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  • ^^^Thats right. And both types have the same octane rating, as of now (91)... as reported by the oil companies.

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    • Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
      Well... so what about it? Its typical marketing rhetoric. But whats that page got to do with what I said??
      You said that "Premium/Boosted" fuel is ordinary fuel + additives....!! But actually what i wanted to convey thru that article was that it is not ordinary fuel + additives rather it is higher octane fuel + additives...!!! And, also with this a few additional benefits(listed in the article) are given by this fuel..!!

      Hope my point was clear..!

      Originally posted by mithun.08 View Post
      Small correction, premium is 91, 93 is no more available
      You said it right that 93 octane is not available now...!!

      But, by premium did u mean "Xtra Premium" fuel by Indian oil which is 91 octane OR "premium" fuel which also includes Speed97 by BP..!

      Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
      ^^^Thats right. And both types have the same octane rating, as of now (91)... as reported by the oil companies.
      91 Octane fuel is offered by Indian oil co. by the name of "Xtra premium" but even higher octane fuel is available(as i said above)..!!
      Last edited by inder.cool; 01-20-2009, 08:30 PM. Reason: typo

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      • guess then...any idea what the knocking could be?

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        • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post



          You said it right that 93 octane is not available now...!!

          But, by premium did u mean "Xtra Premium" fuel by Indian oil which is 91 octane OR "premium" fuel which also includes Speed97 by BP..!
          which also includes Speed 97, didnt mention it because many dont use and our bikes can run on normal fuel without any problems
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          • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
            You said that "Premium/Boosted" fuel is ordinary fuel + additives....!! But actually what i wanted to convey thru that article was that it is not ordinary fuel + additives rather it is higher octane fuel + additives...!!! And, also with this a few additional benefits(listed in the article) are given by this fuel..!!

            Hope my point was clear..!

            Dude, as I said before, both ordinary and premium have the same octane. Here, by premium I mean 91 octane speed/xtra premium, etc.


            But, by premium did u mean "Xtra Premium" fuel by Indian oil which is 91 octane OR "premium" fuel which also includes Speed97 by BP..!

            91 Octane fuel is offered by Indian oil co. by the name of "Xtra premium" but even higher octane fuel is available(as i said above)..!!
            Now the point is, if you want higher octane, go for Speed 97. Adding octane boosters will only help the manufacturing company, not your bike! And technically, Speed 97 will NOT help most Indian vehicles (bikes or cars). Some people report better performance with Speed 97. Its either psychological, or its possible that the performance of 91 octane dips further down, due to adulteration. If that happens, naturally 97 octane petrol will seem better! Almost all petrol we get is adulterated to varying extent. Its a huge racket...

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            • 97 octane is not very highly recommended for older engines due to the ernomous amount of heat generated. Back to the original point KNOCKING!!..

              Blade can you please give more details, when does the knocking occur(RPM), kms on the ODO etc
              and what you think is knocking can be other issues lik tappet adjustments too
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              • Originally posted by vinfreak View Post
                97 octane is not very highly recommended for older engines due to the ernomous amount of heat generated. Back to the original point KNOCKING!!..
                Huh!?!?!? No dude... I see loads of misconceptions regarding fuels in this thread! Higher octane fuel does not mean it has more energy value!

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                • Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                  Huh!?!?!? No dude... I see loads of misconceptions regarding fuels in this thread! Higher octane fuel does not mean it has more energy value!
                  I dint mean to say that it has more energy, but meant that more heat is generated if a higher octane fuel is used due to higher compression ratios and the ocaten rating, which is nothing but the fuels resistance to burning.
                  "Bikes + Music = Nirvana"

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                  • Originally posted by blade7 View Post
                    guess then...any idea what the knocking could be?
                    Please check you spark plug gap and the ignition timing.
                    "Bikes + Music = Nirvana"

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                    • Originally posted by vinfreak View Post
                      I dint mean to say that it has more energy, but meant that more heat is generated if a higher octane fuel is used due to higher compression ratios and the ocaten rating, which is nothing but the fuels resistance to burning.
                      But the compression ratios in our bikes/cars aren't gonna a whit higher than what they are designed for, if you use higher octane!! Using higher octane will not generate more heat!

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                      • Originally posted by mithun.08 View Post
                        which also includes Speed 97, didnt mention it because many dont use and our bikes can run on normal fuel without any problems
                        Ya agree on the part that it is not required But, for additional benefits you can always go in for the higher octane fuels...

                        Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                        Now the point is, if you want higher octane, go for Speed 97. Adding octane boosters will only help the manufacturing company, not your bike! And technically, Speed 97 will NOT help most Indian vehicles (bikes or cars). Some people report better performance with Speed 97. Its either psychological, or its possible that the performance of 91 octane dips further down, due to adulteration. If that happens, naturally 97 octane petrol will seem better!
                        I(on my ZiMA) and one friend of mine(niranjan, xbhp id: niranjanvaidya) on his P220 have experienced that the bike runs pretty smooth and accelerates pretty fast with Speed97...!!

                        Just one question though...have you ever fueled in with Speed97..??

                        Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                        Almost all petrol we get is adulterated to varying extent. Its a huge racket...
                        Buy petrol from authorised dealers only...Then you wud not get adulterated fuel...and to double check this check respective sites and find out about the official retailers..!

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                        • i`m planning to put the pulsar 220 fairing mirrors on my zma-r red colour..will upload pics once its done..have already bought the mirrors..500 bucks a pair..now need to find a good mechanic to get the work done..

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                          • Inder, I filled speed 97 for both my car and bike and both the vehicles choked on this fuel. Both my vehicles are running very smooth on normal unleaded fuel. May be different bikes behave differently to high octanes.
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                            • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post

                              I(on my ZiMA) and one friend of mine(niranjan, xbhp id: niranjanvaidya) on his P220 have experienced that the bike runs pretty smooth and accelerates pretty fast with Speed97...!!

                              Just one question though...have you ever fueled in with Speed97..??

                              Buy petrol from authorised dealers only...Then you wud not get adulterated fuel...and to double check this check respective sites and find out about the official retailers..!
                              About Speed 97, as I said, technically its just not possible... you might be noticing the difference due to the reason I mentioned. Anyway, if it works for you, its fine... using gasolene of higher than required rating does not usually harm.

                              No I haven't used Speed 97 yet. Was tempted once, but the price put me off.

                              What do you mean by authorised dealers? Do you mean company operated bunks? Even then its not guaranteed that its not adulterated... mebbe at best less adulterated.

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                              • Guys, do u suggest that i do a long ride on my bike bout 300km both ways?? its just 100kms old. Just a little sceptical, opinions and views please!!
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