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  • #18451
    Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Assuming that your motorcycle runs off H7 bulbs, you may opt for the P220's 55W H7 bulb. In P220 both low and high beams are powered by 55W H7 bulbs.
    Today im going to hmc ss, whr i will confirm exact which type of bulb it is, if its h7 as u say thats great, but is there any difference in high and low beam bulbs or both are same but reflectors are made differently?. Also uphrading to 55w in both high and low beam will work fine? I mean my battery is 6ah 12v as per manual.
    Thanks in advance

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    • #18452
      Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

      I've run with 115W on stock wiring, horn would stop working if I ride for long under 5k rpm.

      As for P220, yeah same type of bulb for low and high. 55W H7, SVC sells some local brand, don't remember the exact brand.
      Motorcycling Experience:
      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
      Adios Comrades!
      A.P. 2018

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      • #18453
        Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

        Originally posted by Abhi303 View Post
        Today im going to hmc ss, whr i will confirm exact which type of bulb it is, if its h7 as u say thats great, but is there any difference in high and low beam bulbs or both are same but reflectors are made differently?. Also uphrading to 55w in both high and low beam will work fine? I mean my battery is 6ah 12v as per manual.
        Thanks in advance
        I made this mistake of recommending H7 bulbs to a friend, which ended up being donated.
        Newer Karizmas (v2, 2014) use H8 bulbs.
        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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        • #18454
          Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
          I've run with 115W on stock wiring, horn would stop working if I ride for long under 5k rpm.

          As for P220, yeah same type of bulb for low and high. 55W H7, SVC sells some local brand, don't remember the exact brand.
          U mean u can run directly a 115w bulb on karizma withiut any alterations

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          • #18455
            Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
            I made this mistake of recommending H7 bulbs to a friend, which ended up being donated.
            Newer Karizmas (v2, 2014) use H8 bulbs.
            Hey man, thanks for the info, that saved me, do u also have 2014 version, have u done anything to increase headlight throw

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            • #18456
              Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

              Originally posted by Abhi303 View Post
              Hey man, thanks for the info, that saved me, do u also have 2014 version, have u done anything to increase headlight throw
              You can fit a 55w (lo) + 60w (hi) setup. Just ensure you use a relay.

              I own a classic ZMR brother and I run on Cyclops LEDs (H4).
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • #18457
                Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                You can fit a 55w (lo) + 60w (hi) setup. Just ensure you use a relay.

                I own a classic ZMR brother and I run on Cyclops LEDs (H4).
                Ur zmr have single and big reflector thats really good unlike new version with 2 small reflectors. Can u post any pic of headlights working at night with h4 led, and are you sure that i can run with both low n high beam on with upgraded bulbs.

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                • #18458
                  Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

                  Originally posted by Abhi303 View Post
                  Ur zmr have single and big reflector thats really good unlike new version with 2 small reflectors. Can u post any pic of headlights working at night with h4 led, and are you sure that i can run with both low n high beam on with upgraded bulbs.
                  Well ZMR reflectors aren't good. Too many cuts and creases. I use a 20 watt (lo), 40 watt (hi) Cyclops LED I bought from USA.

                  And regarding your query on using both bulbs at once,

                  Karizma's alternator generates 238 watts at 5000 revs.

                  Now your headlights are 35 + 35 = 70 watts .
                  Indicators are 10*4 = 40 watts.
                  Pilot lamps are 10*2 = 20 watts.

                  With this 55/60, upgrade your headlights would become 55 + 60 = 115 watts. A difference of 45 watts.
                  You can compensate that by using LED indicators of 3 watts each. That would save you 40 - (3*4) = 28 watts and LED pilot lamps of 2 watts each, saving you 20 - (2*2) = 16 watts. Total saving 28 + 16 = 44 watts. Thereby compensating all extra load.

                  Just ensure that you use a headlamp relay.

                  Meanwhile, my headlamp pics.

                  Low beam:

                  Click image for larger version Name: LowBeam.jpg Views: 1 Size: 43.1 KB ID: 1952067

                  High beam:

                  Click image for larger version Name: HighBeam.jpg Views: 1 Size: 66.0 KB ID: 1952068
                  Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                  Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                  Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                  Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                  ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                  P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  • #18459
                    Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Well ZMR reflectors aren't good. Too many cuts and creases. I use a 20 watt (lo), 40 watt (hi) Cyclops LED I bought from USA.

                    And regarding your query on using both bulbs at once,

                    Karizma's alternator generates 238 watts at 5000 revs.

                    Now your headlights are 35 + 35 = 70 watts .
                    Indicators are 10*4 = 40 watts.
                    Pilot lamps are 10*2 = 20 watts.

