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    Hello all today after driving for around 50 kms my bike faced with a strange problem . After reaching halt i switched off the bike and when i again started it after some 2 minutes the bike started and then when i put the bike in gear and opened throttle the bike conked off then i put the bike in neutral and again started the bike it started again but the moment i opened the throttle again it went off, this repeated a couple of times even with slight opening of throttle the bike went off all this time the idle RPM was showing only 1000 usually it shows 1500 when hot then i had to push the bike to the parking area and then i again started her all was back to normal the bike showed 1500 on rpm and revved up with the throttle i gave no idea what happened please help
    Cheetahs are faster but the lion is still the KING

    Being In Love with a Girl is like being a superbike fitted with SPEED LIMITER

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    • Originally posted by Vishakh View Post
      Hello all today after driving for around 50 kms my bike faced with a strange problem . After reaching halt i switched off the bike and when i again started it after some 2 minutes the bike started and then when i put the bike in gear and opened throttle the bike conked off then i put the bike in neutral and again started the bike it started again but the moment i opened the throttle again it went off, this repeated a couple of times even with slight opening of throttle the bike went off all this time the idle RPM was showing only 1000 usually it shows 1500 when hot then i had to push the bike to the parking area and then i again started her all was back to normal the bike showed 1500 on rpm and revved up with the throttle i gave no idea what happened please help
      You are developing loose contact in the CDI connector...see my post few pages back....The CDI is under the seat to the right (kicker side)..It is positioned after the side frame.....Try pulling and pushing the connector,and it will solve the problem..
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • Originally posted by aarunn View Post
        Price as on the Bill
        RIGHT COWL .982.46 Rs
        LEFT SIDE COWL 982.46 Rs
        CENTRE RR COWL 327.46
        FENDER FRONT (MUDGUARD) 793 Rs
        Ah! the fiber does cost quite a premium. I was thinking about changing the rear cowls as they have become too dark compared to the front fairing (this is weird, because usually colors fade and this is the opposite! I don't know if my eyes are noticing things incorrectly). Probably I should postpone since there aren't any major cracks.


        Originally posted by MAXzma View Post
        Too much work in office so wasn't able to go through the forum for a week. Finally read some 15 pages of content today!

        Got my carb cleaned yesterday. It was done by my same reliable mech. Lots of differences can be noticed now after the cleaning.
        - The bike revs smoothly.
        - Idling is better.
        - Previously, at times the engine used to switch off when idling in signals. Even that problem is solved now.
        - The overall sound of the bike seems to have changed and it sounds nice and smooth now!
        Dude, I gave a visit to the same mech in the evening @ around 5pm, damn we could've met somewhere. He rode my ZMA, and made it sure to me that the the bike is not as smooth as other ZMAs. Major contributor being the wornout chain which is hitting the guard making a ruckus. Also the clutch cable is tight, so needs oiling. He also showed me another ZMA he has in the guarage which has been riveted at the rear-cowl-screw areas, and the fibre doesn't budge even slightly. I am thinking about getting the fiber riveted at the joints, should solve the fiber vibration completely. Plus there's a bend in the front alloy, and he said correcting it will cost me about Rs 500. Plus changing the sprocket/chain about Rs. 1100.

        Btw, I had a small problem few weeks ago. My ZMA's display and engine used to turn itself off if I turned the handle bar to the right or left. This happened only at a specific point of the turning, and the bike display (not the engine) would turn itself back on if I was riding at an rpm of ~3k or above. If I were idling, turning the handlebar totally switched off the ignition, including the display, and the display would come back on when I turned the handlebar back to the normal/straight position. This happened while I was coming back from my classes, and was pretty scared at one time, since the bike went off in the middle of busy traffic with big trucks behind me. Plus their rude honking. After that, pressed the clutch a lot more, and revved the engine and kept it above 2k rpm even while idling.

        Later took it to a mechanic, it turned out that the wiring in the ignition switch (white in color, looks like a stepper motor with white casing) which sits directly below the ignition/bike-key slot, had developed some rust because of moisture leading to loose contact. He took off the handlebar, rewired, insulated and voila, bike is back to normal. Took about 20 minutes, since removing the handlebar area nuts was pretty time consuming. He suggested me to change the switch next time I give it for servicing.
        Last edited by prashk; 08-28-2011, 09:53 PM.

        The above posts are derived from aggregation of opinions of several xBhp ZMA riders, based on personal experience/common sense. Please be advised that some things might differ from manufacturer's recommendations.

