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  • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

    Took my bike to Bajaj showroom to enquire about the hiccups. It sometimes feels as if not enough fuel is going to the engine. The head service guy took a test ride and said tuning wont do any help, problem is in fuel pump or injector and said pump would cost ₹4000 and injector would cost ₹2000. I took my bike and came home.
    Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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    • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

      Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
      Took my bike to Bajaj showroom to enquire about the hiccups. It sometimes feels as if not enough fuel is going to the engine. The head service guy took a test ride and said tuning wont do any help, problem is in fuel pump or injector and said pump would cost ₹4000 and injector would cost ₹2000. I took my bike and came home.
      I own a pulsar As 150 and I feel the same problem sometime.... BT it doesn't have a fi so... Wat should I change ? The whole cab ?

      That's insane
      It doesnt matter how hard you twist , what matter is when you twist

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      • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

        Updating a very old thread for a very old machine.

        Visited xbhp after ages and I had to come to my favorite thread of all times!

        My bike is close to 9 years old and have clocked a very slow 61k kms .

        I went on a ride after a long gap of over 2 years, in feb this year , the old fella is still a good touring machine! Did a 1000kms round trip with 250 odd hair pin bends in total in 2 days and I thoroughly enjoyed riding the P220 all over again! Though the bike feels slow and less safe on the 4 lane / 6 lane highways these days!

        This is the circuit I did BLR - MYS - Bandipur - Mudumalai - Theppakadu - Ooty - Lovedale - Manjur - Geddai - Mulli - Avinashi - Perundurai - Namakkal - Kolli Malai and back - Salem - Krishnagiri - BLR

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        • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

          Originally posted by M@n()J View Post
          Updating a very old thread for a very old machine.

          Nice to have this thread revived with pictures of this bike still going strong
          Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

          Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

          Touring Blog: Cycling in Mongolia!

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          • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

            Originally posted by M@n()J View Post
            Updating a very old thread for a very old machine.
            Good to see you and the Blue 220 back on the road.

            I just revived my 220 from slumber too. It was lying parked since sometime in the middle of Feb as the starter clutch had broken, and I felt totally disinterested in getting it fixed up.
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            • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

              Originally posted by The Monk View Post
              Nice to have this thread revived with pictures of this bike still going strong
              Thanks man!

              Originally posted by Praful View Post
              Good to see you and the Blue 220 back on the road.

              I just revived my 220 from slumber too. It was lying parked since sometime in the middle of Feb as the starter clutch had broken, and I felt totally disinterested in getting it fixed up.
              Thanks buddy!

              Oh man, my bike also seem to be having issues with starter clutch or the battery. During cold starts the infamous krrrrr krrrr sound comes up sometimes. Planning to get the battery changed first as it has been over 3 years on current battery , but as you said feeling disinterested to change something on this old machine. Its like a money sucking machine for past 2-3 years though the riding has been very low for me.

              Other stuff that needs replacement cone set and front brake caliper. The CO setting also needs to be checked and calibrated as I don't remember when was it set last time, been ages since I visited a Bajaj service center.

              Took a test ride of Dominar and the guy there quoted at the max 20-23k for the P220 in exchange. Seems a good deal??

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              • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                Originally posted by M@n()J View Post
                Oh man, my bike also seem to be having issues with starter clutch or the battery. During cold starts the infamous krrrrr krrrr sound comes up sometimes.
                Sounds like a battery issue. My starter clutch had disintegrated and was making mixer grinder like sounds while the bike was running.

                Originally posted by M@n()J View Post
                Planning to get the battery changed first as it has been over 3 years on current battery
                If you are keeping the bike for another 2-3 years, get Amaron. Else get anything else, doesn't matter.



                Originally posted by M@n()J View Post
                Took a test ride of Dominar and the guy there quoted at the max 20-23k for the P220 in exchange. Seems a good deal??
                Its a good deal depending on your choice, I tried out the Dominar and I did not like it.

                The price you are getting for the 220 is quite good actually, in the open market you may get around 5K more maybe. But did you change to KA registration?
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                • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                  Originally posted by Praful View Post
                  Sounds like a battery issue. My starter clutch had disintegrated and was making mixer grinder like sounds while the bike was running.



                  If you are keeping the bike for another 2-3 years, get Amaron. Else get anything else, doesn't matter.
                  Most likely will go with anything that's available online for a good rate


                  Originally posted by Praful View Post
                  Its a good deal depending on your choice, I tried out the Dominar and I did not like it.

