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  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

    @Ravi @17bhp...We hereby crown you as the official tooner for electrical problems in ZMA thread . Don't be humble, I do know how much you learned, and how much trouble shooting you did, and how good you are...
    Many members here and in ZMR thread are Good at learning and moving forward, and it makes me HAPPY.
    Last edited by psr; 12-29-2013, 10:36 PM.
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
      Sir, I know a little only, and whatever I gained was all from you, and the experiences from others posted here.
      Lol, I hope you would be able to solve it without sending the bike to me.
      Nice to read that and I concur. We know very little, and we keep learning as time goes by.

      Originally posted by psr View Post
      @Ravi @17bhp...We hereby crown you as the official tooner for electrical problems in ZMA thread . Don't be humble, I do know how much you learned, and how much trouble shooting you did, and how good you are...
      Many members her and in ZMR thread are Good at learning and moving forward, and it makes me HAPPY.
      Not a tooner definitely! . Only one person is a true Tooner!

      But, to reiterate, hands on, guidance and learning, more importantly, the willingness to learn and that curiosity to solve things makes us good students all our lives. What little we can do is share our knowledge (as also stated by [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION]) which is good for us, and if someone is helped along the way, even better.

      Only one thing irks a person, that is a lack of willingness to search for solutions for problems even when they have been discussed earlier. Spoonfeeding is hardly the right approach, but that is just me.

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        @ AK3D...You have stated what was in my mind...still Ravi went through a lot of loose contact and other issues ,which forced him to learn and become better.He has a lot of Patience and perseverance ...and you are another person learning well and moving on...there is Mr.Divya, Rrneav, and the list goes on of the people over the last year had learned, and had come forward to help others...which is what i mentioned ,when I said I am Happy....
        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

          Originally posted by AK3D View Post
          Not a tooner definitely! . Only one person is a true Tooner!

          But, to reiterate, hands on, guidance and learning, more importantly, the willingness to learn and that curiosity to solve things makes us good students all our lives. What little we can do is share our knowledge (as also stated by @psr) which is good for us, and if someone is helped along the way, even better.
          +1. Agree fully!

          Originally posted by AK3D View Post
          Only one thing irks a person, that is a lack of willingness to search for solutions for problems even when they have been discussed earlier. Spoonfeeding is hardly the right approach, but that is just me.
          Sometimes, not everyone likes to take the risk of a DIY for various reasons, and the time factor too. Searching might not give a comprehensive idea all the time, and moreover, its time consuming. With so many knowledgeable people around here, I think there is not any harm in explaining a noob, like I was once upon a time.
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          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

            Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
            +1. Agree fully!
            Sometimes, not everyone likes to take the risk of a DIY for various reasons, and the time factor too. Searching might not give a comprehensive idea all the time, and moreover, its time consuming. With so many knowledgeable people around here, I think there is not any harm in explaining a noob, like I was once upon a time.
            Ravi, DIY is different, a DIY would be like the time I made an aluminium heatsink for the RR and fitted it (again from information posted here). Or modification of the slide etc etc. Even changing the headlamp from default 35 to 55W for more brightness is a type of DIY.

            What I meant by getting hands dirty is the exact thing Mr PSR stated. You have to open up the bike - (you did that), you have to "TRY" (note try) and identify the problem, which you did. A vague description neither helps the person who needs help nor the person trying to help.
            I am sure you bothered to read the thread from at least the middle onwards (as have so many other people). That in itself gives a newcomer confidence to search and identify a particular issue.

            I totally agree that there is no harm in helping a newcomer, it benefits us, and passing on knowledge is a very good thing. However, as seen in so many cases all over this forum and the internet/real life, some people expect to say "XYZ problem", sit back and relax whilst others rack their brains in trying to solve the issue. In the meantime the person is not interested at all in gaining that knowledge for himself/herself. (I'm not pointing at Mr Ramprasad here, but speaking in general).
            Saying that, I also understand that not everyone has the enthusiasm or inclination to explore or be receptive to advise . It's up to us to help whenever possible, and I am sure we will continue to do that.

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              [MENTION=52772]AK3D[/MENTION], I fully agree with you. In Ramprasad's case, actually I have asked him to post here and get any details about any mechanic who knows and can test bike's electricals in Bangalore. Because I am aware that he doesn't have much knowledge to check for himself, I advised him to get hold of a mechanic who can check electricals in Bangalore. With this perspective of getting the details of good mechanic, I guess he didn't post much details.
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              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                [MENTION=47434]ramprasadkamineni[/MENTION] - bro, plz visit the mech I mentioned earlier.

                Mech name - Krishna
                Address - Royal Motors, behind Reebok Showroom, New BEL Road (Landmark - beside Reva P.U. College)

                I can't guarantee that he'll solve the issue in one go, but he has some patience to listen and doesn't often try to fleece customers.
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
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                • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                  Taking my bike to an ASC today in whitefield
                  And i'll sit with him till it will get rectified

                  Thank you all for your valuable inputs and suggetions

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                  Last edited by ramprasadkamineni; 12-30-2013, 12:45 PM.
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                  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    Originally posted by shirish View Post
                    i have read earlier in this thread that many ZMA riders are suing Osram NB or Phillips XV with a relay. Would there be any side effects if one of these is used without a relay.
                    P.S My ZMA has an exide 7ah battery
                    Recently, I have put two relays for the Osram NBP 55/60w bulb (one for high beam and one for low beam). Yesterday, I was riding with another ZMR and the intensity of my headlight is completely masking the ZMRs. The illumination and intensity is more than double of the stock ZMR. The low beam was really awesome.

