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**rx100.7050** · 04-09-2009, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Aryan View Post

@RX: Good to see the black P220 back in action, and looks as good as new!

Thanks! It sure does. After the polish it looks like AWESOME BABE. Note : they are still using NIRMA. I got it water washed only, no NIRMA treatment for my bike. Would rather use DOVE

**Shivanshu** · 04-09-2009, 11:30 AM

Good going rx100.7050, she looks shining new and beautiful....keep it up bro

**Sarvajit** · 04-09-2009, 11:32 AM

My friend who has a 1 year old P220 yesterday came&showed me his bike. I could see black oil stains all over the engine front part! It was not even idling properly. When I tried to check the oil level, I understood that there was no dipstick system on the right side, so I looked into the glass on the left side, to find that I could see no oil there!

I told him the oil seal must have given way&engine oil must have leaked out. What do you guys think?

**Praful** · 04-09-2009, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

My friend who has a 1 year old P220 yesterday came&showed me his bike. I could see black oil stains all over the engine front part! It was not even idling properly. When I tried to check the oil level, I understood that there was no dipstick system on the right side, so I looked into the glass on the left side, to find that I could see no oil there!

I told him the oil seal must have given way&engine oil must have leaked out. What do you guys think?

The bike needs to be left standing for some time so that oil trickles back. Ideally as soon as you shut off the engine you should see atleast some amount of oil thru the window.

**niks_devil666** · 04-09-2009, 11:48 AM

@praful : a quick question , I had some motul oil put by SC , I can top it up (say 50-100ml) with any other oil right?

**Aryan** · 04-09-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

The bike needs to be left standing for some time so that oil trickles back. Ideally as soon as you shut off the engine you should see atleast some amount of oil thru the window.

Yes, precisely. This can actually scare the crap out of someone who is not used to gauging the engine oil level through that glass 'window'. I was used to the dip-stick on my P180 Classic, and was really shocked to see that there was NO engine oil when I saw in the 'window'.

But, after the engine is shut off, slowly the engine oil trickles down. It gives one heart-stopping moments!

@Sarvajit: The engine oil leaking is pretty common in Pulsars. There is a sealant which the Bajaj guys use to stop the same.

**Praful** · 04-09-2009, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

@praful : a quick question , I had some motul oil put by SC , I can top it up (say 50-100ml) with any other oil right?

Dude no oil guru here, but if the rating (i.e. 20W50, 15W50) is the same and so is the chemical buildup (ie. Mineral, Semi-Synth, Synth) then yes you can mix different brands!

But ideally from what I've read, one should not mix different rating oils as the resultant rating might not be as prescribed by the manufacturer.

**niks_devil666** · 04-09-2009, 11:53 AM

The rating is same , 20w50 , but not sure what the SC guys put , mineral I guess , the one I have is valvoline semi synthetic (not sure

) .

**Praful** · 04-09-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

The rating is same , 20w50 , but not sure what the SC guys put , mineral I guess , the one I have is valvoline semi synthetic (not sure

) .

The SC guys *usually* put in 20W50 Mineral oil, unless asked otherwise.

IIRC VP4T is a 15W50 oil and is semi-synth, would not recommend mixing that with SC oil. I could be wrong though. Drain the SC oil and put the new valvo dude, its a good oil!

**Sarvajit** · 04-09-2009, 12:03 PM

@Aryan&Praful: Thanks guys, I will check it this evening&ask him to get the oil sealant also applied.

**pranay** · 04-09-2009, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

@praful : a quick question , I had some motul oil put by SC , I can top it up (say 50-100ml) with any other oil right?

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

Dude no oil guru here, but if the rating (i.e. 20W50, 15W50) is the same and so is the chemical buildup (ie. Mineral, Semi-Synth, Synth) then yes you can mix different brands!

But ideally from what I've read, one should not mix different rating oils as the resultant rating might not be as prescribed by the manufacturer.

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

The rating is same , 20w50 , but not sure what the SC guys put , mineral I guess , the one I have is valvoline semi synthetic (not sure

) .

Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post

The SC guys *usually* put in 20W50 Mineral oil, unless asked otherwise.

IIRC VP4T is a 15W50 oil and is semi-synth, would not recommend mixing that with SC oil. I could be wrong though. Drain the SC oil and put the new valvo dude, its a good oil!

Just to clarify this really quickly, niks, I had toped up fully synthetic oil (Motul 300V) with the normal grade Castrol when the odo was reading 2500 kms (1000ml Motul + 200 ml topup). I have been running it for 9000 kms. There has been no issues until now and the engine still butter smooth.

P.S: I didn't experiment in this matter. I had re searched in the internet about mixing fully synthetic oils with conventional oils. All the responses I saw said it was safe.

**Mik** · 04-09-2009, 12:46 PM

@Niks: Due to a leakage problem i had also topped up with a different oil one week back. Elf + Castrol Activ 4T topup.

Had no issues unless you count cows targetting my bike as an engine oil issue

**niks_devil666** · 04-09-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Mik View Post

Had no issues unless you count cows targetting my bike as an engine oil issue

Are you still in trauma?

I am not sure whts the oil level in my bike , will check today , its been only 1400kms since last service.

**andy.rebels** · 04-09-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

Are you still in trauma?

I am not sure whts the oil level in my bike , will check today , its been only 1400kms since last service.

Niks i have sent you a message reply on that...

**Mik** · 04-09-2009, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by niks_devil666 View Post

Are you still in trauma?

I am not sure whts the oil level in my bike , will check today , its been only 1400kms since last service.

What trauma!!! I feel like doing cow slaughter and exporting the meat to america

1400km + XXXX km hopefully naa.. get it topped up. and if possible get a basic service like cleaning of filters etc done.

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