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**roy_vicky** · 03-28-2011, 09:37 PM

today i saw 2 black karizma 2011

was not looking as good as 2007 black karizma.....[ personel opi ]

**vineeth aredath** · 03-28-2011, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

How will it improve performance ?...your sprocket ratio is the same and a thinner than recommended chain can elongate or break under load stress.

sir am not an expert in this but all i know is that by using lighter chain=less weight load on sprockets.
And about the wear and tear, am using the same sprocket from past 6k kms with out any cover in a non stock bike(ported, overbored, ffe, rejetted and some other stuffs ). Means i have every single unfavourable conditions which can spoil the chain but still Its going good and If this set last for some 17k kms then its kinda vasool na any way, i would like to wait and watch.

**anmol_1990** · 03-28-2011, 10:58 PM

My bike has covered 11,000 KM, when the engine is hot, very little tuck tuck sound comes when engine is idling, though sound is very small. Is this related to tappet issue or what?

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 03-28-2011, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

very little tuck tuck sound comes when engine is idling, though sound is very small. Is this related to tappet issue or what?

I think its the Cam tensioner problem.had the same problem before,will cost you about 2000rs for the oem cam tensioner.I had the problem @ 12000kms

**anmol_1990** · 03-29-2011, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

I think its the Cam tensioner problem.had the same problem before,will cost you about 2000rs for the oem cam tensioner.I had the problem @ 12000kms

sorry for the stupid question

...but what will happen if we don't replace this cam tensioner?

**krUnIzZlE** · 03-29-2011, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post

tough task. You may have to change the whole panel and the bulb underneath it. Yes changing the bulb is possible but that yello surface??
I think the bulb is normal amber coloured one, its the panel surface which colour the whole unit into yello.

oh... I guess i would have to open it up and see or look at pics or something...

Originally posted by vikashsree14341 View Post

i would say better stick to stock bro..
changing the lights cn be done but itz bit tuf job.. i once thought of doing it bt mi mechanic said bttr dont alter ny thing or u will end with an damaged lights

ohh, Im sure if i just change the bulbs to a really bright white one, then it will prolly look more brighter yellow

Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

If i remember someone from xbhp has done this mod to their karizma andm pulsar, search here on xbhp other forums, u will find out.

I found the blue pulsar one... but no luck on the karizma lights....

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Thanx to all who replied....

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 03-29-2011, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

sorry for the stupid question

...but what will happen if we don't replace this cam tensioner?

The tak tak sound continues

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 03-29-2011, 10:43 AM

Latest News About Karizma's Chain Tensioner Price

Hero Honda had reduced the price of karizma's OEM Chain tensioner to RS 420 (Pricol made)

Source:XBhp

**kaynmantis** · 03-29-2011, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

You had maintained the Bike and it's drive train properly,and THAT makes a significant difference...

Thanks. Am quiet fanatical about maintaining my chain. This is one reason I have it opened. This way I can see the whenever it requires adjustment or cleaning easily.

Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post

just one doubt, are you guys sitting besid your bike with its front sprocket cover opened ? Just curious because of your instant response with pictures

No. Its got a built-in camera directly linked to internet

. Seriously, I clean them quiet often, this ones the most recent and co-incidentally, I happen to take pictures.

Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post

sir am not an expert in this but all i know is that by using lighter chain=less weight load on sprockets.
...

Same thought here and I believe it will definitely boost performance marginally. Though I am incline to believe that wear and tear will hardly make a difference and will depend more on the material than the chain. My reason, consider this, a 100-150 cc bike with pillion will be putting more stress on the chain than my Zma without pillion which btw is almost always. And those smaller bikes that regularly carries pillion seems to be doing fine.

**psr** · 03-29-2011, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post

sir am not an expert in this but all i know is that by using lighter chain=less weight load on sprockets.
The sprocket load is from the engine drive and the load of the bike..not the chain
And about the wear and tear, am using the same sprocket from past 6k kms with out any cover in a non stock bike(ported, overbored, ffe, rejetted and some other stuffs ). Means i have every single unfavourable conditions which can spoil the chain but still Its going good and If this set last for some 17k kms then its kinda vasool na any way, i would like to wait and watch.

Yes wait and watch.....but how we ride the bike also matters.

Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

My bike has covered 11,000 KM, when the engine is hot, very little tuck tuck sound comes when engine is idling, though sound is very small. Is this related to tappet issue or what?

It is likely to be the tappet noise ..get it checked at SVC

Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post

Thanks. Am quiet fanatical about maintaining my chain. This is one reason I have it opened. This way I can see the whenever it requires adjustment or cleaning easily.

Hence it is in good maintenance and condition

Same thought here and I believe it will definitely boost performance marginally. Though I am incline to believe that wear and tear will hardly make a difference and will depend more on the material than the chain. My reason, consider this, a 100-150 cc bike with pillion will be putting more stress on the chain than my Zma without pillion which btw is almost always. And those smaller bikes that regularly carries pillion seems to be doing fine.
It is all about the power and torque of the engine..will these 100cc do 0-60 in under 5 sec...which ZMA can do.....if you still want to know...start moving the ZMA in 2nd gear with pillion, and try the same with other bikes.
If there is even Rs.1/- to be saved the manufacturer will do it..since profit is the motivation of business..

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**Naveen1985** · 03-29-2011, 11:03 PM

help me to choose between rtr180 and zma

I am totally confused...
I travel almost 35-50 kms daily by bike and long ride on month end frm delhi to my home town which is 110 kms (approx) from delhi + I wud love to go for rides ranging frm 500 to 1000 kms ocassionaly Kindly let me know which is better option regarding performance, reliablity, build quality, maintainence cost, mileage and comfort ie overall package.

Also let me know which is better in terms of reliablity and build quality (fit and finish, quality of parts and paint job) as these two points are my priority coz i don like to visit service station for small niggles and this will be my first bike outside hero honda brand

i just love karizma coz of its road presence, smoothness and refinement but all my frends says it is low on feature list as compared to bikes like rtr180 and p220 and it is quite heavy on pocket due its mileage and maintainece cost (like its spares are very expensive) but i guess it will be hassle free then other bikes as its hero honda and it will not require spares very often in front of rtr and pulsars

so please through some lite on the pros and cons of zma

also let me know which will suit me better in terms of looks according to my height and weight(coz some of my friends who have apaches always points me that karizma will not suit you)
my height is 5.9 feet and weight is 70-72 kgs

**Naveen1985** · 03-29-2011, 11:09 PM

I am eagerly waiting for replies from all senior members and zma owners....

**anmol_1990** · 03-29-2011, 11:52 PM

^^^

if you do trips like that you mentioned over 100 KM+ , look no further than a karizma.

**kaynmantis** · 03-29-2011, 11:55 PM