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  • Re: Help needed on Karizma R maitainance/repairing/spare parts

    Originally posted by g K View Post
    No response ?!
    I think you missed asking what you should be setting right.

    However with 25k thousand kms on odo, few things to check :

    1. Tyres, if possible replace rear to pirelli sport demon
    2. Brake pads
    3. Engine oil change, Filterchange, clutch cable change and acceletor cable
    4. Clean chain sprockets, perhaps you would need a replacement at 30000 kms or less. You are very close to it.

    These are purely related to make a good running out of it, cosmetics will be addtional..

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    Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
    I think you missed asking what you should be setting right.

    However with 25k thousand kms on odo, few things to check :

    1. Tyres, if possible replace rear to pirelli sport demon
    2. Brake pads
    3. Engine oil change, Filterchange, clutch cable change and acceletor cable
    4. Clean chain sprockets, perhaps you would need a replacement at 30000 kms or less. You are very close to it.

    These are purely related to make a good running out of it, cosmetics will be addtional..
    you are better of going to a nearby Hero center, just tell them what you want to do... may be swingarm bushes need a check too

    the only thing which they might not do so well is cleaning chain and sprockets, you can get it done from any other place.
    M3:15

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    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

      Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
      15A fuse blown.
      Most of the time, fuse that supports Stop, Turn and Speedo... gets blown
      Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
      When any fuse blows it's not because the fuse is faulty . Check the bike's electricals .
      Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
      I know. But thought someone might have faced the problem, so he might help or give a tip for the problem. I wanted to do it myself in less time with the help of lot of experience of the guys here. Anyways, I gave my bike to ASC. Thank you for your reply.

      Thank you all.
      The tail light ,turn light and speedo connectors disconnected and checked as they are connected one by one should have given you a clue . Anyway I hope the ASC will sort it out .
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      • Re: Help needed on Karizma R maitainance/repairing/spare parts

        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
        Hi g K,

        well.. sorry for my ignorance, i haven't come to this thread in a couple of weeks..

        well.. Dwarka is quite far and I am not sure about any workshops there but I sure do know some in South Delhi.. Pashupati motos SVC is a place i would recommend as I have screwed the Works Manager there when I had issues with my ZMR when I purchased it in 2010.. after my complaints he started taking good care of the customers there..

        Other than that I know only in Noida as I am closer to Noida now..

        maybe the others here who are from Delhi can assist... If I come across any.. I will let you know..

        Cheers,
        Reneav
        No Problemo rreneav1987
        Well, both south delhi and noida are distant from Dwarka. Please let me know if you hear anything good about a SVC/mechanic/spare part shop in West Delhi.
        Thanks.

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        Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
        I think you missed asking what you should be setting right.

        However with 25k thousand kms on odo, few things to check :

        1. Tyres, if possible replace rear to pirelli sport demon
        2. Brake pads
        3. Engine oil change, Filterchange, clutch cable change and acceletor cable
        4. Clean chain sprockets, perhaps you would need a replacement at 30000 kms or less. You are very close to it.

        These are purely related to make a good running out of it, cosmetics will be addtional..

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        you are better of going to a nearby Hero center, just tell them what you want to do... may be swingarm bushes need a check too

        the only thing which they might not do so well is cleaning chain and sprockets, you can get it done from any other place.
        Thanks for your response worrisomebear.

        Thats exactly what I do not know - what things do I need to get checked and would probably need replacement ie the fluids and stuff.
        Cosmetic things can be taken care of later.
        I have noted the things you already mentioned. Any thing else ?

        My main concern is a trustworthy mechanic/SVC nearby my location who would inspect the bike HONESTLY and let me know of the things that need replacement and also shop to get spares. Because the people in business will sense in a jiffy that I am not an experienced person wrt automobiles so might try to make some quick bucks. Any recommendations on this ?
        You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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        • Re: Help needed on Karizma R maitainance/repairing/spare parts

          The reason i am asking you to go to SVC is because you can get the parts.Its better you tell them you want the things sorted which i told you.

          Many will told you not needed, but insist and get it done.

          Few other things:

          1. Rear brake liner is to be changed every 10000 ams. check status. Splendor rear liner works too

          2.Air filter and spark plug

          3. check also condition of the sprockets and chain. If more than cleaning is needed then it needs replacement.

          4. If front forks are working fine, do not change front fork oil

          5. keep the front tyre same , no need to change

          6. change front brake fluid if needed


          Originally posted by g K View Post
          No Problemo rreneav1987
          Well, both south delhi and noida are distant from Dwarka. Please let me know if you hear anything good about a SVC/mechanic/spare part shop in West Delhi.
          Thanks.

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          Thanks for your response worrisomebear.

          Thats exactly what I do not know - what things do I need to get checked and would probably need replacement ie the fluids and stuff.
          Cosmetic things can be taken care of later.
          I have noted the things you already mentioned. Any thing else ?

