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**Vishakh** · 08-29-2011, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Who said 43kmpl was ZMA's best mileage???

45 is what HH is quoting so 43 in city is pretty neat i think

**abhash** · 08-29-2011, 09:27 PM

Reg. the authenticity of fiber parts, i can confirm that alteast the fairings do come with stickers pre applied from the factory

mine is a '05 model (golden 225 ones) but when i changed the fairing they came with "Karizma R" stickers.
and fairings were bought from the biggest HH dealer in MP

the zma's manual states that the brake oil should be replaced after 2 years, but i have never seen ASC guys changing the oil,, they just top it up and rather suggest against replacing it

should i replace the oil and if yes with which brand and should it be dot3/4??

**ashwinprakas** · 08-29-2011, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

45 is what HH is quoting so 43 in city is pretty neat i think

It is a Hero Honda!

Now don't get me wrong, this is no fill-it, shut-it, forget-it bike, quite the antithesis of the typical econo-misers Hero Honda is famous for. Even then it is not a hole burner in the wallet for the good intelligent bits on the engine (digital dual map ignition, CCVI carb) have proved beneficial in this vital operating trait as well. The Karizma recorded a 40.56kmpl overall Fuel Efficiency figure with a best of 54kmpl and a worst of 28kmpl (this being in our flat out testing runs). In our city cycle the Karizma, with a tolerant right hand can be made to deliver 40kmpl consistently but even with some spirited riding (and with such a bike you better be spirited) she will deliver around 34kmpl which is very good. The one irritant, if it can be called that, is that the Karizma has a 15-litre fuel tank which is smaller in comparison to the Pulsar, thereby also constricting its operating range.

Fuel Efficiency:

Source : Overdrive 2003.

**ashwinprakas** · 08-29-2011, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by abhash View Post

Reg. the authenticity of fiber parts, i can confirm that alteast the fairings do come with stickers pre applied from the factory

mine is a '05 model (golden 225 ones) but when i changed the fairing they came with "Karizma R" stickers.
and fairings were bought from the biggest HH dealer in MP

Yup. That means HH's generalizing spare parts, Bye bye pre 2011 spares.

**Vishakh** · 08-29-2011, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Source : Overdrive 2003.

too much economy means engine life will be lesser well my thought not sure

**ashwinprakas** · 08-29-2011, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

too much economy means engine life will be lesser well my thought not sure

In stock conditions any mileage whether higher than normal also means good.
More mileage, less engine life only happens when the bike has been manually tampered with or is old enough to sustain reasonable damage.

And another thing to keep under consideration is that Overdrive was talking about 2003 model, which generally means more aggressive acceleration with lesser mileage right? But since the above mentioned bike's giving a good mileage of 50+kmpl, then I guess the fact that it ultimately results on the rider is proven here.

Additional.
My worst mileage ever is 23kmpl.

**Royzone** · 08-29-2011, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

too much economy means engine life will be lesser well my thought not sure

I don't think good economy would mean lesser engine life. In fact it would be opposite.

Regarding this clutch engagement issue I found that it is much easier to upshift (with half pressed clutch) while accelerating than while riding at constant speed. This is quite expected as while accelerating you keep on increasing your RPM and so there is RPM matching on upshifting. I find it very annoying to fully press clutch and then upshift when I am trying to clock as good as possible 0-60, so I use half clutch technique.

**acs1207** · 08-29-2011, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

In my zen we can disengage at any RPM and upshifting can be done
Well , a car has neutral gear between all it's gears!!That was a good sale..., did you have to replace anything?Just replaced the spark plug with an NGK Iridium , changed the H/L bulb to 60/55 W . Also , I got a ROOTS Gladiator security system (aka - remote lock) with it .

Hehe.... C'mon dont tell me you never paid attention to you'r speedo???According to the ZMA speedo its at 55kmph,
Frankly , I just look at the speedo to see what speed I am doing . I've never noticed the 'optimum speed in gears ' marking

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

I think best results will be in between 55-60km/h.

At least that - is what I'm thinking .

