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  • #436
    Originally posted by praveenkm View Post
    That we have to whether its cheap of expensive. But happened in the middle of a trip so lost around 700 kms on the odo.

    Any way whats the rear tire ur ZMA running on? cost and feed back please.
    Same thing happened with my Zma recently it rolled 50Kms when actually I did arnd 350,In my case it was both speedo cable and the box in the wheel.

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    • #437
      Ok. Its 2 cases now.
      @All: How many of you have faced problems with your ZMA's speedo cable/speedo unit?[Apart from the fuel guage issues].
      Mine had a temporary problem during heavy rains. Moisture had got into the connections, which led the speedo to read much slower than the actual speed.

      AND No one replied to my query above!!!
      Last edited by 46wannabe; 01-29-2009, 02:22 AM.
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      1)Thank thy God for being alive.
      2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
      3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
      4)Love thy bike as thy self.
      5)Always wear safety gear.
      6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
      7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
      8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
      9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
      10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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      • #438
        Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
        @All: Also, I'd like to state that one of the throttle cables of my ZMA broke at around 9,000kms. Right now its 15,300kms (approx.) I haven't replaced it as yet. Would this cause any problem? It just has extra unadjustable free play for now.
        What has been stopping you to replace the cable? It costs around 70 bucks. Would you like to wait till the other cable too go in the same way, stopping you in the middle of somewhere? Always keep spare of these cables at home; would be helpful when in need. You know, sometimes you will not get these cables that easy.

        Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
        ONE QUERY: Till date, only the Karizma and now the GS150R have dual throttle cables among the Desi Bikes. Experts, what's the difference between a single throttle cable(present even on the R15, P220 & RTR Fi) and a dual throttle cable? I Will be asking this to the magazines as well. Let's see
        Actually, I do not have any idea about this.

        Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
        Ok. Its 2 cases now.
        @All: How many of you have faced problems with your ZMA's speedo cable/speedo unit?[Apart from the fuel guage issues].
        Mine had a temporary problem during heavy rains. Moisture had got into the connections, which led the speedo to read much slower than the actual speed.

        AND No one replied to my query above!!!
        After 32k, with severe shaking of bike on bad roads (recently while going to kodachadri, between Chitradurga and Shimoga where the road is worse and cruised on these roads at 70 kmph holding the handle very tight) the gear in the wheel gave way and had to replace the entire set.

        These small problems now and then would appear based on the use. Do not worry much about them.
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        • #439
          Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
          Did you check the chain? a new chain gets a little loose quickly.

          Also check the silencer heat shield!
          Thanks HydBiker for your reply. You are absolutely right. These two can often be source of sound. But, I have checked both. The sound is not coming from any of those. I will be taking my bike to one of the authorized automatic service centers of HH. Let's see what they have to say.
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          • #440
            Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
            Dude! How many kms has ur ZMA run? either you always ride with a tank that is half full or you some how ignored this issue all this while.
            Or maybe your just kidding and i'm barking for no damn reason.
            My ZiMA has run around 30K..!! And i started observing this since some months back since the time i got the ignition cable changed(which is present below the speedo console)..!!

            Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
            Ok. Its 2 cases now.
            @All: How many of you have faced problems with your ZMA's speedo cable/speedo unit?[Apart from the fuel guage issues].
            Mine had a temporary problem during heavy rains. Moisture had got into the connections, which led the speedo to read much slower than the actual speed.
            Nope...didnt face any issues with the speedo/speedo cable..!

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            • #441
              Any idea how much is the ZMA front brake disc (Not disc pad) costs?
              Any alternative after market disc available??

              Thanks in advance for any help
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              • #442
                Originally posted by rahul20_6 View Post
                Any idea how much is the ZMA front brake disc (Not disc pad) costs?
                Any alternative after market disc available??

                Thanks in advance for any help
                This would be expensive. My guess, a new set would cost at least 4K. For alternatives, you gotta check two things - 1) mount points 2) something that is made for same or similar sized disc

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                • #443
                  I had the problem with the speedo showing low values.

                  I hadn't realised it till, one day I saw the digi read out of a RTR next to me, showing 80kph while mine was showing 60. It progressively worsened till it wouldn't go beyond 40kph

                  I got it replaced at the service center free of charge.
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                  • #444
                    The front disc costs about 2.3k. Had changed it a couple of months back.

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                    • #445
                      Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                      ...months back since the time i got the ignition cable changed(which is present below the speedo console)..!!
                      I thought it was below the tank! Is it by any chance connected to the ignition switch? Pardon my ignorance.