          My main concern is a trustworthy mechanic/SVC nearby my location who would inspect the bike HONESTLY and let me know of the things that need replacement and also shop to get spares. Because the people in business will sense in a jiffy that I am not an experienced person wrt automobiles so might try to make some quick bucks. Any recommendations on this ?
          M3:15

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          • Re: Help needed on Karizma R maitainance/repairing/spare parts

            Okay, got it. Please clarify me on the below, sorry for bugging with naive questions

            1. Rear brake liner is same as brake pads ?
            3. How do I judge if cleaning is required or replacement ?
            4. How do I check whether front forks are working fine ?
            6. Same as above, how to check if change needed or not ?

            Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
            The reason i am asking you to go to SVC is because you can get the parts.Its better you tell them you want the things sorted which i told you.

            Many will told you not needed, but insist and get it done.

            Few other things:

            1. Rear brake liner is to be changed every 10000 ams. check status. Splendor rear liner works too

            2.Air filter and spark plug

            3. check also condition of the sprockets and chain. If more than cleaning is needed then it needs replacement.

            4. If front forks are working fine, do not change front fork oil

            5. keep the front tyre same , no need to change

            6. change front brake fluid if needed
            You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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            • Re: Help needed on Karizma R maitainance/repairing/spare parts

              Originally posted by g K View Post
              Okay, got it. Please clarify me on the below, sorry for bugging with naive questions

              1. Rear brake liner is same as brake pads ?
              3. How do I judge if cleaning is required or replacement ?
              4. How do I check whether front forks are working fine ?
              6. Same as above, how to check if change needed or not ?
              1. Rear break liner means rear brake shoe, brake pads means front brake pads
              2. ideally it is dependant with number of kms done, but first try with cleaning.. open the front sprocket and chain cover. use diesel and wd40 to clean. this you can get done from local mechanic and take diesel and wd40 along with u
              3. the front forks should be fine at 25k kms, leave it as they are
              M3:15

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              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                ASC guys just replaced both the brake switches of front and rear brake. I lost electrical again before reaching home. I went to ASC again today and they said it will take 3 - 4 days just to "identify" the problem. I know ASC guys have lots of bike to service and provide it to its owner, same day. But 3- 4 days are too much for me to leave my bike in a place where it already took lots of injury. So, I took my bike and came home.

                Ab lagta hai yeh zimmedaari, muje apne kandhon pe leni padegi.

                Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                The tail light ,turn light and speedo connectors disconnected and checked as they are connected one by one should have given you a clue . Anyway I hope the ASC will sort it out .
                Thank you Sirji for your positive hope.

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                • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                  Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                  ASC guys just replaced both the brake switches of front and rear brake. I lost electrical again before reaching home. I went to ASC again today and they said it will take 3 - 4 days just to "identify" the problem. I know ASC guys have lots of bike to service and provide it to its owner, same day. But 3- 4 days are too much for me to leave my bike in a place where it already took lots of injury. So, I took my bike and came home.

                  Ab lagta hai yeh zimmedaari, muje apne kandhon pe leni padegi.
                  Thank you Sirji for your positive hope.
                  PM me if you're in Ahmedabad, I'll have my mechanic friend take a look. There is a possibility of the RR going kaput.

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                  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    Originally posted by g K View Post
                    Okay, got it. Please clarify me on the below, sorry for bugging with naive questions

                    1. Rear brake liner is same as brake pads ?
                    3. How do I judge if cleaning is required or replacement ?
                    4. How do I check whether front forks are working fine ?
                    6. Same as above, how to check if change needed or not ?
                    1.Already clarified.
                    2.Distinctive sound from the chain indicates that the chain be cleaned and lubed.
                    3.Not sure about others, but I follow fork oil change every 12-15K kms when the Fork Springs are new and every 10-12K Kms as they start aging. So far has given me good results. It also depends on how smooth and rough terrain you take. The travel of the fork will be reduced if the fork oil has lost its effectiveness or the Spring tension is reduced. Personally feel 25K kms is a long duration for change of fork oil, however smooth roads you ride on. It will just burden the fork springs more.

                    Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                    ASC guys just replaced both the brake switches of front and rear brake. I lost electrical again before reaching home. I went to ASC again today and they said it will take 3 - 4 days just to "identify" the problem. I know ASC guys have lots of bike to service and provide it to its owner, same day. But 3- 4 days are too much for me to leave my bike in a place where it already took lots of injury. So, I took my bike and came home.

                    Ab lagta hai yeh zimmedaari, muje apne kandhon pe leni padegi.

                    Thank you Sirji for your positive hope.
                    Check the electrical first before replacing anything. Worn out wires/Mice eaten wires are the usual culprits. Crude method of testing for the RR unit is, remove the battery and run the bike, if RR unit is the culprit, it over heats beyond normal or Doesn't start. Simply changing the work out fuses dont work.

                    P.S: if you have had any additional horns of any after market electrical plonked, check for the quality of wires or joints. Are the Fuses getting blown out when you use Indicators/Headlight/horn ? or just randomly ?
                    RR units costs around 1800 n complete wiring kit costs around 1900-2000 bucks.
                    Stories of the open road...........

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                    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      Originally posted by AK3D View Post
                      PM me if you're in Ahmedabad, I'll have my mechanic friend take a look. There is a possibility of the RR going kaput.
                      Will do that. Thanks mate.

