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**nirvan** · 01-19-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by gautham747 View Post

I fitted my 2008 HH karizmaR with a two piece hand bar...after the fitting both the clutch and hand bar became hard to use...they are very tight and does not operate very freely especially the gear,they are very hard to use...so guys plz help me......

advice me whether i should replace the original hand bar or can i any tune the bike to operate freely......

The cones are the first place to look. Check cable routing as well.

However, it sounds like the two-piece handlebars are smaller (in width) and are probably shorter (in height) than the stock ones. This reduces the moment and will need higher inputs from the rider.

Try it for a few more days and if you still don't like it, revert to stock.

**blade7** · 01-20-2009, 12:35 PM

Guys..i had taken my ZMA to the service center due to vibration issues...

The service rep over there told me that the engine foundation bolts were loose and had to be tightened (general oiling and greasing work was also done)..the vibration has gone now but the bike has some kinda knocking sound when i ride it from first to fifth gear..bike doesnt seem that smooth

the sound gets a wee bit louder as and when i give throttle.

I spoke to the rep...he told me the issue might be cause the bike was earlier running on speed 93 and i should use regular fuel..i emptied the tank and now am using regular fuel.

he said the sound should go off in a few days...of riding my bike..

Is all of that true?

pls help..

**inder.cool** · 01-20-2009, 01:23 PM

@ Blade7 : To some extent knocking is caused due changing of the fuel used as earlier you were using premium one but now you are using a normal one...!! So, wait for some days let the bike get used to the normal fuel then it would get back to normal..!!

OR

I would suggest that you continue using the Premium fuel only...as the bike performes better with a better fuel..!!

**Raccoon** · 01-20-2009, 01:51 PM

Blade7, the service centre guy is giving you lotta crap. Use of either Speed or normal petrol will hardly make a noticible difference (in your kinda case). Yes, adulterated fuel will make a BIG difference!! And Hondas dont make the kind of bikes where problems vanish after riding the bike for a few days.

**vinfreak** · 01-20-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by blade7 View Post

Guys..i had taken my ZMA to the service center due to vibration issues...

The service rep over there told me that the engine foundation bolts were loose and had to be tightened (general oiling and greasing work was also done)..the vibration has gone now but the bike has some kinda knocking sound when i ride it from first to fifth gear..bike doesnt seem that smooth

the sound gets a wee bit louder as and when i give throttle.

I spoke to the rep...he told me the issue might be cause the bike was earlier running on speed 93 and i should use regular fuel..i emptied the tank and now am using regular fuel.

he said the sound should go off in a few days...of riding my bike..

Is all of that true?

pls help..

I dont think that the knocking will be due to the kind of petrol. How many KMS has your ZMA done till now and at what RPM do you normally shift gears??

**Sandeep_K_Ram** · 01-20-2009, 05:05 PM

knocking, pinging etc ... some "experts" - have posted on many different forums saying that boosted fuel can cause those problems in some bikes.

Classic example is the use of boosted fuel on new gen Pulsars.... for the un-initiated..there is a P220 club on kut - where you find a lot of info posted by "experts" ...

Anyway, point is ...its advisable not to "mix" the two fuels ...you can use any kind of fuel as long as you are not running half a tank of boosted and half a tank of regular petrol..that is what I was told by these "experts". Since I use only regular- I have not experienced such issues.

**Deepakumar** · 01-20-2009, 05:56 PM

Guyz my osram night breaker is not tht white on high beam, could some one tell me wutz the problem?..

**Raccoon** · 01-20-2009, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by Sandeep_K_Ram View Post

knocking, pinging etc ... some "experts" - have posted on many different forums saying that boosted fuel can cause those problems in some bikes.

Classic example is the use of boosted fuel on new gen Pulsars.... for the un-initiated..there is a P220 club on kut - where you find a lot of info posted by "experts" ...

Anyway, point is ...its advisable not to "mix" the two fuels ...you can use any kind of fuel as long as you are not running half a tank of boosted and half a tank of regular petrol..that is what I was told by these "experts". Since I use only regular- I have not experienced such issues.

What is "boosted" fuel?

If "premium" is ordinary fuel+additives, then there might not be any real harm in mixing ordinary fuel with premium. But yes, the benifits of premium fuel in the tank will diminish, as the additives will be diluted.

**inder.cool** · 01-20-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Raccoon View Post

What is "boosted" fuel?

"Boosted" fuel means the fuel with octane boosters. For eg. Shell offers 91 octane fuel, BP offers Speed97,etc..!!

the above mentioned fuels are higher octane content than the normal fuel that is normally 87 octane..!

**Raccoon** · 01-20-2009, 06:18 PM

^^^Dude, thats not right. Octane of gasolene is something thats determined at the refining stage.

If you mean increasing octane by adding aftermarket additives, they shouldn't be used anyway. Why? Cus they don't/can't work...

**inder.cool** · 01-20-2009, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Raccoon View Post

^^^Dude, thats not right. Octane of gasolene is something thats determined at the refining stage.

If you mean increasing octane by adding aftermarket additives, they shouldn't be used anyway. Why? Cus they don't/can't work...

Check this article ..!!! Then it might click you the meaning of normal petrol + additives..!!

A short para from the article:

Speed 97 is a unique blend of high-octane petrol with specially designed components. It also contains world-class multi-functional additive, which enables high performance vehicles to deliver their designed outputs by removing harmful deposits from all fuel metering systems and components. Speed 97 is formulated for those who care about their car, it's a petrol as advanced as today's latest high performance engine and comes from years of research into what drivers really want from their cars.

To reiterate the benefits to the customers will be
• Better responsiveness.
• Maximum power output
• Cleaner Environment
• Improved drivability

**vinfreak** · 01-20-2009, 06:48 PM

100kms done!!

Guys just completed 100kms on the ODO today, yeah i know its very slow considering that i have had the bike for 1 week

. No window to test the performance as yet

. But the bike feels very smooth, no niggles what so ever.

**Raccoon** · 01-20-2009, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by inder.cool View Post

Check this article ..!!! Then it might click you the meaning of normal petrol + additives..!!

A short para from the article:

Well... so what about it?

Its typical marketing rhetoric. But whats that page got to do with what I said??

**vinfreak** · 01-20-2009, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Raccoon View Post

What is "boosted" fuel?

If "premium" is ordinary fuel+additives, then there might not be any real harm in mixing ordinary fuel with premium. But yes, the benifits of premium fuel in the tank will diminish, as the additives will be diluted.

Premium is not Ordinary + Additives. You said it right, there are additives added but those are to Gasoline with a higher octane rating.
In india normal petrol is 87 octane and premium is 93 octane.

**mithun.08** · 01-20-2009, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by vinfreak View Post

Premium is not Ordinary + Additives. You said it right, there are additives added but those are to Gasoline with a higher octane rating.
In india normal petrol is 87 octane and premium is 93 octane.

Small correction, premium is 91, 93 is no more available

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