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**rreneav1987** · 10-27-2014, 04:45 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

Why not try eBay man? They have most everything. Try both India and UK/US sites. Lots off cool stuff there.

LoL.. I am good at that and I have done many purchases online

but the fact is, the RVMs listed on ebay cost a bomb shell

I prefer to spend 600 and get both mirrors changed than spend 3000

I am at a crisis at the moment

**Akkiben** · 10-27-2014, 04:47 PM

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Hehehe.. very true..

Thats why I moved to Mineral Oil from Semi Synthetic

Using Gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40 and the oil did wonders for my bike.. keeping the engine cool and vib free.. in-fact found it better than the AX7 which I was using for more than 6000 kms.. I have infact completed 3000 kms with Gulf in a span of one month

Oil is perfect and I would recommend it to any ZMR owner

Well, I'm not sure of this but isn't it not a rule of thumb to stick to the oil grade recommended by manufacturer, I had been using 15w50 semi synth ester by motul for more than 8k Kms and found it good initially especially during gear shifts for the first 500kms but gradually the oil seemed to deteriorate and lost its viscosity at 1400kms which I always found strange as these SS oils were meant for longer drain intervals. Finally I decided to get back to stock HH oil 10w30 mineral oil JASOMA and SAE tide water standards and will change at every 1800-2000kms. Experts feel free to input your thoughts....

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**kmk0311** · 10-27-2014, 04:48 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

buddy, did you inspect the Drain bolt for any damage??

This was the condition of my drain bolt which caused oil leakage..

which oil are you using? Grade of the synthetic oil please?

never mix different grade oils in your bike.. how much oil was reduced?? can you get a pic of the under belly of your bike's engine??

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Automotive legends say that FS oils eat up seals and O rings. But yours is a new(er) vehicle in terms of mileage.
Post few pics after removing the fairing. Want to see the entire engine bay/area/whatever!

Also, post a pic of your drain bolt.

Brothers.. I changed to full synthetic oil at 10800 kms. Its motul 7100 10w40. I used 10w30 stock hero oil to top up as I had only that at home and I got paranoid when I found out the oil level reduced below the min level.. I had filled it Upto the mid of min and max level..

The drain bolt is a new one. I bought the drain bolt and the oil filter.

Anyways I'll upload the pics later, I'm outside now.. :/

**rreneav1987** · 10-27-2014, 04:58 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Akkiben View Post

Well, I'm not sure of this but isn't it not a rule of thumb to stick to the oil grade recommended by manufacturer, I had been using 15w50 semi synth ester by motul for more than 8k Kms and found it good initially especially during gear shifts for the first 500kms but gradually the oil seemed to deteriorate and lost its viscosity at 1400kms which I always found strange as these SS oils were meant for longer drain intervals. Finally I decided to get back to stock HH oil 10w30 mineral oil JASOMA and SAE tide water standards and will change at every 1800-2000kms. Experts feel free to input your thoughts....

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Originally, all the Hero Honda bikes used to use Oil Grade of 20W40.. I remember when I used to get the Engine Oil changed for my old 2003 Karizma and Splendor, they used to give 20W40 oil grade in Hero.. I cannot use 10W30 for my bike at the moment as oil seal and piston rings have become weak and I don't have money to get that fixed at the moment. I want to save 15000/- before I open up the head to get the piston rings and oil seals changed. so that in case I have to get the cylinder kit changed, I won't be stuck without a bike..

Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post

Brothers.. I changed to full synthetic oil at 10800 kms. Its motul 7100 10w40. I used 10w30 stock hero oil to top up as I had only that at home and I got paranoid when I found out the oil level reduced below the min level.. I had filled it Upto the mid of min and max level..

The drain bolt is a new one. I bought the drain bolt and the oil filter.

Anyways I'll upload the pics later, I'm outside now.. :/

Is the oil level below minimum after a rest of minimum 30 minutes in main stand or immediately after parking the bike in main stand after a short ride or after starting the bike for few seconds..?? have you been changing the Engine Oil on time? is there any leakage of oil on the floor where the bike is parked? or is it the bike is eating up oil? Is there any sign of smoke from the exhaust? can you red line the bike and see if there is any smoke visible from the exhaust? Please check this and come back with pics as requested.

Cheers,
Reneav

**kmk0311** · 10-27-2014, 05:26 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Is the oil level below minimum after a rest of minimum 30 minutes in main stand or immediately after parking the bike in main stand after a short ride or after starting the bike for few seconds..?? have you been changing the Engine Oil on time? is there any leakage of oil on the floor where the bike is parked? or is it the bike is eating up oil? Is there any sign of smoke from the exhaust? can you red line the bike and see if there is any smoke visible from the exhaust? Please check this and come back with pics as requested.

Cheers,
Reneav

The oil is below the minimum level right after I switch off the bike, parked in the side stand.

