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  • Originally posted by nirvan View Post
    Do you have dual horns and/or a higher wattage headlight bulb? They could be the reasons for a quicker discharge. I suspect these factors had something to do with the early retirement of my OE battery.
    I was using Osram NB for few months and then HID, now back to stock bulb. I have charged the battery and electricals are good for now.

    I got a quote of Rs.1543 for Amaron VRLA here, with 60 months warranty, just in case.

    Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
    And 9 Ah battery may not be the best idea in the long term... depends on the electrical system.
    Why is 9AH battery not a best idea? Just as nirvan mentioned, for coping up with a higher load a higher capacity battery would be good isn't it?

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    • Originally posted by siva1001 View Post
      Why is 9AH battery not a best idea? Just as nirvan mentioned, for coping up with a higher load a higher capacity battery would be good isn't it?
      Karizma has best electrical system. Nothing will happen with a 9-amp battery. Many have been using the 9-amp battery successfully without any long-term issues.
      HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
      Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

      Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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      • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        Karizma has best electrical system. Nothing will happen with a 9-amp battery. Many have been using the 9-amp battery successfully without any long-term issues.
        Ravi: Thanks for clarifying.

        Has anyone installed louder horns for ZMA? I am planning for a upgrade this weekend, I do not like the windtone type horns which could attract cops. I am interested in the electrical horn type of sound and should be loud enough. Going by specs, I have Roots spider horn @114db in mind. Root Industries Limited - Products - SPIDER

        Any personal experiences or suggestions are welcome.

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        • Originally posted by derin6 View Post
          till how much kilometer should i maintain under 4 rpm and wen can i hit a 80 Km/hr speed..
          Congrats, bro! Another proud ZMA owner!

          Keep the bike under 60kmph for the first 1000 kms. This is what I followed. However, there are people who do the run-in for just a few hundred kms.
          All men dream, but not equally. Those that dream at night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act upon their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. - T. E. Lawrence

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          • Originally posted by siva1001 View Post
            Ravi: Thanks for clarifying.

            Has anyone installed louder horns for ZMA? I am planning for a upgrade this weekend, I do not like the windtone type horns which could attract cops. I am interested in the electrical horn type of sound and should be loud enough. Going by specs, I have Roots spider horn @114db in mind. Root Industries Limited - Products - SPIDER

            Any personal experiences or suggestions are welcome.


            I just a Spider Eco Dual Horns a month ago.... had a few problems initially because of the relay problem.....
            Make sure you have a good relay n please do not go musical relay as they suck.... n please goto a good auto electrician to get it fixed or else u will regret it(because i did initially )...
            Finally the horns are awesome ..................

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            • Originally posted by kirosh_03 View Post
              Congrats, bro! Another proud ZMA owner!

              Keep the bike under 60kmph for the first 1000 kms. This is what I followed. However, there are people who do the run-in for just a few hundred kms.
              thanx 4 ur reply
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              • Originally posted by siva1001 View Post
                Why is 9AH battery not a best idea? Just as nirvan mentioned, for coping up with a higher load a higher capacity battery would be good isn't it?
                Dude, a battery is not an energy producer. You have to put in what you take out. So where will it get its juice? The charging system may not be upto supplying that juice.

                Actually, I'd say, if you do not put any extra load on the 9 Ah battery (ie. everything is stock), then it just might be ok to fix it. Otherwise, long term adverse effects are a possibility...

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                • Siva001:

                  In the interests of safety, the stock ZMA horn and lights need to be upgraded, no question about it. The upgrades are eminently affordable and are easily performed. IMO it is a no-brainer to have these done as soon as possible.

                  These upgrades need more energy, which a larger capacity battery can provide. Under standard conditions, A 7 ampere hour battery can provide 7 amperes of current for one hour. A 9 ampere hour battery can provide 9 amperes over that same period of one hour. It can simply store more current, not to be confused with voltage. It is incorrect to assume that using a battery with a higher AH rating will cause damage to the electrical system. When the engine runs, its alternator continuously generates current, some of which is routed to the battery to recharge it.

                  Remember, a battery does not 'produce' electricity, it is akin to a reservoir that stores & provides energy in the form of electricity when needed. When the electricity is drawn, it leads to a discharge, which the bike's electrical system needs to recharge to bring battery storage levels back to the brim.

                  It remains to be proven whether or not the ZMA's electrical system is capable of recharging a 2AH larger capacity battery. In the interests of safety meanwhile, upgrading the light and horn along with the battery seem to be the right thing to do.

                  Worst case scenario? The battery wont get recharged enough and *may* need replacement before the end of its design life. No biggie, batteries luckily don't cost the moon.

                  If your battery needs to be replaced, then go with a 9AH, which will make it capable to give your bike the extra juice as and when needed.
                  Last edited by nirvan; 11-06-2009, 06:15 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by nirvan View Post
                    Siva001:

                    In the interests of safety, the stock ZMA horn and lights need to be upgraded, no question about it. The upgrades are eminently affordable and are easily performed. IMO it is a no-brainer to have these done as soon as possible.

