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**rcazador** · 08-25-2013, 07:30 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Really bad day. After a week of not driving I took the ZMA out only to have it bread break down. After proper idling and warming up I found that it idles perfectly but even the slightest throttle causes it stall. No amount of meddling with the idling could solve the problem. Almost instant start and stable idle but stall on throttle. Choke all didn't help. Guys please help out this is plain depressing.

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**AK3D** · 08-25-2013, 08:26 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by vijayvenkatesans View Post

The ASC doesn't have it. Contacted the sole parts distributor in Chennai and they didn't pick up the phone.

If someone from close by can help you, that'd be great. If not, please let me know and I'll source an AFR for you and send it across.

**ashwinprakas** · 08-25-2013, 10:28 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rcazador View Post

Really bad day. After a week of not driving I took the ZMA out only to have it bread break down. After proper idling and warming up I found that it idles perfectly but even the slightest throttle causes it stall. No amount of meddling with the idling could solve the problem. Almost instant start and stable idle but stall on throttle. Choke all didn't help. Guys please help out this is plain depressing.

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Same pinch, I logged in just to post that.

When the bike is hot she idles but when throttle is given dies. The only remedy is to keep the slide up with engine braking when the missing pops up, and if by chance you're forced to stop, say at a junction then you need to either keep the throttle open cause if it dies, then you need to take a break to let the bike cool down. I was planning on riding to Blore tomorrow, but cancelled due to this and booked bus tickets. If your choke works then you can use it, but unfortunately my choke is dead stuck, cause bike had been idle for a really long time.

**mutatedknutz** · 08-25-2013, 10:33 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

can any one tell me where can i find karizmas 13t front sprocket in mumbai?
only the front sprocket, i dont want the whole set
thankyou

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can any one tell me where can i find karizmas 13t front sprocket in mumbai?
only the front sprocket, i dont want the whole set
thankyou

**pixantz** · 08-26-2013, 01:13 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by mutatedknutz View Post

can any one tell me where can i find karizmas 13t front sprocket in mumbai?
only the front sprocket, i dont want the whole set
thankyou

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can any one tell me where can i find karizmas 13t front sprocket in mumbai?
only the front sprocket, i dont want the whole set
thankyou

Try Bhagwati Scooter House at chincholi bunder road, opp advent atria bldg. malad.

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**shirish** · 08-26-2013, 04:42 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Hi guys. I have a noobish question. How many pipes do we see hanging at the bottom near the stand. Is it 1 or is it 3. If anyone has pics of the bottom half handy, can you please share

**Divya Sharan** · 08-26-2013, 05:20 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by shirish View Post

Hi guys. I have a noobish question. How many pipes do we see hanging at the bottom near the stand. Is it 1 or is it 3. If anyone has pics of the bottom half handy, can you please share

3, if none are bent mid way!

**pixantz** · 08-26-2013, 07:40 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by shirish View Post

Hi guys. I have a noobish question. How many pipes do we see hanging at the bottom near the stand. Is it 1 or is it 3. If anyone has pics of the bottom half handy, can you please share

I think there should be four. Two thick and two thin
1) Crank-case breather(thick with a cap)
2) Tank-lid water drain pipe( thick and slit at a slant at the tip
3) battery breather pipe(thin and black)
4) Carb overflow pipe(thin, black)

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**psr** · 08-26-2013, 08:18 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Pixantz, you are correct.

In Karizma -R the following 4 tubes will be seen under the bike.....

1. A thick tube with a stopper for Air Filter box oil .....this is the oil from the crank case breather inside the Air box
2. A thick tube with open end for drain of liquid from near Petrol tank Lid,
3. A thinner tube for Battery fluid & gas venting
4. A thinner tube for Carburetor float bowl drain..

**acs1207** · 08-26-2013, 08:24 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post

Get rid off that K&N filter first before you start complaining about engine problems in a few days! K&N's have big pores. After few days it will get clogged and the engine will struggle without sufficient air I have literally seen clogged filters from friends' bikes!

Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post

Yes bro.. I just spoke to my mech to keep aside my airbox n filter as I am going back to stock very soon

I dont wanna rape my girl.. I want her for lifetime

If any of you guys want a better than stock you have to do a DIY . Get a ZEN mpfi air filter and adapt your air box so that it fits snugly . I'd done a DIY and a step by step photo guide is there somewhere . I guess psr sir is still using it . It gives peppier performance and a bit more sound than stock . Remember , the air filter is meant for a 1000cc mpfi car and so it does give more air than stock and it should clean the air more than or as much as stock .

