Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I don't think he ever meant that way... its just his point of view and i guess he is talking about the looks for this segment bikes..

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

i think brand war has started here....bhai logo...its all personal opinion and suggest not to take it forward now.....

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Lets not fight over bikes here. But a healthy debate is always good. Lets pray all bikes launched are equally good so that we customers get better machines due to competition.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Why do you guys always have 'speed' in your mind? Beat the competition means only speed? The comfort and mileage offered by zmr is already top in its class. Upgrading the other features like suspension and all would just make it more cool. Thats what was meant by everyone here. You really think we are so damn freakin dumb that you tell us upgrading the seats won't increase the speed??!! Are we so retarded?
And ya lets keep it as a healty discussion or a debate but not as an argument by making statements like the one which I have quoted. Speed is not the only criteria. Quality, comfort, maintenance, mileage, looks, road presence etc is what we are referring here. We don even give a rat's arse as to what is the top end of a kariZma as we all know its a lazy but bullet-proof engine whch does not rev to insane ranges till 10-11k rpms and is hence the least stressed.
That quote you made bro was not needed..

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

So fatter tyres and split seats will beat the competition by increasing mileage, reducing maintenence costs and provide better comfort for pillion.. I am sorry I had misread you that u were only talking about speed.


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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Never have I said that they increase mileage bro. I've never made any such statement. I said maintenance, looks, mileage, comfort, etc are also an important criteria for judging a bike. Not just speed. Where have I said that split seats and tyres increase performance? They only add to the looks which is pretty obvious. And why would I bother increasing the already-sexy mileage? Lol!! And yes you misread me that I was only talking about speed. As I said before, speed does not really matter to us cause in a day to day usage, you do not really go dragging, testing youe top end rite? Comfort and mileage is what you count on practically which this bike has more. Btw, why are we having this discussion? Fatter tyres, better shocks and other mods may make the bike 'look' good (not referring to speed incase you tend to misread again). That was what the member wanted to communicate and yes he said it right that it would beat the competition anyday NOT IN TERMS OF SPEED.

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I guess you are in a mood to argue.. lol.. dude.. grow up.. if you don't agree to something and to others opinion.. its better to be polite than to be sarcastic.. here.. fatter?? i never knew tires have fat.. oh.. you mean broader tires.. my bad.. ok.. so fatter (broader) tires gives the bike a better appearance.. especially in ZMR as the rear tail section is huge.. split seats again brings the curves on the seat making it look better.. now.. tell me which indian bike which is above 220cc gives a decent avg as the ZMR and which has a low maintenance as the Karizma/ZMR?? oh.. yeah.. I forgot.. Pulsars.. How can I forget.. the spare parts are very low in cost.. and yeah.. i have to visit the service center to get that low costing spare parts changed.. oops.. i have to pay the labor charges.. wow.. its been running fine for a month.. oops.. again i have to go get it changed.. again the labor charges.. My God.. this is hectic.. Oh Right.. you got any more points to argue up on?? bring it on..

respect each others opinion... my opinion is CBR 250 is going to go out of market soon as the Hero 250 is gonna be launched.. and it is already going to get a hit now that the Duke 390 is launched.. and yet.. wait for the P375.. Good bye CBR.. we don't need you any more.. you are not worth the money anymore.. "This is purely my Opinion" and well.. what can the people who can't afford those costly bikes?? well.. we settle down with the ZMR which is good enough for the Indian Roads..

Putting down a person or an owner is pretty easy with all those sarcastic comments.. i guess it is not his fault that you couldn't understand what he was trying to say..

Conclusion.. My Opinion.. - ZMR looks way better than any other bike in India.. do you have a problem with that?? if you do.. go get a life.. cos it ain't my problem..

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Don't lose your cool bro. Moreover, it'd be better you make amends to your post above. The forum is moderated, isn't it?

Coming to the extremely healthy discussion here, I'd say that the following things be changed in the ZMR so that it remains in the same price bracket as now:
1. Fairing redesign.
2. 110mm rear tire. Engine not strong enough for wider options.
3. Make 55w bulb standard.

Now I don't care for
1. Split seats - the present setup is comfy enough!
2. Monoshock - Agree, it delivers better corner ability, but the stock shocks are superb too.
3. Front USD forks - are they really needed? I'm not sure. I mean ZMR retails sub 1.2L in most places, one can't have everything at any price right?

Finally, lets see what pops out of HMC? A 250cc single, 27 bhp at crank making 24 Nm torque would be something I'd love to see.
And of course, it should cost 1.5L ex shwrm DL.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Bro.. you forgot the battery I am facing issues with the battery

The USD front shockers do look cool, don't you think so??

engine to be tuned a bit more to meet the 110mm segment tires..

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I haven't faced issues with the battery much, still running on stock ones, but yes HMC must at least put 8AH battery. USD forks do look good, but I'm not sure how better w.r.t normal forks would they serve on typical Indian roads.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

along with the above i would like to have liquid cool engine....tail section to be redesigned...more torque...and BHP....

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

That would lead to a price hike. Liquid cooling itself will bump up the price by a good margin. I'd love to have it, but my pointers were in line with the present retail price.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I would love it if they can somehow try and reduce the weight of the bike to 150kgs like the karizma removing some unwanted metal from Chassis if any.. a smaller exhaust (which can easily reduce the weight by 2-4 kgs.. under seat materials can be reduced.. etc etc.. just my point of view.. but reducing the weight of the bike will definitely increase the performance that can be noticeable.. what say?

Liquid cooling would be cool.. but that will increase the weight of the bike.. which in turn will affect the performance..

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

That's why I mentioned a fairing redesign. How do you think that KariZMR gained 9 kgs over KariZMA? The fairing is at least 5 kgs itself, rest being taken by the rear disc, FI system and stuff. Optimize the design. A few tweaks here and there. And HMC, please give us a practical fairing this time (ala R15 - its a modular fairing made of multiple parts rather than our big 2 piece fairing).

A chassis redesign again would give them excuses to raise the prices. Its a diamond frame IIRC. They can however bring an underbelly exhaust. Here go 6 kgs straight away!

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

So After my Salary is credited,

I will get the following things set right..

Rear disc pad - 1200 (approx)
Front Fender holder - 250 (approx)
Battery (if possible, I will get the Karizma's battery cage) - 1800 (Approx)
get the vibrations checked.
Get Rimula R4 (another 3ltrs) - 900 (approx)
Air Filter - I forgot the cost of the stock ones.. please update me