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

thats true i ride at 70 - 80 kmph most of the time and i get 43 kmpl wereas below that speed i get less economy

80 would be when you get a free road . That means you are in top gear and less gear shifts and that means better mileage . In lower speeds you normally in a crowded road where you have to occasionally zoom , change gear and go very slow - means lower mileage .

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Who said 43kmpl was ZMA's best mileage???

Now now now , don't start that

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

45 is what HH is quoting so 43 in city is pretty neat i think

It's pretty neat

I'd be all smiles

if I get that .

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

It is a Hero Honda!
Now don't get me wrong, this is no fill-it, shut-it, forget-it bike, quite the antithesis of the typical econo-misers Hero Honda is famous for. Even then it is not a hole burner in the wallet for the good intelligent bits on the engine (digital dual map ignition, CCVI carb) have proved beneficial in this vital operating trait as well. The Karizma recorded a 40.56kmpl overall Fuel Efficiency figure with a best of 54kmpl
at what speed / RPM ?
and a worst of 28kmpl (this being in our flat out testing runs). In our city cycle the Karizma, with a tolerant right hand can be made to deliver 40kmpl consistently but even with some spirited riding (and with such a bike you better be spirited) she will deliver around 34kmpl which is very good. The one irritant, if it can be called that, is that the Karizma has a 15-litre fuel tank which is smaller in comparison to the Pulsar, thereby also constricting its operating range.

Fuel Efficiency:

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 08-29-2011, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

My worst mileage ever is 23kmpl.

Mine is 18.

**SriramEfunds** · 08-29-2011, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

LOl!!!

C'mon sir am I the only one who gets misunderstood here.

You have company? lol

I did not see anyone commented apart from you.

If I post a pic of me sitting on a ZMA which has puppy dog grafitti, what would be your first question????
Yup since ZMA's dont come that way you'd assume its custom painted, right?

I know for the fact ZMA did not make bikes for the kids and for sure it is a personal choice! How can you compare a fibre part with puppy dog grafitti? You could have as well ignored my post than coming up with some great intellect example of your thought process. I learned something from you today!

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 08-29-2011, 10:39 PM

^^^ Bro, you saw the PICS??

**ashwinprakas** · 08-29-2011, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

You have company? lol

I did not see anyone commented apart from you.

Yup sir was abit exited when I saw the pics(and was kinda hoping for them to be cheap replacements), thats a fact. I've been looking hard for ZMA replacement parts that are'nt authentic but of similar quality and way cheaper. But theres nothing up for now.

I know for the fact ZMA did not make bikes for the kids and for sure it is a personal choice! How can you compare a fibre part with puppy dog grafitti? You could have as well ignored my post than coming up with some great intellect example of your thought process. I learned something from you today!
Was just trying to prove my point sir, and the puppy dog grafitti was just an example. Take the dual tone pulsars for example. If you see me riding one you'd by default assume that I'd got it custom painted right??? UNLESS you've before hand got the news that the company's making them like that.

But still am confused why you stuck with my puppy dog example, dont you think its kinda odd??

And Hell Yeah!!! Im Unique!!!!

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Sorry didnt see the Ignoring part.

I believe its outright rude to ignore someone's post, i.e if its especially directed to us.
So everyone who'd ignoring my PM's reply fast.

(You know who am talking about :<)

**Vishakh** · 08-29-2011, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Mine is 18.

my worst was 35

so i assume i am the decent rider here

**ashwinprakas** · 08-29-2011, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

my worst was 35

so i assume i am the decent rider here

Naaa......

. It means you'r the least curious and always stick with the books kinda guy.

Hehe... Just kidding.

**aarunn** · 08-29-2011, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Replies in BOLD.

Sorry didnt see the Ignoring part.

I believe its outright rude to ignore someone's post, i.e if its especially directed to us.
So everyone who'd ignoring my PM's reply fast.

(You know who am talking about :<)

Oh common guys...didnt check thread scince yesterday...

I attached the pic inorder to show that Karizma Spares comes with Stickers...
That pic was clicked in my mobile...i think that made u to feel that they are local ones

more over i failed to attach a copy of Bill from Hero Honda....
and it came in Hero honda s packing ...with logo and all...

My Bad

Peace.....

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