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        • Originally posted by psr View Post
          You are developing loose contact in the CDI connector...see my post few pages back....The CDI is under the seat to the right (kicker side)..It is positioned after the side frame.....Try pulling and pushing the connector,and it will solve the problem..
          Thanks a lot sir i was thinking that it might be something because of dust in the carburetor jet, it hadn't occurred since then, it happened only that one time since then the bike is running perfectly, also is their any other possibilities that might cause the same fault?

          @ psr : saw your previous post regarding the CDI yeah it was the same situation for me too seems like condensation was the culprit for me as yesterday i washed the bike in the evening and today it was drizzling a bit so humid climate, didnt get time for proper dry up i think and today i was visiting a nearby dam the climate around there was very humid too
          Last edited by Vishakh; 08-28-2011, 10:52 PM.
          Cheetahs are faster but the lion is still the KING

          Being In Love with a Girl is like being a superbike fitted with SPEED LIMITER

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          • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
            It's interesting how by looking at the photo and that too a long shot could determine the authenticity.

            There are dealers sell genuine spares bought by placing orders with the factory, probably 247 motors is one of them.
            At first the source of the parts were'nt provided. So I assumed it was'nt authentic.

            But what made me feel suspicious was the packing, since spare parts from SVC always come in sealed packages. But I guess that too is irrelevant since the dealer packed it and sent it.

            And finally. The parts came with stickers. Originally ZMA parts dont come with stickers. But now since they'r generalizing there'd only be ZMA-R 2011 parts available(my conclusion). For example if we go and order the part that holds the fairing and frame, then we'll get the ones with the reflectors welded to it, we wont get the original plain one.


            Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
            how can you blindly quote on its authenticity ?? have you ever cross checked it?

            Fyi that svc is a known place for me and Mr. Ashwin is a close friend of mine.

            24X7 motors which is now OM BIKES is a very famous as well as one of the best HH SVC in Bangalore.
            When Arun bro, provided the pic, he didnt state its source. He just said that It was from b'lore. Thats why I ENQUIRED ABOUT ITS AUTHENTICITY AND TO CONFIRM I ALSO ASKED WHETHER HE AQUIRED IT FROM SVC. I wasnt accusing Mr.Ashwin(Cool name.), since I wasnt even aware whether Arun bro bought it from him. I was just curious on seeing the pic, so just enquired.

            AND

            Authentic or not, if theres a worthwhile cheap replacement anywhere out there. Then lemme have it!!!!

            Originally posted by Vishakh View Post
            Hello all today after driving for around 50 kms my bike faced with a strange problem . After reaching halt i switched off the bike and when i again started it after some 2 minutes the bike started and then when i put the bike in gear and opened throttle the bike conked off then i put the bike in neutral and again started the bike it started again but the moment i opened the throttle again it went off, this repeated a couple of times even with slight opening of throttle the bike went off all this time the idle RPM was showing only 1000 usually it shows 1500 when hot then i had to push the bike to the parking area and then i again started her all was back to normal the bike showed 1500 on rpm and revved up with the throttle i gave no idea what happened please help
            One of my stupid friends ran my bike dry. And kept on cranking.
            And I finally got to him and put the bike on reserve. But as soon as I pressed the started the bike started but the RPM started warrying from 0~2K as if the bike was breathing. So I just turned the key off and switched it on again. And everything went away. The bikes CDI's abit strange. So if you find the bike running odd then just restart it.
            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
              One of my stupid friends ran my bike dry. And kept on cranking.
              And I finally got to him and put the bike on reserve. But as soon as I pressed the started the bike started but the RPM started warrying from 0~2K as if the bike was breathing. So I just turned the key off and switched it on again. And everything went away. The bikes CDI's abit strange. So if you find the bike running odd then just restart it.
              restarted it a couple of times well it got ok though
              Cheetahs are faster but the lion is still the KING

              Being In Love with a Girl is like being a superbike fitted with SPEED LIMITER

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              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                And any specific size for the drill sir? Where can i get the drill done if I open the carb and take the slider out?

                Originally posted by psr View Post
                Try applying Liquid Gasket like Three Bond after cleaning surface and tighten only to necessary level...Wait at least 3 hours for liquid gasket to heal....if it doesn't work ,have to dismantle head and do the same as before.
                The thought came across before sir. But I thought the liquid gasket might go into the head and block oil supply or something. Any chance of that happening?