                    But, yesterday I noticed little melting of the reflector and I don't know if it happened after I put the relays or before. I have been using this Osram bulb for the past 6 years without relay and with absolutely no issues. Just now I removed the relay setup. I will check in the evening how is the light output without the relays.
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                    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                      Recently, I have put two relays for the Osram NBP 55/60w bulb (one for high beam and one for low beam). Yesterday, I was riding with another ZMR and the intensity of my headlight is completely masking the ZMRs. The illumination and intensity is more than double of the stock ZMR. The low beam was really awesome.

                      But, yesterday I noticed little melting of the reflector and I don't know if it happened after I put the relays or before. I have been using this Osram bulb for the past 6 years without relay and with absolutely no issues. Just now I removed the relay setup. I will check in the evening how is the light output without the relays.
                      The ZMR doesn't have such a great Illumination. I have the Osram Night Breakers too. the throw is wide but not too bright. can you tell me the relay setup. if possible PM me with the details and wiring. It would be of great help during my ride as I usually hold the tail position

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                      Reneav
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                      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                        The ZMR doesn't have such a great Illumination. I have the Osram Night Breakers too. the throw is wide but not too bright. can you tell me the relay setup. if possible PM me with the details and wiring. It would be of great help during my ride as I usually hold the tail position

                        Cheers,
                        Reneav
                        Let me test it first. With relay setup (the headlight is directly drawing up the power from battery skipping the stock wiring), the bulb is glowing at full capacity and I feel its producing considerable heat. I just noticed melting in the reflector (small portion above the headlight) and I don't know if it happened over the years or it developed because of the excessive heat now being released after the relay setup. I removed the relay setup now, just to check how much difference in light output with relay. After a week, I am gonna put back the relays and use continuously for considerable time and see if the reflector is developing any further melting. Also, after the relay setup, I haven't ridden more than 1.5 hour with headlight on. So, full testing yet to be done.
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                        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                          Let me test it first. With relay setup (the headlight is directly drawing up the power from battery skipping the stock wiring), the bulb is glowing at full capacity and I feel its producing considerable heat. I just noticed melting in the reflector (small portion above the headlight) and I don't know if it happened over the years or it developed because of the excessive heat now being released after the relay setup. I removed the relay setup now, just to check how much difference in light output with relay. After a week, I am gonna put back the relays and use continuously for considerable time and see if the reflector is developing any further melting. Also, after the relay setup, I haven't ridden more than 1.5 hour with headlight on. So, full testing yet to be done.
                          Let me know your observation it will be a difficult task on the zmr to change the headlights often

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                          Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                          P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                          Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                          ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                          RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                          Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                          RayZ - 2015 til now
                          Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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                          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            @AK3D, I fully agree with you. In Ramprasad's case, actually I have asked him to post here and get any details about any mechanic who knows and can test bike's electricals in Bangalore. Because I am aware that he doesn't have much knowledge to check for himself, I advised him to get hold of a mechanic who can check electricals in Bangalore. With this perspective of getting the details of good mechanic, I guess he didn't post much details.
                            Yes Ravi, that's why I said earlier that I wasn't pointing towards Mr Ramprasad. I wish him luck in sorting out his issue, and hopefully he will contribute like the rest of us and become familiar with the workings of his motorcycle.

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                            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                              Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              Yes, battery would have been drained. Didn't the bike start with kick?
                              Kicker was dead and there wasnt any spark, the ignition was faulty(The stock battery was fine, which was a surprise). Anyways fired the bike up and finally got the new carb to idle, but then after a while noticed oil leaks. So bikes back in the garage for now. Next time around will source some tools and gasket kit along with seals, till then its Disco time.
                              And I've also brought up my stock carb, will clean and keep it, and as for the insulator, Blackpanther had sourced it for me a while back, I see theres an O ring, is it the same one we use in the tappet windows? Cause its the same size. And should I apply anabond or something while fixing it?
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                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
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                              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                                Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                Kicker was dead and there wasnt any spark, the ignition was faulty(The stock battery was fine, which was a surprise). Anyways fired the bike up and finally got the new carb to idle, but then after a while noticed oil leaks. So bikes back in the garage for now. Next time around will source some tools and gasket kit along with seals, till then its Disco time.
                                And I've also brought up my stock carb, will clean and keep it, and as for the insulator, Blackpanther had sourced it for me a while back, I see theres an O ring, is it the same one we use in the tappet windows? Cause its the same size. And should I apply anabond or something while fixing it?
                                If the ignition was faulty and there is no spark, how you were able to start the bike? And you bought a new carb? Whats wrong with stock one?

                                I thought both the tappet O ring and the insulator O ring to be same, but two days back I opened the carb insulator and tried to put the new O ring meant for the tappet cover but it was small and didn't fit. I just used the old one (it was good) with Threebond spread on the top of O ring.


                                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                                Let me know your observation it will be a difficult task on the zmr to change the headlights often

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                                Sure! Yeah, I understand how cumbersome it is to open those fairings. All these while, I was taking my bike to mechanic to open the fairing to change headlight or pilots. The last 2-3 times I did the DIY and was successful. Removing and fitting of the front fairing of Karizma is so easy for me now.
                                Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 12-30-2013, 08:49 PM.
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