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  • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

    My bike struggles to start when the engine is cold. It takes almost 4 revolutions for it to start. Once it starts it works fine. What should I do about it?
    Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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    • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

      Hi,
      i recently shifted to Malad West and am looking for a place to service my 220 dts-fi.
      previously I used to service it at Sai service, parel.
      Have enquirerd at Executive Bajaj Malad. They say they will service the bike but unsure if they know about the fi model.
      need to change the chain sprocket and fuel filter
      the bike is still running near perfect.
      have done around 15k on the odo.

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      • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

        Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
        What should I do with the brake? Should I just clean the oil container or drain all oil and replace?
        Oh definitely, with that amount of dirt I will recommend cleaning the fluid reservoir and changing the brake hose and replacing the brake fluid as well. If you haven't upgraded to the steel braided hose, this would be a good time to upgrade.

        Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
        My bike struggles to start when the engine is cold. It takes almost 4 revolutions for it to start. Once it starts it works fine. What should I do about it?
        Typically an issue with either -

        a) Battery becoming weak, this could be either an issue with the battery or even the charging circuit
        b) Starter coil becoming weak

        Originally posted by bragzg View Post
        Hi,
        i recently shifted to Malad West and am looking for a place to service my 220 dts-fi.
        previously I used to service it at Sai service, parel.
        Have enquirerd at Executive Bajaj Malad. They say they will service the bike but unsure if they know about the fi model.
        need to change the chain sprocket and fuel filter
        the bike is still running near perfect.
        have done around 15k on the odo.
        I don't know about Mumbai service centers currently, but I am guessing nobody would want to touch the Fi model.

        *If* the bike is running fine at least the Fi component. Do not touch it, just get the mechanicals serviced at any service centre of your choice. If the service centre can order Fi parts for you then you should just get the filters (air & fuel) changed and you should be sorted.

        However, if you have issues with Fi component (incorrect fueling, throttle response improper, CO levels too high or low) OR any of the sensors going kaput then you need to find a place that still has the Bajaj 220 Fi diagnostic tool with them help you resolve any issues either the Fi components or the sensors.
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        • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

          I don't know about Mumbai service centers currently, but I am guessing nobody would want to touch the Fi model.

          *If* the bike is running fine at least the Fi component. Do not touch it, just get the mechanicals serviced at any service centre of your choice. If the service centre can order Fi parts for you then you should just get the filters (air & fuel) changed and you should be sorted.

          However, if you have issues with Fi component (incorrect fueling, throttle response improper, CO levels too high or low) OR any of the sensors going kaput then you need to find a place that still has the Bajaj 220 Fi diagnostic tool with them help you resolve any issues either the Fi components or the sensors.[/QUOTE]

          Thanks praful,
          Got the chain and sprockets changed.
          Also did a engine flush. Service center said they can't source the fuel filter.
          Bike ran well for a few weeks. But now it's not starting. The fi component is making a louder sound than usual on switching on. The fuel gauge still shows 4 bars, but on physical inspection tank looks almost empty. Is the fuel gauge indicator faulty?

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          • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

            Fuel gauge of my Fi is not working from a long time. Would this fit on my 220 Fi or does it need different fuel level sensor?

            Bajaj Genuine Fuel Level Sensor for Bajaj Pulsar 220F with 220cc DTSi Engine in authentic quality and price. Express delivery across India
            Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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            • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

              Originally posted by bragzg View Post
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              Thanks praful,
              Got the chain and sprockets changed.
              Also did a engine flush. Service center said they can't source the fuel filter.
              Bike ran well for a few weeks. But now it's not starting. The fi component is making a louder sound than usual on switching on. The fuel gauge still shows 4 bars, but on physical inspection tank looks almost empty. Is the fuel gauge indicator faulty?
              Don't depend too much on the fuel gauge, as it's just an approximate indicator. Fill up at least 5-6 litres and try to start it.

              When you say it's not starting, what exactly is happening? After the fuel pump primes, is the engine cranking up or even that is not happening. There are multiple reasons for this.

              Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
              Fuel gauge of my Fi is not working from a long time. Would this fit on my 220 Fi or does it need different fuel level sensor?

              https://www.99rpm.com/bajaj/fuel-lev...lsar-220f.html
              You could get the fuel float serviced. I don't remember if the carb 220s filter can fit the Fi tank. Will check this with my svc center and revert.
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              LoneWolfRides©

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              • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                Got the chain set changed to 14T-36T. Still my Fi does the same 57kmph@4000rpm and the stupid rear tyre has full tread. Will get 120/90 someday.
                Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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                • Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                  Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
                  Got the chain set changed to 14T-36T. Still my Fi does the same 57kmph@4000rpm and the stupid rear tyre has full tread. Will get 120/90 someday.
                  14/36 must be equal to the old sprocket values. I m talking maths here.