Originally posted by AK3D View Post

Try and source it yourself? Go to the ASC or any Hero genuine parts shop and ask for the ZMA AFR screw set. All you need do then is screw it in (after making sure the old washer and o ring are not in the hole).

After putting in the afr screw , get a rubber piece the same size and jam it in so that the afr screw doesn't fall off again . I got a small round rubber piece from inside a Rs.5/- ballpoint pen's cap and put it there . I'd also posted a pic of that .

**Ramborider** · 08-26-2013, 09:51 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Today i had opened chain for cleaning but while assembling i obseved that output shaft and sprocket splines have excessive play and front sprocket is worn out.there was very light wear pattern on output shaft splines.as im more concern about if there is need to replace shaft i have to opened engine totally.

how to upload mp4 file format?or i have to convert it in other format befor uploading?

pic of front sprocket

**vijayvenkatesans** · 08-26-2013, 11:46 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Same pinch, I logged in just to post that.

When the bike is hot she idles but when throttle is given dies. The only remedy is to keep the slide up with engine braking when the missing pops up, and if by chance you're forced to stop, say at a junction then you need to either keep the throttle open cause if it dies, then you need to take a break to let the bike cool down. I was planning on riding to Blore tomorrow, but cancelled due to this and booked bus tickets. If your choke works then you can use it, but unfortunately my choke is dead stuck, cause bike had been idle for a really long time.

Count me in. Same problem. Though this happened to me when the bike was cold. 0.5km at 7pm after staying off since 11am. Took it out after 2 weeks and it stalled after around 15km(The other 14.5 were done the previous day and in the morning). Turned out it had water in the carb and the fuel tank. Gave it to the ASC for cleaning.

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Originally posted by AK3D View Post

If someone from close by can help you, that'd be great. If not, please let me know and I'll source an AFR for you and send it across.

Thanks. Gave it to the ASC and told them a screw seems to be missing. That guy said, it comes in from the other side of the carb o_o. I showed him that there is nothing on the other side. He checked with another Karizma and then accepted that the air screw is missing. (BTW, isn't that a fuel screw?) So, I guess they'll replace it.

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Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

After putting in the afr screw , get a rubber piece the same size and jam it in so that the afr screw doesn't fall off again . I got a small round rubber piece from inside a Rs.5/- ballpoint pen's cap and put it there . I'd also posted a pic of that .

I don't think it fell off. I had showed it to a nearby mech when it stalled and I have a strong feeling that guy didn't put it back in. Will try that anyway. BTW won't it block the air flow? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

**Pinaki** · 08-27-2013, 12:54 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Ramborider View Post

.... output shaft and sprocket splines have excessive play and front sprocket is worn out ..

Lateral play between the drive shaft and front sprocket is normal , to adjust to the uneven movements of the rear sprockets and still remain aligned linear to the chain . Your front sprocket is worn and just begining to hook . Better to change now . Clean & grease both the shaft and sprocket while mounting it . Don't wonder , there is no need to replace that shaft

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**AK3D** · 08-27-2013, 08:33 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by vijayvenkatesans View Post

I don't think it fell off. I had showed it to a nearby mech when it stalled and I have a strong feeling that guy didn't put it back in. Will try that anyway. BTW won't it block the air flow? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

All these questions are answered in this thread earlier

. If you (Or any participants here who are newcomers) own a ZMA, I strongly suggest you start reading from page 1... if not page 1, at least page 400-500, where the action hots up. The amount of information here won't be had for love or money, and certainly not at any other place. I can only say thanks to the members here who have been there and done that and have so kindly and selflessly shared that information.

**shirish** · 08-27-2013, 01:00 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

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Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

3, if none are bent mid way!

Originally posted by pixantz View Post

I think there should be four. Two thick and two thin
1) Crank-case breather(thick with a cap)
2) Tank-lid water drain pipe( thick and slit at a slant at the tip
3) battery breather pipe(thin and black)
4) Carb overflow pipe(thin, black)

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Originally posted by psr View Post

Pixantz, you are correct.

In Karizma -R the following 4 tubes will be seen under the bike.....

1. A thick tube with a stopper for Air Filter box oil .....this is the oil from the crank case breather inside the Air box
2. A thick tube with open end for drain of liquid from near Petrol tank Lid,
3. A thinner tube for Battery fluid & gas venting
4. A thinner tube for Carburetor float bowl drain..

Thanks for the timely reply guys. If anyone has a pic of thebottom half handy, can you please share it

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