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  • #19231
    Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by jithin911 View Post
    @psr Sir, thank you very much for your valuable comments

    I have checked vacuum hose, no block found inside.

    I am able to open air cut off valve cover. Found diaphragm is not in good shape(Not Sure).
    Attaching some pics of diaphragm and carburetor



    Sir, which engine oil is good for 2004 model karizma?
    Now I am using hero 4T plus 10w30 engine oil.
    I read one of your old post. In that, you mentioned 20w40 engine oil is recommended for karizma till 2005 model.
    Kindly help me on this too
    Hold the diaphragm against light and see if there are any small holes..if there is any you may have to change it...Regarding the Engine oil Shell AX7 is good...similarly the Shell Rimula R4 is good. though it is a Diesel engine oil the viscosity and additives are helpful in maintaining good engine cleanliness and keep the moving parts well lubricated... I am using it for more than 3 yrs with good results. Since it is a Mineral oil you may have to change it in 2 k Kms.
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • #19232
      Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

      My engine is creating dhud dhud sound on idle,which reduces when moving
      What could be culprit
      Some say timing chain tensioner,please tell how to check it.

      Some say it is crank bearing cost 10k complete overhaul.
      Last edited by Om1234; 05-16-2018, 03:16 PM.

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      • #19233
        Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

        Originally posted by psr View Post
        Good that you have been able to isolate the problem to the source ie., the Carburetor...The air cut off valve at the side of carb can also cause this problem. To find out block the INSIDE of the vacuum hose coming into the Aircut off valve , and keep it connected. Better still replace air cut off valve diaphragm and install. Now check for problems...if problem continues then check for throttle slide being sticky or worn out .
        Good luck.

        Sir please listen to this audio

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        Please Copy this link into your browser and listen the sound of my karizma engine
        It is creating a thud thud sound on idle
        Some say it is crank bearing and requires engine overhaul.
        Some say crank is very strong of karizma it does not get damaged,it would be timing chain tensioner.
        Bike has done around 30-35 thousand kms
        One time half engine work,usha piston installed.
        Average 40+ and pickup everything is proper.
        No white smoke from exhaust.
        Please give your valuable inputs.
        Last edited by Om1234; 05-18-2018, 05:24 PM.

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        • #19234
          Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by Om1234 View Post
          Sir please listen to this audio

          Vocaroo | Online voice recorder
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          Please Copy this link into your browser and listen the sound of my karizma engine
          It is creating a thud thud sound on idle
          Some say it is crank bearing and requires engine overhaul.
          Some say crank is very strong of karizma it does not get damaged,it would be timing chain tensioner.
          Bike has done around 30-35 thousand kms
          One time half engine work,usha piston installed.
          Average 40+ and pickup everything is proper.
          No white smoke from exhaust.
          Please give your valuable inputs.
          The idle is extremely low and the sound may be due to connecting rod big end bearing...that said does the sound increase while riding ?..esp., when you down shift ? if yes then conrod big end bearing...if the sound is consistent even while normal riding and also while down shifting then suspect crank bearing. but for the crank bearing to develop this it must have run without oil..My suspicion is on the conrod big end bearing .
          Good Luck.
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • #19235
            Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by psr View Post
            The idle is extremely low and the sound may be due to connecting rod big end bearing...that said does the sound increase while riding ?..esp., when you down shift ? if yes then conrod big end bearing...if the sound is consistent even while normal riding and also while down shifting then suspect crank bearing. but for the crank bearing to develop this it must have run without oil..My suspicion is on the conrod big end bearing .
            Good Luck.
            No sir,the sound reduces while riding.
            Will it require complete overhual to fix?

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            • #19236
              Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by Om1234 View Post
              No sir,the sound reduces while riding.
              Will it require complete overhual to fix?
              Without opening the engine , it is hard to tell , because the condition of associated parts must also be evaluated....
              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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              • #19237
                Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                Originally posted by Om1234 View Post
                My engine is creating dhud dhud sound on idle,which reduces when moving
                What could be culprit
                Some say timing chain tensioner,please tell how to check it.

                Some say it is crank bearing cost 10k complete overhaul.
                It can be a problem with cam chain tensioner, also check the valve too. I too had this problem earlier. Check with the timing once in 20k, this can prevent premature parts replacement.

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                • #19238
                  Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                  Originally posted by aquib31 View Post
                  It can be a problem with cam chain tensioner, also check the valve too. I too had this problem earlier. Check with the timing once in 20k, this can prevent premature parts replacement.
                  How was your problem solved?
                  Did your engine gave same sound as mine?
                  Timing chain is 1.5 yrs old,only 8k done
                  Last edited by Om1234; 05-20-2018, 01:46 PM.

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                  • #19239
                    Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    Without opening the engine , it is hard to tell , because the condition of associated parts must also be evaluated....
                    Psr sir bike is very smooth,minimal vibes
                    Is it possible for a bike to work in such a way,with the crank damaged?
                    Do you think it can be timing chain tensioner.
                    Last edited by Om1234; 05-20-2018, 04:01 PM.

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                    • #19240
                      Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                      Originally posted by Om1234 View Post
                      How was your problem solved?
                      Did your engine gave same sound as mine?
                      Timing chain is 1.5 yrs old,only 8k done
                      My engine sound was exactly the same as yours. Mine was rectified by changing the cam chain tensioner. Does the sound lessen when the engine heats up?
                      Last edited by aquib31; 05-20-2018, 03:41 PM.

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                      • #19241
                        Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                        Originally posted by aquib31 View Post
                        Mine was rectified by changing the cam chain tensioner.
                        It is only on idle,not much to notice when moving.
                        Last edited by Om1234; 05-20-2018, 04:02 PM.

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                        • #19242
                          Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by Om1234 View Post
                          It is only on idle,not much to notice when moving.
                          Then it can be the cam chain tensioner.

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                          • #19243
                            Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                            Hey xbhpians, I need your advises and help here. I was thinking about increasing the height of front suspension. Can I increase the play of the forks? I would like to ride a machine with little more height in front.
                            Is there any way to do it? If yes, please let me know the details and cost.
                            Thanks in advance[emoji2]

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                            • #19244
                              Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post
                              Hey xbhpians, I need your advises and help here. I was thinking about increasing the height of front suspension. Can I increase the play of the forks? I would like to ride a machine with little more height in front.
                              Is there any way to do it? If yes, please let me know the details and cost.
                              Thanks in advance[emoji2]
                              Try CBZ forks, not sure about which iteration but a friend went with a pair to raise the front by a few inches.
                              Motorcycling Experience:
                              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                              Adios Comrades!
                              A.P. 2018

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                              • #19245
                                Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                Try CBZ forks, not sure about which iteration but a friend went with a pair to raise the front by a few inches.
                                Originally posted by Om1234 View Post
                                Sir please listen to this audio

                                Vocaroo | Online voice recorder
                                https://vocaroo.com/i/s1yoVLoD0JP4
                                Vocaroo is a quick and easy way to share voice messages over the interwebs.


                                Please Copy this link into your browser and listen the sound of my karizma engine
                                It is creating a thud thud sound on idle
                                Some say it is crank bearing and requires engine overhaul.
                                Some say crank is very strong of karizma it does not get damaged,it would be timing chain tensioner.
                                Bike has done around 30-35 thousand kms
                                One time half engine work,usha piston installed.
                                Average 40+ and pickup everything is proper.
                                No white smoke from exhaust.
                                Please give your valuable inputs.
                                Any suggestions
                                Can it be timing chain tensioner?

                                Comment

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