                    These upgrades need more energy, which a larger capacity battery can provide. Under standard conditions, A 7 ampere hour battery can provide 7 amperes of current for one hour. A 9 ampere hour battery can provide 9 amperes over that same period of one hour. It can simply store more current, not to be confused with voltage. It is incorrect to assume that using a battery with a higher AH rating will cause damage to the electrical system. When the engine runs, it automatically generates current, some of which is routed continuously to the battery to recharge it.

                    Remember, a battery does not 'produce' electricity, it is akin to a reservoir that stores & provides energy in the form of electricity when needed. When the electricity is drawn, it leads to a discharge, which the bike's electrical system needs to recharge to bring battery storage levels back to the brim.

                    It remains to be proven whether or not the ZMA's electrical system is capable of recharging a larger capacity battery. In the interests of safety meanwhile, upgrading the light and horn along with the battery seem to be the right thing to do.

                    Worst case scenario? The battery wont get recharged enough and *may* need replacement before the end of its design life. No biggie, batteries luckily don't cost the moon.

                    If your battery needs to be replaced, then go with a 9AH.
                    Bang on!!
                    HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                    Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                    Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                    • hey guys..hav a query...
                      my bike has done 20k...
                      m plannin to replace the stock air filter wit a K&N...
                      jus wanted to knw wat effect will the K&N hav on the performance aand on the fuel efficinecy of the bike????????
                      also plz tell me in detail if any tuning of the carb or the engine is to be done....
                      plz post as quick as possible guys....m gna replace the filter the nxt month itself...

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                      • Originally posted by omkarm89 View Post
                        hey guys..hav a query...
                        my bike has done 20k...
                        m plannin to replace the stock air filter wit a K&N...
                        jus wanted to knw wat effect will the K&N hav on the performance aand on the fuel efficinecy of the bike????????
                        also plz tell me in detail if any tuning of the carb or the engine is to be done....
                        plz post as quick as possible guys....m gna replace the filter the nxt month itself...
                        Omkar,


                        Automobile: My Trust, K&N Filters!!!!!!!!!!!
                        this might help!
                        The authour chinmany happens to be xbhian as well.


                        Sandeep
                        ***Correct me if I am wrong :)

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                        • And a larger battery funda only works if you give the battery sufficient time to charge between drainages. This wont happen, for instance, if you ride only at night.
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                          • Originally posted by sanoj View Post
                            I just a Spider Eco Dual Horns a month ago.... had a few problems initially because of the relay problem.....
                            Make sure you have a good relay n please do not go musical relay as they suck.... n please goto a good auto electrician to get it fixed or else u will regret it(because i did initially )...
                            Finally the horns are awesome ..................
                            Thanks for sharing your experience, I am going in for the same.

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                            • Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                              Dude, a battery is not an energy producer. You have to put in what you take out. So where will it get its juice? The charging system may not be upto supplying that juice.
                              Originally posted by nirvan View Post
                              Siva001:

                              In the interests of safety, the stock ZMA horn and lights need to be upgraded, no question about it. The upgrades are eminently affordable and are easily performed. IMO it is a no-brainer to have these done as soon as possible.

                              These upgrades need more energy, which a larger capacity battery can provide. Under standard conditions, A 7 ampere hour battery can provide 7 amperes of current for one hour. A 9 ampere hour battery can provide 9 amperes over that same period of one hour. It can simply store more current, not to be confused with voltage. It is incorrect to assume that using a battery with a higher AH rating will cause damage to the electrical system. When the engine runs, its alternator continuously generates current, some of which is routed to the battery to recharge it.

                              Remember, a battery does not 'produce' electricity, it is akin to a reservoir that stores & provides energy in the form of electricity when needed. When the electricity is drawn, it leads to a discharge, which the bike's electrical system needs to recharge to bring battery storage levels back to the brim.

                              It remains to be proven whether or not the ZMA's electrical system is capable of recharging a 2AH larger capacity battery. In the interests of safety meanwhile, upgrading the light and horn along with the battery seem to be the right thing to do.

                              Worst case scenario? The battery wont get recharged enough and *may* need replacement before the end of its design life. No biggie, batteries luckily don't cost the moon.

                              If your battery needs to be replaced, then go with a 9AH, which will make it capable to give your bike the extra juice as and when needed.
                              Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                              And a larger battery funda only works if you give the battery sufficient time to charge between drainages. This wont happen, for instance, if you ride only at night.
                              Well said and point taken. I did not mean that a battery will produce electricity, a higher capacity will have enough power to cater to increased load when demand requires. Planning for a dual horn upgrade soon, if it increases battery consumption and weakens it again, I would upgrade or else would stick to stock. Thanks all for your inputs.

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                              • i think the stock horn is ok, better than cbz

                                my friend got roots horn in his bran new zma 6 month back and now his battery is finished........warranty void too.
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