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  • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
    The battery gets charged when the charging voltage is more than the battery voltage . At peak the voltage could be nearly 14 V without any load . With engine turned off the battery charge could be @ 12.2 to 12.6 V .
    In ZMA R the alternator doesn't stop - unlike in 4 wheelers where voltage drop is sensed and alternator turns on . Here power is always supplied through RR but the battery is charged only when voltage in the battery drops due to usage .
    So thats what the RR does. Thanks.

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    • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
      The battery gets charged when the charging voltage is more than the battery voltage . At peak the voltage could be nearly 14 V without any load . With engine turned off the battery charge could be @ 12.2 to 12.6 V .
      In ZMA R the alternator doesn't stop - unlike in 4 wheelers where voltage drop is sensed and alternator turns on . Here power is always supplied through RR but the battery is charged only when voltage in the battery drops due to usage .
      Flooded Lead Acid exide OEM battery (open circuit voltages) :
      Fully discharged (flat) ~ 11.5-11.7 volts , Fully charged (and stabilised for an hour by removing from charging) ~ 12.6-12.8 volts
      Charging voltage on my bike's battery terminals when running half throttle with a brand-new RR unit with battery already connected ~ 14.65 volts .
      I trickle-charge such batteries at 13.3 volts at around 30C for days sometimes . No problem .
      These are at room temperatures around 28C here , shall vary with temp .
      SMF ( AGM-VLRA ) voltages may be different .
      Also I do not believe that the bike RR unit would continue to provide full charging voltages to a fully charged battery . Nor sure either ... why else would they use an RR(regulator rectifier) then ?
      BTW , what is the price of this reflector everyone is burning away ?
      Last edited by Pinaki; 09-29-2011, 01:11 AM.

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      • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
        My answers in bold.
        so where can i find HID kit including the projector(the branded one) ... i stay in kanjurmarg ... powai area ... if you have any idea please do let me know ...
        if it comes under my budget then ll go for it in this month only otherwise next month for sure !


        and regarding the helmet ... i ll try an negotiate ... thanks for the quick reply ...
        Solo Rider

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        • I have searched a lot and did not get any branded HID with projectors, all are cheap chinese made and no guarantee on the performance .
          Have a look at these...
          motorcycle hid projector KT-MT3
          and about LS2 helmet .. he told me that LS2 diamond with speed graphics ... white color ... it will cost me Rs 2800 !!!
          I guess it is correct, you can probably bargain a bit and buy it for 2500 bucks.
          are these quotes correct .. can i go for it ???
          same here ... even he also told me about the Kt-MT3 ... i think have to search in town for stores ... ( south mumbai ) ... have to google ...

          coz i love the setup !!!
          Solo Rider

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          • Originally posted by ankss View Post
            so where can i find HID kit including the projector(the branded one) ... i stay in kanjurmarg ... powai area ... if you have any idea please do let me know ...
            if it comes under my budget then ll go for it in this month only otherwise next month for sure !


            and regarding the helmet ... i ll try an negotiate ... thanks for the quick reply ...
            Alas! my friend, AFAIK there are no branded HID kits which come with projectors. Here is what you can do is, pick up a branded HID kit which would cost approx Rs.7K a pair (Philips 4300k). Go to Kurla bazar & pick up Skoda projector for approx Rs.400-500/- per piece.

            You can try your luck at the car accessory shops in Opera House,South Mumbai for the HID's with projectors.

            BTW you said you stay at Kanjurmarg. I work at SEEPZ so I can come down & we can meet. Do PM your details.
            Last edited by imjoshee; 09-29-2011, 11:37 AM. Reason: Added text

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            • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
              Alas! my friend, AFAIK there are no branded HID kits which come with projectors. Here is what you can do is, pick up a branded HID kit which would cost approx Rs.7K a pair (Philips 4300k). Go to Kurla bazar & pick up Skoda projector for approx Rs.400-500/- per piece.

              You can try your luck at the car accessory shops in Opera House,South Mumbai for the HID's with projectors.

              BTW you said you stay at Kanjurmarg. I work at SEEPZ so I can come down & we can meet. Do PM your details.

              well i think i have to put this for next month

              yeah sure .. i ll !!!
              Solo Rider

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              • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                Go to Kurla bazar & pick up Skoda projector for approx Rs.400-500/- per piece.

                BTW you said you stay at Kanjurmarg. I work at SEEPZ so I can come down & we can meet. Do PM your details.
                Ditto! Am using skoda projectors picked up from kurla . Using them in my car. Its brilliant. I don't think aftermarket projectors will come anywhere close to it in performance. Though it doesn't look anywhere as sexy as those after market stuffs.

                Originally posted by ankss View Post
                well i think i have to put this for next month

                yeah sure .. i ll !!!
                If you are in kanjurmarg, why not pick them up from thane. take the eastern express highway and you'll reach the shop in no time.

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                • When we replace the cylinder kit, does the valves get replaced along with them.
                  Motorcycling Experience:
                  2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                  2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                  2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                  2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                  2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                  2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                  The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                  Adios Comrades!
                  A.P. 2018

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                  • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    When we replace the cylinder kit, does the valves get replaced along with them.
                    NO,Only if valve stem is bent or valves are damaged
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • Originally posted by psr View Post
                      NO,Only if valve stem is bent or valves are damaged
                      What are the symptoms of valve damage, bent valve stem???
                      Motorcycling Experience:
                      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                      Adios Comrades!
                      A.P. 2018

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                      • Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post
                        Ditto! Am using skoda projectors picked up from kurla . Using them in my car. Its brilliant. I don't think aftermarket projectors will come anywhere close to it in performance. Though it doesn't look anywhere as sexy as those after market stuffs.


                        If you are in kanjurmarg, why not pick them up from thane. take the eastern express highway and you'll reach the shop in no time.
                        i no that ... i have been to sun shine shop , the helmet shop ... in thane ( dont know the area name ... but there are 3 petrol pumps )

                        tht guy told me tht it ll cost u around 3 K without installation ... and i just asked him for quotation.

                        well am going to tht shop only for my helmet !
                        Solo Rider

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                        • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                          What are the symptoms of valve damage, bent valve stem???
                          Difficulty in starting ,poor FE,very poor acceleration and poor performance.
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                          • Originally posted by psr View Post
                            Difficulty in starting ,poor FE,very poor acceleration and poor performance.
                            Difficulty is starting... Hmmmm... I hold the choke for 10 secs for the bike to start.

                            Poor acceleration...Hmmm... Takes some time after 80 to reach 100.

                            Poor performance... Hmmm... Bike now tops at 110~115 max.


                            So does that qualify for valve probs???
                            Motorcycling Experience:
                            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                            Adios Comrades!
                            A.P. 2018

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                            • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                              Difficulty is starting... Hmmmm... I hold the choke for 10 secs for the bike to start.

                              Poor acceleration...Hmmm... Takes some time after 80 to reach 100.

                              Poor performance... Hmmm... Bike now tops at 110~115 max.


                              So does that qualify for valve probs???
                              May be ...but can't say without checking for leaks or bend.
                              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                                May be ...but can't say without checking for leaks or bend.
                                Leaks...Hmmmm... I've got a minor oil leak from the top of the head.

                                Bends... How to check for em???


                                And thanks alot sir, for the speedy replies...
                                Motorcycling Experience:
                                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                                Adios Comrades!
                                A.P. 2018

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