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  • #12916
    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

    BP petrol bunk, beside Vaibhav theatre, Sanjaynagar.
    OMG! In searching the whole of Bangalore, I forgot that there's a BP in sanjay nagar. Thanks bro!

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    ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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    • #12917
      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      That means you'd locked the front.

      Then you're extremely lucky that you let go of the brakes in time. Front wheel locks are far more dangerous than rear wheel locks.
      WCS, what do you think are the possible outcomes of a locked front wheel?
      Last edited by kmk0311; 02-13-2014, 08:35 PM.

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      • #12918
        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post
        WCS, what do you think are the possible outcomes of a locked front wheel?
        Lock the front wheel (with front still sliding) and now the rear wheel moving faster than the front,wants to overtake the front wheel. This makes the rear of your bike spin around,with front wheel as its centre. This throws you out of control and can even throw you out of the bike.. Physics
        Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "

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        • #12919
          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          There are many variables to brake's efficiency ....Some manufacturers opt for different 1st and 2nd Piston size for specific purpose, while some stick to conventional same size pistons in Caliper...some have greater Master to slave ratio,while some have lesser ratio, some use Organic pad compound while some use Sintered metal to Kevlar,to Ceramic,... some use Floating Caliper while others prefer Radial fixed ones,...like this there are many permutation combinations, apart from the ever changing human reactions, and the heat fade...
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • #12920
            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
            Lock the front wheel (with front still sliding) and now the rear wheel moving faster than the front,wants to overtake the front wheel. This makes the rear of your bike spin around,with front wheel as its centre. This throws you out of control and can even throw you out of the bike.. Physics
            Realized something dangerous would happen.. so I let go off the front brake, brought the bike to its normal position and braked again, which saved me from going and crashing somewhere.
            Thank you for the detailed explanation btw, scholar.

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            • #12921
              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post
              Realized something dangerous would happen.. so I let go off the front brake, brought the bike to its normal position and braked again, which saved me from going and crashing somewhere.
              Thank you for the detailed explanation btw, scholar.
              Buy the XBHP magazine. You get the MAX edition along with it which helps you in preparing yourself and your bike and gives lots of information. The rear wheel overtaking the front etc, etc funda is explained beautifully in that. And i guess he has taken out the quotes from the very book, if am not mistaken.. Good one
              ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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              • #12922
                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                Thanks for the useful gyaan Saquib bhai. Loved the banter though!
                BTW, ZMR also has dual piston calipers IMO.
                Yes front is dual and rear is single piston...same with R15 as well..

                All hail to Nissin on both bikes...

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                One who gets onto the road is never alone.

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                • #12923
                  Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by Jayakrishna View Post
                  Yes front is dual and rear is single piston...same with R15 as well..

                  All hail to Nissin on both bikes...

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                  Only the 1k price tag of single set of brake pads kills me everytime i change.. Brembo pads costs around 200-250 :/
                  Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "

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                  • #12924
                    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
                    Only the 1k price tag of single set of brake pads kills me everytime i change.. Brembo pads costs around 200-250 :/
                    I feel quality comes at a price. Also, Pulsars use Bybre, not Brembo. (Sister manufacturers).
                    Nissin pads last longer compared to Bybre.
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • #12925
                      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      I experienced front wheel lock dat too wid pillion onboard 3 times while on a beautiful ride out near kaziranga national park. Each time happend @ a speedbreaker. Very scary. Lone rides are much less scary. But, wid pillion onboard things become much more difficult. Requires some steering maneouvres.

                      Also, can nyone tell me whether honda is bringing the cbr 250 or 300 r to india?

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                      • #12926
                        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post
                        I experienced front wheel lock dat too wid pillion onboard 3 times while on a beautiful ride out near kaziranga national park. Each time happend @ a speedbreaker. Very scary. Lone rides are much less scary. But, wid pillion onboard things become much more difficult. Requires some steering maneouvres.

                        Also, can nyone tell me whether honda is bringing the cbr 250 or 300 r to india?

                        Sent from my Xperia Z1 using Tapatalk
                        how do you guys manage to Lock the wheel.. That too a front wheel?? the front wheel lock never happened for me except for a couple of times when I intentionally did it... with a pillion, I never apply the front brake too hard, instead apply both the rear and the front brakes..

                        well, I did have to lock the front wheel once to avoid an accident where a cycle wala came in front of me crossing the road.. Though I had control of the bike, i did do a panic braking. it happened all of a sudden..
                        Splendor - 2k to 2006
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                        P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                        Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                        ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                        RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                        Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                        RayZ - 2015 til now
                        Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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                        • #12927
                          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Going through the last two days of thread, and i wanted to share same incidents too regarding braking/ fishtailing on few occasions, I have a habit of applying front disc brake first and then the rear brake (disc in ZMR) in all motorcycles which I've used so far and then for urgent stopping combination of both brakes, as far as ZMR braking concern it is above average no doubt but not that prominent, but still I can't produce same amount of confidence while braking which I used to have on my RTR it may be my personal opinion, anyone can throw some input here? tomorrow i might visit SVC again for braking issue....

                          changing the braking pads of RTR 180 are direct fit or are they even compatible? will it help in braking? @psr sir or @Divya Sharan need to your help.

                          Thanks
                          Last edited by AmoghDox; 02-14-2014, 12:27 PM.
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                          • #12928
                            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by AmoghDox View Post
                            Going through the last two days of thread, and i wanted to share same incidents too regarding braking/ fishtailing on few occasions, I have a habit of applying front disc brake first and then the rear brake (disc in ZMR) in all motorcycles which I've used so far and then for urgent stopping combination of both brakes, as far as ZMR braking concern it is above average no doubt but not that prominent, but still I can't produce same amount of confidence while braking which I used to have on my RTR it may be my personal opinion, anyone can throw some input here? tomorrow i might visit SVC again for braking issue....

                            changing the braking pads of RTR 180 are direct fit or are they even compatible? will it help in braking? @psr sir or @Divya Sharan need to your help.

                            Thanks
                            RTR's pads are a direct fit, but the bite would be even less.
                            What you're missing on the ZMR is RTR's brake feel. As soon as you press the lever, it bites! Karizma has a linear braking mechanism, slight press - slight braking; harder press - harder braking. You need to get acquainted with it.
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                            • #12929
                              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                              RTR's pads are a direct fit, but the bite would be even less.
                              What you're missing on the ZMR is RTR's brake feel. As soon as you press the lever, it bites! Karizma has a linear braking mechanism, slight press - slight braking; harder press - harder braking. You need to get acquainted with it.
                              I am using RTR pads. I mean Brake Pads i didnt have money to get the stock Karizma brake pads. I must tell you, the braking is not effective and it behaves like ABS. I mean, the wheels dont get locked even when braked hard and at the same time, the bike doesnt stop.. i am waiting for my salary to get them changed.

                              Recently, i have been hearing some sqeaking sound from the rear. Its fast when bike is moving fast and slow when moving slow. I have to get it lubricated..

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                              Splendor - 2k to 2006
                              Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                              P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                              Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                              ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                              RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                              Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                              RayZ - 2015 til now
                              Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                              Delhi to Narkanda
                              Delhi to Coimbatore
                              Delhi to Nepal

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                              • #12930
                                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                                Recently, i have been hearing some sqeaking sound from the rear. Its fast when bike is moving fast and slow when moving slow. I have to get it lubricated..
                                Either the pads are worn out or they're out of alignment touching the disc all the time! Get the whole stem opened and piston cleaned and lubed. With time the pads start glazing. Using a 50 grade sandpaper to scrub the pads slightly helps.
                                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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