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**abhash** · 08-22-2011, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Glad my opinion is useful ...The front tire of 2.75 width is already not good for grip..upgrading to soft compound 3.00 /18 will greatly improve the front end stability under hard braking.
Keeping higher than 25 psi in front tire is not advisable, since it will become bouncy, and road grip will become less..
For handle shaking at specific speeds, check tire wobble or Rim bend.

psr sir at his humble and helpfull best

i guess i should also upsize the rear along with the front then
also will 3.00/18 require any mods and whats the max. size for the rear that i can put w/o any mods with swingarm etc.

**Blumarine005** · 08-22-2011, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

AFAIK Karizma speedo needs battery power for functioning properly,Both rpm,speed and the digital one needs battery power,Other wise every thing will be dead,IS 5Ah causing these problems? Why did you get a 5Ah instead of 7Ah ???

Originally posted by psr View Post

The 5AH battery is not the correct battery for the ZMA, with high charge currents...most probably the 5 AH battery is cooked by now.
The RPM and Speedo are both Electronic Analogue meters, and are dependent on the battery's steady supply...with battery being bad the pulses after 3 phase RR is full of spikes and not pure DC...this is triggering the meters to indicate erratic readings.

I had asked for 9Amh battery to the shopkeeper but as you all know its a little larger than the battery box. I asked him to make the neccesary mods but he insisted that the 5Amh one won't cretae any problems. He said he had a lot of customers using 5Amh in their ZMA and they wer quite satisfied.

There is a catch as well : Currently I have 100/90 bulb in the headlight. I know it would burn off the reflector but I am searching for the phillips premium vision and would replace it as soon as I get it.Though I hardly ride the bike after sunset for the fear of getting the reflectors burnt(max 1hr in a week after sunset). Can this be the reason for the malfunctionong?

**curse** · 08-22-2011, 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=Blumarine005;690080]I had asked for 9Amh battery to the shopkeeper but as you all know its a little larger than the battery box. I asked him to make the neccesary mods but he insisted that the 5Amh one won't cretae any problems. He said he had a lot of customers using 5Amh in their ZMA and they wer quite satisfied.

There is a catch as well : Currently I have 100/90 bulb in the headlight. I know it would burn off the reflector but I am searching for the phillips premium vision and would replace it as soon as I get it.Though I hardly ride the bike after sunset for the fear of getting the reflectors burnt(max 1hr in a week after sunset). Can this be the reason for the malfunctionong?[/QUOT

5Ah battery with 100/90 lamp

As PSR said your battery must be almost dead by now.Change to lower rating bulb and change the battery too.

**psr** · 08-22-2011, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by James View Post

Just what i wanted to know! I was going to change the front tyre on my bike yesterday. wanted to try the 3.00x18 moto-D as i prefer deeper tread and the design. I just put a 4.00 m45 on the rear. Getting a m45 for the front will be quite tough here in mlore. What are your thoughts on the same?

Moto D pattern is good and should give you better wet grip..In earlier posts owners have upgraded the front to 3.00 18 without issues...How did the fitting of M45 4.00 18 at the rear go ? guess there were no mods..
Have a look at Meteor from MRF...

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Originally posted by abhash View Post

psr sir at his humble and helpfull best

i guess i should also upsize the rear along with the front then
also will 3.00/18 require any mods and whats the max. size for the rear that i can put w/o any mods with swingarm etc.

Front should be able to accept 3.00/18 without issues...may be Aneesh can give us a better opinion.
The M45 4.00/18 at the rear can be fitted, but it should be centered carefully...otherwise it will hit either the chain guard or rear brake stay.
Look at MRF Meteor

Types of Tyres & Prices - MRF Tyres

http://www.mrftyres.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?pid=11

MRF Tyres exhibits a wide range of tyres for different vehicles, bikes, cars and for various terrains. Browse through the list and learn the details about whichever tyre you like.

Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post

I had asked for 9Amh battery to the shopkeeper but as you all know its a little larger than the battery box. I asked him to make the neccesary mods but he insisted that the 5Amh one won't cretae any problems. He said he had a lot of customers using 5Amh in their ZMA and they wer quite satisfied.

There is a catch as well : Currently I have 100/90 bulb in the headlight. I know it would burn off the reflector but I am searching for the phillips premium vision and would replace it as soon as I get it.Though I hardly ride the bike after sunset for the fear of getting the reflectors burnt(max 1hr in a week after sunset). Can this be the reason for the malfunctionong?