Yes, I've been changing the oil at regular intervals religiously.
This problem has cropped up only after changing to full synthetic oil.

Earlier before using the o ring, there used to be like 5 drops every time I park the bike after a ride. But after using the o ring, the oil just leaks and if you touch the o ring there are few drops present, but it doesn't drop on the floor..

I can redline the bike with ease, and there is no visible smoke from the exhaust..

**rreneav1987** · 10-27-2014, 05:28 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post

The oil is below the minimum level right after I switch off the bike, parked in the side stand.

Yes, I've been changing the oil at regular intervals religiously.
This problem has cropped up only after changing to full synthetic oil.

Earlier before using the o ring, there used to be like 5 drops every time I park the bike after a ride. But after using the o ring, the oil just leaks and if you touch the o ring there are few drops present, but it doesn't drop on the floor..

I can redline the bike with ease, and there is no visible smoke from the exhaust..

Ok, so it is time for you to change your engine oil and see

use mineral oil for some time.. I suggest you go for Gulf Pride 4T 20W40 or Hero Engine Oil.. they both will cost you almost the same..

1. Never check the oil level when the bike rests on side stand. Reason, all the oil in the engine goes to left side of the engine. where as the dip stick is located on the right side..
2. Never check the oil level immediately after you park your bike after start.. give it some 30 minutes time for the oil to settle down.. so that the dip stick will give you a proper level..
3. make sure the bike is parked in main stand and make sure the level is even. I use an app called Jack of tools to check the level of the bike after which I check the oil level..

**Balgi** · 10-27-2014, 05:45 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

LoL.. I am good at that and I have done many purchases online

but the fact is, the RVMs listed on ebay cost a bomb shell

I prefer to spend 600 and get both mirrors changed than spend 3000

I am at a crisis at the moment

True dat. I saw this site called Indiamart or something. Its meant for bike and car spares and accessories only. Check that out.

**Divya Sharan** · 10-27-2014, 06:11 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

1. Never check the oil level when the bike rests on side stand. Reason, all the oil in the engine goes to left side of the engine. where as the dip stick is located on the right side..
2. Never check the oil level immediately after you park your bike after start.. give it some 30 minutes time for the oil to settle down.. so that the dip stick will give you a proper level..
3. make sure the bike is parked in main stand and make sure the level is even. I use an app called Jack of tools to check the level of the bike after which I check the oil level..

Very very wise words. Aye aye captain!

I see you've gotten wiser already with a month to spare!

**rreneav1987** · 10-27-2014, 06:14 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Very very wise words. Aye aye captain!

I see you've gotten wiser already with a month to spare!

lol

exactly a month

BTW.. all this wise words have been copy pasted from you and [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir's advice

so it is both you and psr sir who are wise

**sarkartheruler** · 10-27-2014, 07:16 PM

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Can we check the engine oil level early in the morning without starting the bike?

My clock and Tripmeters are resetting nearly every time I turn on the key after few hours. Please suggest what could be wrong. Is it time to change battery?

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**rreneav1987** · 10-27-2014, 07:17 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by sarkartheruler View Post

Can we check the engine oil level early in the morning without starting the bike?

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Yes. Provided you leave the bike in main stand over the night.. that 30 minutes stuff was to let the oil settle down to get a proper reading.

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**kmk0311** · 10-27-2014, 08:02 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Ok, so it is time for you to change your engine oil and see

use mineral oil for some time.. I suggest you go for Gulf Pride 4T 20W40 or Hero Engine Oil.. they both will cost you almost the same..

Already ah?? I changed the oil at 10700 kms and the odo is now 11300 :/ and I spent 800 bucks on it 😕

**rreneav1987** · 10-27-2014, 08:12 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by kmk0311 View Post

Already ah?? I changed the oil at 10700 kms and the odo is now 11300 :/ and I spent 800 bucks on it 😕

Is 800 bigger or 17000 bigger?

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**Balgi** · 10-27-2014, 09:49 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by sarkartheruler View Post

Can we check the engine oil level early in the morning without starting the bike?

My clock and Tripmeters are resetting nearly every time I turn on the key after few hours. Please suggest what could be wrong. Is it time to change battery?

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Yes you can check the oil in the morning without starting it.
The battery may not be at fault if all else works well. Check instead the meter for any loose connection. Also check fuses and wiring.

**Divya Sharan** · 10-28-2014, 12:43 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by sarkartheruler View Post

My clock and Tripmeters are resetting nearly every time I turn on the key after few hours. Please suggest what could be wrong. Is it time to change battery?

1. Check all wires and joints to rule out loose connections.
2. Put a new battery to actually determine if the old one is dead.
Applicable only if you have a multimeter handy.
3. Check if the potential across the terminals without the bike switched on (I mean, ignition ON, starter OFF) is greater than 12V or not. If not, change battery.

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