                  The price you are getting for the 220 is quite good actually, in the open market you may get around 5K more maybe. But did you change to KA registration?
                  No, haven't changed to KA registration. Enquired them to get an idea of how much the P220 would fetch if exchanged .

                  About the Dominar , I felt the riding posture to be unique , saddle height seemed taller and tank was also placed high , liked it in the short spin I had , need to take a longer test ride to see if I really like the bike. Also need to do a test ride with pillion. But heck we don't have much options in this price range with all the features that Dominar offers!

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                  • Help needed regarding Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi (2008)

                    Hello All,

                    I own a pulsar 220 DTS-Fi (2008) model and currently residing in Pune. As such I have never faced any major issues with the bike apart from the one when my fuel injector pump failed and I had to replace it in 2011. However, in recent days I am observing few things for which I need some help from fellow bikers -

                    1) My bikes mileage has been reduced to a quite low. As per my observation it must be in between 20-25. Since, it doesn't have a carburetor mechanics only suggest to clean spark plug. I have never done ECU diagnostic or CO setting for my bike till date as none of the showrooms have this facility when I was in my hometown (Allahabad) and when I moved to Pune, Fuel Injector chapter was closed. So basically, I am stuck at a point where I don't know what to do ?

                    2) The acceleration seems good but it never crosses 100 KMPH mark (I tried a number of times on long stretches. As usual, mechanics blame everything on Fuel injector rather than resolving the actual issue. I am not sure whether it is due to the same. On an added note Clutch Plate seems okay as told by 2-3 different mechanics.

                    3) The engine seems to give a whirring sound as soon as I rev. On every service, I tell this to mechanics but never resolved. some say it's timing chain, others need to open up the engine. I have done 43K till now, so I am not sure whether to go for the latter part.

                    4) The engine heat sensor indicator is always on on Console. Even if I put key to ignition on the next morning it stays on. The response which I got is that heat sensors needs to be changed but it is different on Fi and the carburetor one will not work. I observed that a wire which comes from radiator at front is broken but not sure for which purpose that wire is.

                    5) Most of the wiring joints and relays have rust over it. Can I consider replacing the entire wiring harness ? If, yes will the new one fits on my model.

                    6) Lastly, can anyone here who owns a Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi suggest a good mechanic in Pune where I can get my service done. Till now my experience is not good both with company service centers as well as local mechanics.

                    Any suggestions are welcome on above points which will help me to retain this bike for few more years.

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                    • Re: Help needed regarding Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi (2008)

                      Originally posted by yashtripathi09 View Post
                      Hello All,


                      Any suggestions are welcome on above points which will help me to retain this bike for few more years.
                      [MENTION=10473]Praful[/MENTION] might be able to help you out!
                      Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

                      Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

                      Touring Blog: Cycling in Mongolia!

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                      • Re: Help needed regarding Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi (2008)

                        Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                        @Praful might be able to help you out!
                        Thank you [MENTION=38603]The Monk[/MENTION] for your suggestion.
                        [MENTION=10473]Praful[/MENTION] - It will be really helpful if you can provide some inputs over my queries.

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                        • Re: Help needed regarding Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi (2008)

                          Originally posted by yashtripathi09 View Post
                          Hello All,

                          I own a pulsar 220 DTS-Fi (2008) model and currently residing in Pune. As such I have never faced any major issues with the bike apart from the one when my fuel injector pump failed and I had to replace it in 2011. However, in recent days I am observing few things for which I need some help from fellow bikers -

                          1) My bikes mileage has been reduced to a quite low. As per my observation it must be in between 20-25. Since, it doesn't have a carburetor mechanics only suggest to clean spark plug. I have never done ECU diagnostic or CO setting for my bike till date as none of the showrooms have this facility when I was in my hometown (Allahabad) and when I moved to Pune, Fuel Injector chapter was closed. So basically, I am stuck at a point where I don't know what to do ?

                          2) The acceleration seems good but it never crosses 100 KMPH mark (I tried a number of times on long stretches. As usual, mechanics blame everything on Fuel injector rather than resolving the actual issue. I am not sure whether it is due to the same. On an added note Clutch Plate seems okay as told by 2-3 different mechanics.

                          3) The engine seems to give a whirring sound as soon as I rev. On every service, I tell this to mechanics but never resolved. some say it's timing chain, others need to open up the engine. I have done 43K till now, so I am not sure whether to go for the latter part.

                          4) The engine heat sensor indicator is always on on Console. Even if I put key to ignition on the next morning it stays on. The response which I got is that heat sensors needs to be changed but it is different on Fi and the carburetor one will not work. I observed that a wire which comes from radiator at front is broken but not sure for which purpose that wire is.

