posted by sibun View Post

Yes, HERO branded red looks better. As i have said before quality of products have changed after hero, the new paints are not only coming in better shade but the quality of finishing and shine is better.

I had took delivery of friends ZMR last saturday and i willpost the experience here in a day or two.

Sibun if possible post the picture of upper portion of Key want to see is there any difference ?

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

you can go the CBZ Xtreme way.
The <2012 models had the same alloys as Kari. Costs 3500 approx. Best bet, PM phanikar and get the confirmation. He did the same a couple of months ago.

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

umm.. buddy.. do you mean to say that the <2012 Xtream has the digital console that the ZMR has?? I mean the speedometer console.. does the speedo cable have a sensor? (correct me if I am wrong as in Pulsars they have sensors which carry analog or digital signal to the speedometer) I mean.. if its gonna be the same analog cable.. then it will be fine.. else its not gonna work, right?? Also I guess the ZMR uses the Contact less cable

if its gonna fit the other alloy wheels then i guess you can go for it..

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

What I meant is that Karizma and the <2012 Xtreme use the same design/size alloys from the same manufacturer. But being different models, their part# are different and hence price varies.

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Yes you are right.. the Karizma and the xtream used to share the same.. but the ZMR's alloy is different..

i mean.. not sure but thats what I think as this one has a digital console..

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Pardon my noob mind, but how is the alloy related to digi/analog console?

Originally posted by phanikar View Post

For the front only zma and zmr are suitable since the mounting points for the disc plate is different.

ZMR uses Sensor Assembly in front wheel for speedometer , while Karizma uses Gear box assembly for speedometer & Analog to Digital converter like unit . If anyone going for Karizma Alloy on ZMR then needs other those things too , which will turn out costly & give incorrect readings in speedo .

**rreneav1987** · 03-31-2013, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

ZMR uses Sensor Assembly in front wheel for speedometer , while Karizma uses Gear box assembly for speedometer & Analog to Digital converter like unit . If anyone going for Karizma Alloy on ZMR then needs other those things too , which will turn out costly & give incorrect readings in speedo .

Exactly..

if one wants to change the stock front alloy wheel of ZMR with any analog speedometer alloy they might have to change the console as well or else might have to do some mods which might lose the originality and the speed reading errors like you said..

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Pardon my noob mind, but how is the alloy related to digi/analog console?

The above statement by above all is what I have trying to say but I couldn't put it in words.. lol..

hope that answers your question buddy..

Same is the case with the <2012 Xtremes

Also the Speedo cable on the ZMR and other digital speedo meters are more like a wire than a cable.. if you ever noticed in an analogue speedometer (atleast of those bikes made in India) there will be an inner and an outer just like that of the clutch cable and the acceleration cable.. but for digital speedometers AFAIK have the sensor wires.. which reads the speed from the sensor in the alloywheel.. Please correct me if I am wrong guys

**shivakrish** · 03-31-2013, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Above_All View Post

Coming to Tyre discussion , how are those MOGRIP tyre's from MRF ?

I verified with the MRF dealer few days back,, they said Mogrip comes only for tyres above 150 profile !
and other than stock tyre ter aint any tubeless choice for us in the Mrf store

hope they launch Zapper Q Tubeless as said by #padfooty

**rreneav1987** · 03-31-2013, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by shivakrish View Post

I verified with the MRF dealer few days back,, they said Mogrip comes only for tyres above 150 profile !
and other than stock tyre ter aint any tubeless choice for us in the Mrf store

hope they launch Zapper Q Tubeless as said by #padfooty

I will check up with the MRF showroom here in Delhi NCR regarding the same and will let you guys know about it

**Divya Sharan** · 03-31-2013, 09:18 PM

Reneav and Above_all - Thanks for clearing my doubts regarding the alloy and speedo.

@ Above_all, those cycles belong to kids in my flat and the one along with ZMR is mine.

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