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  • #4501
    Originally posted by psr View Post
    Increasing one tooth at front increases final drive ratio,ie., you will achieve same speeds at approx.,500 rpm less than before. and dropping 2 or 3 teeth at rear sprocket has the same effect..it is all about ratios..Advantages ? well you will cruise at higher speeds at lesser RPM and bike will not be stressed .But beyond a level your top end will actually drop due to the engine unable to Rev to higher RPM, and the bike load will either lead to clutch slip or engine RPM cannot go up due to loading beyond design.
    I am a newbie bro,so thanks for the help bro..

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    • #4502
      Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
      I am a newbie bro,so thanks for the help bro..
      glad i can be of help.
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • #4503
        Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post
        Interesting discussion going on on sprocket. Here's a pic of my front sprocket. Has done 21k. Both front and back are in same condition. Been running without chain cover since day one. Seems good to me. What do you think?

        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
        Mine

        just one doubt, are you guys sitting besid your bike with its front sprocket cover opened ? Just curious because of your instant response with pictures


        Originally posted by psr View Post
        Increasing one tooth at front increases final drive ratio,ie., you will achieve same speeds at approx.,500 rpm less than before. and dropping 2 or 3 teeth at rear sprocket has the same effect..it is all about ratios..Advantages ? well you will cruise at higher speeds at lesser RPM and bike will not be stressed .But beyond a level your top end will actually drop due to the engine unable to Rev to higher RPM, and the bike load will either lead to clutch slip or engine RPM cannot go up due to loading beyond design.

        Again agreed but with my current setup, just like a stock bike, my bike hit 100 at same 6000rpm. That means the ratio is same na?? Correct me if am wrong. The only advantage is that i can use thinner chain(uni's chain is quiet thinner compare to zma).
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        • #4504
          Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
          just one doubt, are you guys sitting besid your bike with its front sprocket cover opened ? Just curious because of your instant response with pictures
          I have pics of my bike saved in my pc

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          • #4505
            Everyone knows about the karizma cam tensioner problem,i also faced the same problem before,can we use unicorn's tensioner in karizma?is it a direct fit?

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            • #4506
              Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
              Again agreed but with my current setup, just like a stock bike, my bike hit 100 at same 6000rpm. That means the ratio is same na?? Correct me if am wrong. The only advantage is that i can use thinner chain(uni's chain is quiet thinner compare to zma).
              Yes the ratio is nearly same. Stock is 13 front and 40 rear, so the RPM to speed remains almost same..Using a thinner chain is not advisable for ZMA since the amount of torque it develops will elongate the chain and eat up the sprockets quicker than stock.
              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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              • #4507
                Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                Everyone knows about the karizma cam tensioner problem,i also faced the same problem before,can we use unicorn's tensioner in karizma?is it a direct fit?
                My bike at 21,550 is still stock....some had used the Pulsar 180 or 220 cam chain tensioner..Since I had not done it so far cannot comment on the feasibility.
                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                • #4508
                  Originally posted by psr View Post
                  My bike at 21,550 is still stock....some had used the Pulsar 180 or 220 cam chain tensioner..Since I had not done it so far cannot comment on the feasibility.
                  Anyone from xbhp tried this?Checked out THIS thread,but no one found a complete solution for the problem
                  Last edited by Aneesh@4GHz; 03-28-2011, 08:11 PM.

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                  • #4509
                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    I bought a pre-owned 2007 ZMA just a month back with 21,550 on odo Red in color, and maintained well.

                    I also have a 24 yr old KB100.
                    which all bikes were in your list before buying?what made you choose kariZma. How much you paid?

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                    • #4510
                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      No just the annoying chain noise...reverse the sprocket and you will have peace for some time.
                      Bro,don't say it is annoying. KariZma has a charecteristic chain noise (like superbikes)which is due to the fact that the chain is aluminium coated,i think. And itz quite enjoyable.
                      Last edited by Jerrin; 03-28-2011, 08:46 PM.

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                      • #4511
                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        What are the advantages of using these sprockets?
                        advantage is nothing in this case because increment by one in gearbox sprocket is equivalent to reduction by 3 in rear sprocket

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                        • #4512
                          Originally posted by Jerrin View Post
                          which all bikes were in your list before buying?what made you choose kariZma. How much you paid?
                          The bikes I owned is in my profile.....Karizma for engine refinement at any speed and RPM,as also stability. 41K. Thought of P180,TVS Apache 150,and Karizma.
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                          • #4513
                            Originally posted by psr View Post
                            Yes the ratio is nearly same. Stock is 13 front and 40 rear, so the RPM to speed remains almost same..Using a thinner chain is not advisable for ZMA since the amount of torque it develops will elongate the chain and eat up the sprockets quicker than stock.
                            yes will wear thin easily but performance wise its better na?
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                            • #4514
                              Originally posted by Jerrin View Post
                              Bro,don't say it is annoying. KariZma has a charecteristic chain noise (like superbikes)which is due to the fact that the chain is aluminium coated,i think. And itz quite enjoyable.
                              Chain not Aluminum coated...the chain noise is annoying because the engine is so refined and silent,and we expect the other parts of the bike to have the same.
                              Honda engines are all about refinement,and reliability.This engine is still manufactured and used in other countries also.
                              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                              • #4515
                                Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
                                yes will wear thin easily but performance wise its better na?
                                How will it improve performance ?...your sprocket ratio is the same and a thinner than recommended chain can elongate or break under load stress.
                                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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