100/90 watts bulb should be removed ASAP..try the 50/60 watts Philips normal Halogen if you are not able to get the Exreme Vision.
The 5 AH battery must be charged at a lower current rating than a 9 AH..but the ZMA has no such arrangement and so the battery will be over charged and is likely to fail due to current and thermal shock.

**ashwinprakas** · 08-22-2011, 09:47 PM

Too tired to post in detail.

1. Got rid of belly cowl.

2. Got rid of reflectors.

3. Stunner (With cowl) crash guard added.

4. And yes, the 'U' clamp scratches the front mudguard. Will get it cut soon.

Total cost = Crash guard(475/-) + Fixing(30/-) + Cutting(20/-) = 525/-

**Vishakh** · 08-22-2011, 09:48 PM

Planning for second service tomorrow. What are the things to be inspected and taken care of?

. What are the parts that should be emphasized on?

no idea

friends please help

**Vishakh** · 08-22-2011, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Too tired to post in detail.

1. Got rid of belly cowl.

2. Got rid of reflectors.

3. Stunner (With cowl) crash guard added.

4. And yes, the 'U' clamp scratches the front mudguard. Will get it cut soon.

Total cost = Crash guard(475/-) + Fixing(30/-) + Cutting(20/-) = 525/-

please do upload the pics mate

**ashwinprakas** · 08-22-2011, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Planning for second service tomorrow. What are the things to be inspected and taken care of?

. What are the parts that should be emphasized on?

no idea

friends please help

Theres nothing much they'll do. Just check.

1. That they DONT top-up oil.

2. Check that they properly replace body panel's.

3. Check that they properly align rear wheel after tightening the chain.

DONE!!!

**ashwinprakas** · 08-22-2011, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

please do upload the pics mate

Will do tomorow asap bro.

Cause just now got back home and if I go down again, mom'll kill me...

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 08-22-2011, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Planning for second service tomorrow. What are the things to be inspected and taken care of?

. What are the parts that should be emphasized on?

no idea

friends please help

Clean Air Filter
Clean and lube Drive Chain and adjust as necessary.
Inspect and adjuct brakes if necessary
As ashwin said,never top up oil,Replace and fill with new oil.
Check tire pressure
Check Brake Fluid Level
Always check bike for damages before leaving the svc,like scratches in tank,body parts etc etc.

**acs1207** · 08-22-2011, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post

Hi,

Yesterday onwards my bike is behaving strange. I replaced the battery to Amaron MF 5Ah 2 months back. Yesterday suddenly the tripmeter was reset to zero, the self-start ceased to work and also the rpm & the speedo needle is working diifferently. I understand that the trip-meter & self-start problem is due to some battery issue, so need to get the battery checked. But about the RPM-Speedo needle, what can be the cause. The needles are functioning freely.
Gosh, its been 4 months I have got the pre-used ZMA and since then every week some or the other issues are raised.
Please help me.

Excess current in charging can shorten the life of the battery.

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

AFAIK Karizma speedo needs battery power for functioning properly,Both rpm,speed and the digital one needs battery power,Other wise every thing will be dead,IS 5Ah causing these problems? Why did you get a 5Ah instead of 7Ah ???

Originally posted by psr View Post

The 5AH battery is not the correct battery for the ZMA, with high charge currents...most probably the 5 AH battery is cooked by now.
The RPM and Speedo are both Electronic Analogue meters, and are dependent on the battery's steady supply...with battery being bad the pulses after 3 phase RR is full of spikes and not pure DC...this is triggering the meters to indicate erratic readings.

Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post

I had asked for 9Amh battery to the shopkeeper but as you all know its a little larger than the battery box. I asked him to make the neccesary mods but he insisted that the 5Amh one won't cretae any problems. He said he had a lot of customers using 5Amh in their ZMA and they wer quite satisfied.
The mods required are quite minor . Even a below average DIY person can do it (from what I've seen on the thread ) .
There is a catch as well : Currently I have 100/90 bulb in the headlight. I know it would burn off the reflector but I am searching for the phillips premium vision and would replace it as soon as I get it.Though I hardly ride the bike after sunset for the fear of getting the reflectors burnt(max 1hr in a week after sunset). Can this be the reason for the malfunctionong?