                          5) Most of the wiring joints and relays have rust over it. Can I consider replacing the entire wiring harness ? If, yes will the new one fits on my model.

                          6) Lastly, can anyone here who owns a Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi suggest a good mechanic in Pune where I can get my service done. Till now my experience is not good both with company service centers as well as local mechanics.

                          Any suggestions are welcome on above points which will help me to retain this bike for few more years.
                          My responses to your questions-

                          1) You definitely need to find a Bajaj service centre that will perform CO tuning for your bike. Most of the older service centre, that now service KTM's should be able to do this. Open up your spark plugs to check what is the colour to indicate if its running rich/lean/perfect AFR before you do CO tuning. Typically, mileage is impacted a) AFR Tuning b) Filters (Air & Fuel) c) Clutch plate condition d) Chain Sprocket & Tyre Condition

                          2) Not crossing 100 Kmph could be due to incorrect AFR (too rich or lean), clogged filters (air/fuel), worn/dry out sprockets

                          3) Need to identify the source of this sound, it could be something come loose in the starter clutch assembly area, or timing chain, or even a broken internal pipe in the exhaust. You need to find out from where this sound emanates.

                          4) Again, you need to plug in the diagnostic tool to your bike and see if the temperature sensor has conked off. And yes, the Fi sensor is specific the Dtsi sensor does not fit. Keep in mind this is a tough to get hold of part. I just ordered my spare sensor last week as mine might conk at any moment.

                          5) Please get the wiring harness replace, again it needs to be the FI specific one. By 2008 they had improved the harness quite a bit (depending on which month you picked up your bike). But for the Fi definitely helps to sort out most of the electrical problems once the wiring harness is replaced. I got mine changed in 2011 for 2.7K, I believe the prices is still around the same.

                          6) Check with [MENTION=10454]MG[/MENTION] where he gets his Fi serviced. He's the lone Fi riding xBhpian I know in that region now. Or send your bike over to Bangalore, I'll get it sorted out and back to stock condition in a month
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                          LoneWolfRides©

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                          • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                            Hello guys! My bike's projector light is shaking how to fix it? n What are the signs of a dying starter clutch (one way)?
                            Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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                            • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                              Thank you so much [MENTION=10473]Praful[/MENTION] for your answers. Quick queries on your replies -

                              1) I checked with PBK that have turned into KTM service centers regarding ECU diagnostic. The simply say it's not possible since they deal with KTM bikes now. Probably [MENTION=10454]MG[/MENTION] can guide better.

                              2) From where did you ordered your sensor. Is it some local shop or through web. If it is through web can you please share the link.

                              3) Regarding wiring harness, can I fit in the one which is available for current models ? Or I need to search for the one specific to FI model ? Do you know any portals from where I can order the same.
                              [MENTION=10454]MG[/MENTION] - Can you please help me out as suggested by [MENTION=10473]Praful[/MENTION]

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                              • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                                Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
                                Hello guys! My bike's projector light is shaking how to fix it? n What are the signs of a dying starter clutch (one way)?

                                Which part is shaking? Is it the whole assembly or just the projector inside the assembly? IIRC there are four screws which hold it in place inside the fairing. Pull out the fairing and see if one of those have become loose.

                                Dying starter clutch- Bike not starting intermittently, strange noises inside the starter clutch assembly, during startup the bike cranks but does not start up, can be may reasons. What are the symptoms you are seeing?

                                Originally posted by yashtripathi09 View Post

                                1) I checked with PBK that have turned into KTM service centers regarding ECU diagnostic. The simply say it's not possible since they deal with KTM bikes now. Probably @MG can guide better.

                                2) From where did you ordered your sensor. Is it some local shop or through web. If it is through web can you please share the link.

                                3) Regarding wiring harness, can I fit in the one which is available for current models ? Or I need to search for the one specific to FI model ? Do you know any portals from where I can order the same.
                                @MG - Can you please help me out as suggested by @Praful
                                1. The same diagnostic tool is used for KTM's as well. I think the port is different, but do none of the ex-PBK's tune the 220 Fi now? Wow!!

                                2. I ordered it through Bajaj service centre, they are ex-PBK service and now KTM (and ex-kawasaki service). Been going to them for 10 years now.

                                3. Nope, the harness is Fi specific. You will need to order through Bajaj

                                4. Since you are going to order stuff, do order fuel filters as well. If you have the moolah order and keep the pump spare. its been 5 years since you changed and that is one of the biggest question mark components on the bike now.
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