                      Originally posted by phanikar View Post
                      1.Already clarified.
                      2.Distinctive sound from the chain indicates that the chain be cleaned and lubed.
                      3.Not sure about others, but I follow fork oil change every 12-15K kms when the Fork Springs are new and every 10-12K Kms as they start aging. So far has given me good results. It also depends on how smooth and rough terrain you take. The travel of the fork will be reduced if the fork oil has lost its effectiveness or the Spring tension is reduced. Personally feel 25K kms is a long duration for change of fork oil, however smooth roads you ride on. It will just burden the fork springs more.


                      Check the electrical first before replacing anything. Worn out wires/Mice eaten wires are the usual culprits. Crude method of testing for the RR unit is, remove the battery and run the bike, if RR unit is the culprit, it over heats beyond normal or Doesn't start. Simply changing the work out fuses dont work.

                      P.S: if you have had any additional horns of any after market electrical plonked, check for the quality of wires or joints. Are the Fuses getting blown out when you use Indicators/Headlight/horn ? or just randomly ?
                      RR units costs around 1800 n complete wiring kit costs around 1900-2000 bucks.
                      I have just two modifications, 1. Roots Dual horns and 2. 55/60W halogen bulb.
                      Checked the battery connections, looks good. Need to check the Wires of the horns.

                      The Fuse get blown randomly after sometime installing the fuse. Initially, after installing the fuse all electrical works good for sometime, say 15 - 20 mins. Then mostly by applying front brakes, the fuse get blown. Other times by starting the presence lights will blow the fuse. Never by turn lights, till now.

                      By the way whats RR?

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                      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                        ..I have just two modifications, 1. Roots Dual horns and 2. 55/60W halogen bulb ...
                        There you go . Disconnect the horns first and check if problem goes away . If it does , then you may need to reduce to a single horn & use a relay between the horn and battery . Any auto electrician shall be able to help you with this .

                        Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                        .. By the way whats RR? ..
                        Regulator+Rectifier . It converts the AC current from the bike's alternator to DC and regulates the voltage and current that is distributed to the wiring . It's mounted somewhere under the seat or tank , size of about a matchbox and has cooling fins on it .
                        Last edited by Pinaki; 09-08-2013, 01:35 PM.

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                        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
                          Will do that. Thanks mate.

                          By the way whats RR?
                          20-30 pages ago, I posted a DIY, taken from a DIY that I saw here earlier, posted by Mr PSR about replacing the RR Unit. My fuse kept conking out as well, and it turned out the RR was the culprit. You might want to do that if it's overheating.
                          [MENTION=29030]Pinaki[/MENTION] already gave the RR explanation .

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                          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
                            1. Rear break liner means rear brake shoe, brake pads means front brake pads
                            2. ideally it is dependant with number of kms done, but first try with cleaning.. open the front sprocket and chain cover. use diesel and wd40 to clean. this you can get done from local mechanic and take diesel and wd40 along with u
                            3. the front forks should be fine at 25k kms, leave it as they are
                            Originally posted by phanikar View Post
                            1.Already clarified.
                            2.Distinctive sound from the chain indicates that the chain be cleaned and lubed.
                            3.Not sure about others, but I follow fork oil change every 12-15K kms when the Fork Springs are new and every 10-12K Kms as they start aging. So far has given me good results. It also depends on how smooth and rough terrain you take. The travel of the fork will be reduced if the fork oil has lost its effectiveness or the Spring tension is reduced. Personally feel 25K kms is a long duration for change of fork oil, however smooth roads you ride on. It will just burden the fork springs more.
                            Thanks a lot worrisomebear and phanikar for the clarifications.

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                            Yesterday after riding for 25-30kms when I reached home and parked, I could feel a lot of heat from the area between tank and the console. I could also smell something, not exactly burning but something somewhat similar.
                            Is this normal ?
                            You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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                            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                              There you go . Disconnect the horns first and check if problem goes away . If it does , then you may need to reduce to a single horn & use a relay between the horn and battery . Any auto electrician shall be able to help you with this .

                              Regulator+Rectifier . It converts the AC current from the bike's alternator to DC and regulates the voltage and current that is distributed to the wiring . It's mounted somewhere under the seat or tank , size of about a matchbox and has cooling fins on it .
                              My bike is already having relay between the battery and horns. I will do a check the horns and its connection and see if the problem goes away. Will do as you said. Thank you sir.

                              Originally posted by AK3D View Post
                              20-30 pages ago, I posted a DIY, taken from a DIY that I saw here earlier, posted by Mr PSR about replacing the RR Unit. My fuse kept conking out as well, and it turned out the RR was the culprit. You might want to do that if it's overheating.
                              Will give it a try this after understanding the DIY, if dual horns is not the culprit. Thanks once again.
                              Last edited by Vijay1911; 09-08-2013, 03:28 PM.

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                              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                                Originally posted by g K View Post
                                Yesterday after riding for 25-30kms when I reached home and parked, I could feel a lot of heat from the area between tank and the console. I could also smell something, not exactly burning but something somewhat similar.
                                Is this normal ?
                                You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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