                  14/36 = 0.38.
                  This value should come down for shorter gearing. This value should go up for taller gearing. So bigger front sprocket increases the numerator and gives taller gearing.

                  Smaller front sprocket reduces the numerator and reduces the overall value. Hence increasing the acceleration at the cost of top end and FE.


                  If you are a sedate rider and want to drop few hundred revs for better cruising, I think bringing down the ratio to 0.33 or 0.31 helps a lot without putting much stress on final drive. Note that dropping more than 0.04 (eg dropping from 0.40 to 0.30 which is 0.1, more than prescribed 0.04 value) might not go well for your bike.
                  Last edited by kris123456; 12-10-2017, 05:09 PM.

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                  • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                    Originally posted by kris123456 View Post
                    14/36 must be equal to the old sprocket values. I m talking maths here.

                    14/36 = 0.38.
                    This value should come down for shorter gearing. This value should go up for taller gearing. So bigger front sprocket increases the numerator and gives taller gearing.

                    Smaller front sprocket reduces the numerator and reduces the overall value. Hence increasing the acceleration at the cost of top end and FE.


                    If you are a sedate rider and want to drop few hundred revs for better cruising, I think bringing down the ratio to 0.33 or 0.31 helps a lot without putting much stress on final drive. Note that dropping more than 0.04 (eg dropping from 0.40 to 0.30 which is 0.1, more than prescribed 0.04 value) might not go well for your bike.
                    Earlier it was 14T-37T. BTW now I'm having problem shifting gears. The lever seems to be little up and its not downshifting easily.
                    Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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                    • Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                      Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
                      Earlier it was 14T-37T. BTW now I'm having problem shifting gears. The lever seems to be little up and its not downshifting easily.
                      Sprockets have nothing to do with shifting gears. While changing sprockets, the gears shifter must have been screwed. Try to apply grease to the shifter connect rods.

                      When you change sprocket, did you check the other aspects of chain and sprockets?? Aspect ratio, pitch, etc etc??

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                      • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                        Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
                        Got the chain set changed to 14T-36T. Still my Fi does the same 57kmph@4000rpm and the stupid rear tyre has full tread. Will get 120/90 someday.
                        What is the speed it does at 6K RPM now? Sorry that is my reference point, I have forgotten speeds done at other rpms :P

                        And what size/brand front tyre are you running? That makes a difference too as it change the reading error either by positive or negative factors.

                        Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
                        Earlier it was 14T-37T. BTW now I'm having problem shifting gears. The lever seems to be little up and its not downshifting easily.
                        Adjust the play on the gear shift lever, there are two screws on the lever that can help you do that.
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                        LoneWolfRides©

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                        • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                          Originally posted by Praful View Post
                          What is the speed it does at 6K RPM now? Sorry that is my reference point, I have forgotten speeds done at other rpms [emoji14]
                          Check yours when you ride next time. I rarely go above 5k

                          And what size/brand front tyre are you running? That makes a difference too as it change the reading error either by positive or negative factors.
                          90/90 -17 MRF stock tyre

                          Adjust the play on the gear shift lever, there are two screws on the lever that can help you do that.
                          Yes. Now its okay. I sometimes feel the wheel wobble while turning. No noise from disc. How much does the cone set of 220 cost?
                          Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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                          • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                            Originally posted by sandwichk View Post
                            Check yours when you ride next time. I rarely go above 5k
                            I can't check because I am not on stock config

                            On the stock front and rear tyres with stock sprockets, the 220 Fi does 83Kmph @ 6K RPM.

                            With a 120/90 tyre leading to taller gearing the bike does 88Kmph @ 6K RPM, with the 36T rear sprocket you should be doing approximately the same.
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                            • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                              On cold starts sometimes the self runs free. Its similar to the sound when you try to start the bike on low battery. kharrrr. Battery is new and good. Starter clutch/One way clutch replaced few months ago.
                              Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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                              • Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

                                Took out the fuel lever sensor. I'm thinking of soldering the internal part with new sensor of 220. Tried moving in manually. It didn't work.
                                Pulsar 220 Fi (2008) 28k km

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