                    With this 55/60, upgrade your headlights would become 55 + 60 = 115 watts. A difference of 45 watts.
                    You can compensate that by using LED indicators of 3 watts each. That would save you 40 - (3*4) = 28 watts and LED pilot lamps of 2 watts each, saving you 20 - (2*2) = 16 watts. Total saving 28 + 16 = 44 watts. Thereby compensating all extra load.

                    Just ensure that you use a headlamp relay.

                    Meanwhile, my headlamp pics.

                    Low beam:

                    [ATTACH]231396[/ATTACH]

                    High beam:

                    [ATTACH]231397[/ATTACH]
                    Wow, ur headlight are still better than what i have.
                    And as u said about pilot lam, i have only 2 led eyebrows which i believe should be less that 2 watts each, and i have already added ktm duke led indicators instead of original one. Im looking forward to upgrade my halogon to 55w, will post soon once get it done.
                    Its a hit or miss situation for me, but lets hope for the best.
                    Thanks for the info. Appreciate ur feedback.

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                    • #18460
                      Re: Karizma r 2014 headlight improvement

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      Well ZMR reflectors aren't good. Too many cuts and creases. I use a 20 watt (lo), 40 watt (hi) Cyclops LED I bought from USA.

                      And regarding your query on using both bulbs at once,

                      Karizma's alternator generates 238 watts at 5000 revs.

                      Now your headlights are 35 + 35 = 70 watts .
                      Indicators are 10*4 = 40 watts.
                      Pilot lamps are 10*2 = 20 watts.

                      With this 55/60, upgrade your headlights would become 55 + 60 = 115 watts. A difference of 45 watts.
                      You can compensate that by using LED indicators of 3 watts each. That would save you 40 - (3*4) = 28 watts and LED pilot lamps of 2 watts each, saving you 20 - (2*2) = 16 watts. Total saving 28 + 16 = 44 watts. Thereby compensating all extra load.

                      Just ensure that you use a headlamp relay.

                      Meanwhile, my headlamp pics.

                      Low beam:

                      [ATTACH]231396[/ATTACH]

                      High beam:

                      [ATTACH]231397[/ATTACH]
                      I forgot to ask you about relay. What kind of relay it is, and do i need two of them for both individual reflectors


                      Here is my bikes pics.

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                      • #18461
                        Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                        Just an update. I had installed Philips Xtreme vision with a 9ah battery back in 2012, but no relay / new wiring. The battery gave out earlier this year, so had installed new battery (Amaron maintenance-free 9ah again). Now looks like its the time for the xtreme vision bulb. The filament gives just a dull glow in low beam with some flickering, and no light in high beam, and a blown fuse. [ Though other electricals such as indicators / horn etc too start acting up once the headlight is switched on, so maybe its something to do with wiring ]. So need to get both the wiring + bulb checked soon.

                        The above posts are derived from aggregation of opinions of several xBhp ZMA riders, based on personal experience/common sense. Please be advised that some things might differ from manufacturer's recommendations.

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                        • #18462
                          Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                          Nothing to be changed with current system, only you will feel the lamp housing little warmer after this alteration

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                          • #18463
                            Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                            Originally posted by Abhi303 View Post
                            U mean u can run directly a 115w bulb on karizma withiut any alterations
                            I used a 55/60 H4 Bulb and while riding through poorly lit areas I'd stick the beam switch in between the low/high beam postion as a result of which both beams would be on at the same time, not a permanent fix, but got the job done at times.
                            Motorcycling Experience:
                            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                            Adios Comrades!
                            A.P. 2018

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                            • #18464
                              Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by prashk View Post
                              Just an update. I had installed Philips Xtreme vision with a 9ah battery back in 2012, but no relay / new wiring. The battery gave out earlier this year, so had installed new battery (Amaron maintenance-free 9ah again). Now looks like its the time for the xtreme vision bulb. The filament gives just a dull glow in low beam with some flickering, and no light in high beam, and a blown fuse. [ Though other electricals such as indicators / horn etc too start acting up once the headlight is switched on, so maybe its something to do with wiring ]. So need to get both the wiring + bulb checked soon.
                              HL upgrade without wiring upgrade is always a risk. We can assume that oe wiring has a tolerance of x%. The HL will use that additional load but the wiring will be running at the extreme level. I suspect your switch will give up before the wires. Try wd40 on the switch. Also use a relay.
                              Since other electricals are playing up on low beam I suspect a short circuit.
                              Last edited by acs1207; 07-05-2017, 03:35 PM.
                              sigpic

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                              • #18465
                                Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by IntoOblivion View Post
                                When I checked the pic the rear tyre pressure for solo and pillion was 29 and 33 respectively...so my guess (pardon me if I am wrong) is that Divya Sharan had read the value from top ( Rear solo as front and rear pillion as Rear)...
                                So, I just checked the note on my bike, and the tire pressures are as below:
                                rider+pillion F>25 R>33
                                rider only F>25 R>29

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