                      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                      What has been stopping you to replace the cable? It costs around 70 bucks. Would you like to wait till the other cable too go in the same way, stopping you in the middle of somewhere? Always keep spare of these cables at home; would be helpful when in need. You know, sometimes you will not get these cables that easy.
                      Point taken bro!. 70 Rupees! That guy told me 150 bucks! The service guys always do this.


                      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                      After 32k, with severe shaking of bike on bad roads (recently while going to kodachadri, between Chitradurga and Shimoga where the road is worse and cruised on these roads at 70 kmph holding the handle very tight) the gear in the wheel gave way and had to replace the entire set.
                      Whoah!!
                      Last edited by 46wannabe; 01-29-2009, 04:07 PM.
                      10 Commandments:
                      1)Thank thy God for being alive.
                      2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
                      3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
                      4)Love thy bike as thy self.
                      5)Always wear safety gear.
                      6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
                      7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
                      8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
                      9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
                      10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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                      • #446
                        Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
                        I thought it was below the tank! Is it by any chance connected to the ignition switch? Pardon my ignorance.
                        Yup its connected to the ignition switch....but i dont think so its located below the tank.!

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                        • #447
                          Hows service at Nikhi motors Bangalore? any guys have any experiences there? My ZMA id due for 1st service by EOW.

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                          • #448
                            Originally posted by rahul20_6 View Post
                            Any idea how much is the ZMA front brake disc (Not disc pad) costs?
                            Any alternative after market disc available??

                            Thanks in advance for any help
                            After market Disc plates are available too....as i can remember the last when i was there at my mech's place for the servicing of my bike...he was installing a new disc plate for another ZiMA...!! I asked him the price for that...he told just 1300 bucks..!!! But, i didnt ask for company and make though that time

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                            • #449
                              @ravi@17bhp;inder.cool: Just got my bike serviced yesterday from a local mech. Spoke to quite a few fellows and some friends. His work is good. Anywho, the mech tells me that the second cable is just a return-cable, as in it is there only for closing the throttle. My brother had said the same thing, but still need to confirm this by some experts. As we all know the main throtle cable itself already does this task of closing the throttle as it is spring loaded at the carb. (correct me if i'm wrong though).
                              The mech says that he's seen a few Karizmas that have broken this cable. He says it doesn't make a difference at all. Don't know till how far this is true though. And as per what I remember, even the service guy at the authorised station had told me the same thing when I got it checked by him back when the cable had broken.

                              Still need to verify all this though. But yes, tomorrow will go and buy spare cables for the main throttle wire and some for the second cable as well.

                              Any comments regarding what the mech said about the second cable??

                              NOTE: If you look at the connecting points, the main cable connects clockwise(if you view the cross-section from the right hand bar-end) while the second one connects from the other side in counter clock direction.
                              Last edited by 46wannabe; 02-01-2009, 06:09 PM.
                              10 Commandments:
                              1)Thank thy God for being alive.
                              2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
                              3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
                              4)Love thy bike as thy self.
                              5)Always wear safety gear.
                              6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
                              7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
                              8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
                              9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
                              10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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                              • #450
                                Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
                                @ravi@17bhp;inder.cool: Just got my bike serviced yesterday from a local mech. Spoke to quite a few fellows and some friends. His work is good. Anywho, the mech tells me that the second cable is just a return-cable, as in it is there only for closing the throttle. My brother had said the same thing, but still need to confirm this by some experts. As we all know the main throtle cable itself already does this task of closing the throttle as it is spring loaded at the carb. (correct me if i'm wrong though).
                                The mech says that he's seen a few Karizmas that have broken this cable. He says it doesn't make a difference at all. Don't know till how far this is true though. And as per what I remember, even the service guy at the authorised station had told me the same thing when I got it checked by him back when the cable had broken.

                                Still need to verify all this though. But yes, tomorrow will go and buy spare cables for the main throttle wire and some for the second cable as well.

                                Any comments regarding what the mech said about the second cable??

                                NOTE: If you look at the connecting points, the main cable connects clockwise(if you view the cross-section from the right hand bar-end) while the second one connects from the other side in counter clock direction.
                                What the mechanic told is absolutely right. It is a know fact that the return cable is to close the throttle. A single cable with return spring also does the same function. But, we do not know why it is given like that. I think this is not an issue to wrack our heads.

                                Yes, you can run the bike without any problems with a cut return cable. But, think like this, you have to return the throttle manually while applying clutch to change the gears. Any mismatch during this cycle would result in bad gearshifting which is very bad for clutch plates.
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