Sure it can be !

-Just one question - did you connect a relay or did you just swap the bulbs ? 100/90 on 7ah even with relay might raise eyebrows . If you didn't connect relay , check your wiring as well . While searching for the Philips Premium , shell out @ 80/- and get an ordinary 60/55 halogen . I'm wondering whether you have any snaps taken of your h/l light spread . I'm using 60/55 halonix and use H/L at least 30 - 50 minutes daily . No problems so far .

Originally posted by curse View Post

5Ah battery with 100/90 lamp

As PSR said your battery must be almost dead by now.Change to lower rating bulb and change the battery too.

Even if your battery ain't quite dead , it's better to replace it with at least a 7ah one . Before that , check your wiring -especially the H/L connection .

Originally posted by psr View Post

100/90 watts bulb should be removed ASAP..try the 50/60 watts Philips normal Halogen if you are not able to get the Exreme Vision.
The 5 AH battery must be charged at a lower current rating than a 9 AH..but the ZMA has no such arrangement and so the battery will be over charged and is likely to fail due to current and thermal shock.

If you have a multi meter , check the voltage of the 5AH battery without starting the bike . It should be above 12V -preferably above 12.5V.
If any friends has a 7AH battery , you can connect it and see whether everything works OK .

**Royzone** · 08-22-2011, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Clean Air Filter
Clean and lube Drive Chain and adjust as necessary.
Inspect and adjuct brakes if necessary
As ashwin said,never top up oil,Replace and fill with new oil.
Check tire pressure
Check Brake Fluid Level
Always check bike for damages before leaving the svc,like scratches in tank,body parts etc etc.

What about Oil filter? Nothing to be done with it?

Also about point 7, can you do anything about it apart from shouting if such unfortunate event happens?

**ashwinprakas** · 08-22-2011, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Royzone View Post

What about Oil filter? Nothing to be done with it?

Also about point 7, can you do anything about it apart from shouting if such unfortunate event happens?

ZMA doesnt have oil filter.

Point 7 can be handled by shouting and getting the damaged parts replaced.

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 08-22-2011, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by James View Post

wanted to try the 3.00x18 moto-D as i prefer deeper tread and the design.What are your thoughts on the same?

Originally posted by psr View Post

Moto D pattern is good and should give you better wet grip..In earlier posts owners have upgraded the front to 3.00 18 without issues...

I think Moto-D will spoil the cornering capabilities,I would say get something like M45,Sirac Street 2.75 etc.

Originally posted by psr View Post

The 5AH battery is not the correct battery for the ZMA, with high charge currents...most probably the 5 AH battery is cooked by now.
The RPM and Speedo are both Electronic Analogue meters, and are dependent on the battery's steady supply...with battery being bad the pulses after 3 phase RR is full of spikes and not pure DC...this is triggering the meters to indicate erratic readings.

Yeppeee.... My thought was right.

Originally posted by abhash View Post

i guess i should also upsize the rear along with the front then also will 3.00/18 require any mods and whats the max. size for the rear that i can put w/o any mods with swingarm etc.

110/90-18 can be fixed without any mods and 3.0 * 18 is optimal for front.

Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post

but he insisted that the 5Amh one won't create any problems. He said he had a lot of customers using 5Amh in their ZMA and they wer quite satisfied.

Never believe in shopkeepers words,Most of them tell us lies.

Currently I have 100/90 bulb in the headlight. Can this be the reason for the malfunctionong?

100/90 in ZMA,that too with a 5Ah battery?

100/90 watts bulb should be removed ASAP..try the 50/60 watts Philips normal Halogen if you are not able to get the Exreme Vision.
The 5 AH battery must be charged at a lower current rating than a 9 AH

Yeah,Try Philps Premium or Osram OEM Bulbs 55/60W,and You can try Exide 7Ah MF Battery with 2 Years Warranty.

**psr** · 08-22-2011, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by Royzone View Post

What about Oil filter? Nothing to be done with it?

Also about point 7, can you do anything about it apart from shouting if such unfortunate event happens?

Karizma has no replaceable oil filters...There is a wire mesh fliter in the drain bolt side,which can be cleaned and re-fitted....and there is a centrifugal filter inside the right side crankcase .It can be cleaned only by opening the right,Clutch side case and dismantling the filter to clean it.
Regarding scratches or damages to panel you can certainly ask for replacement within warranty..

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