                Originally posted by prashk View Post
                Dude, I gave a visit to the same mech in the evening @ around 5pm, damn we could've met somewhere. He rode my ZMA, and made it sure to me that the the bike is not as smooth as other ZMAs. Major contributor being the wornout chain which is hitting the guard making a ruckus. Also the clutch cable is tight, so needs oiling. He also showed me another ZMA he has in the guarage which has been riveted at the rear-cowl-screw areas, and the fibre doesn't budge even slightly. I am thinking about getting the fiber riveted at the joints, should solve the fiber vibration completely. Plus there's a bend in the front alloy, and he said correcting it will cost me about Rs 500. Plus changing the sprocket/chain about Rs. 1100.
                Who saw it? The owner Mohan or the guy with the red tee? The guy is very trustworthy and does a very clean job. I was there till 3 in the afternoon!
                We are miles away from the routine.
                Headlights rise over the horizon.
                Pierce the morning fog.
                Cut through the clutter in our minds.
                Carve new highways!

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                • Today while lubing my chain with Aneesh we noticed that we could shift gears effortlessly without the clutch(bike was on center stand). So im abit curious about performing clutchless shifts while riding. But am not sure about the correct RPM range. Anyone here with some experience on the same.
                  Motorcycling Experience:
                  2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                  2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                  2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                  2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                  2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                  2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                  The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                  Adios Comrades!
                  A.P. 2018

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                  • Actually i came to know about that from you today! I didn't know that.. Didn't that damages the gear box?
                    Last edited by Aneesh@4GHz; 08-28-2011, 11:47 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                      Actually i came to know about that from you today! I didn't know that.. Didn't that damages the gear box?
                      Theres an optimum RPM if we do it properly there'll be no damage + more clutch life.

                      And not exactly sure about it, just got the above info from the GS150R post.
                      Motorcycling Experience:
                      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                      Adios Comrades!
                      A.P. 2018

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                      • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                        At first the source of the parts were'nt provided. So I assumed it was'nt authentic.

                        But what made me feel suspicious was the packing, since spare parts from SVC always come in sealed packages. But I guess that too is irrelevant since the dealer packed it and sent it.

                        And finally. The parts came with stickers. Originally ZMA parts dont come with stickers. But now since they'r generalizing there'd only be ZMA-R 2011 parts available(my conclusion). For example if we go and order the part that holds the fairing and frame, then we'll get the ones with the reflectors welded to it, we wont get the original plain one.




                        When Arun bro, provided the pic, he didnt state its source. He just said that It was from b'lore. Thats why I ENQUIRED ABOUT ITS AUTHENTICITY AND TO CONFIRM I ALSO ASKED WHETHER HE AQUIRED IT FROM SVC. I wasnt accusing Mr.Ashwin(Cool name.), since I wasnt even aware whether Arun bro bought it from him. I was just curious on seeing the pic, so just enquired.

                        AND

                        Authentic or not, if theres a worthwhile cheap replacement anywhere out there. Then lemme have it!!!!
                        With all due respect, kindly understand, inquire and learn before you post your thoughts. Here you had not found the facts as how the fairing are coming from the factory.
                        How do you feel if I had to tell your ZMA is fake just because your did not post scan details of your purchase? You can very well ask question learn and benefit but make sure your don't hurt someone by your blind perception.
                        RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                        2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                        • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                          With all due respect, kindly understand, inquire and learn before you post your thoughts. Here you had not found the facts as how the fairing are coming from the factory.
                          How do you feel if I had to tell your ZMA is fake just because your did not post scan details of your purchase? You can very well ask question learn and benefit but make sure your don't hurt someone by your blind perception.
                          LOl!!! C'mon sir am I the only one who gets misunderstood here.

                          If I post a pic of me sitting on a ZMA which has puppy dog grafitti, what would be your first question????

                          "IS IT CUSTOM PAINTED?"

                          Yup since ZMA's dont come that way you'd assume its custom painted, right? Thats exactly the same what happened here.

                          I didnt accuse anyone or claim anything. I just asked, putting in your words I was trying to ENQUIRE & LEARN. Here's my original post, so that you can confirm.

                          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                          You bought them from blore right? Hmmm... Am starting to doubt their authenticity, how much did they cost??? And did you get them from HMC SVC??
                          But still, If you guys feel am wrong then, my heartfelt apologies.
                          Motorcycling Experience:
                          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                          Adios Comrades!
                          A.P. 2018

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                          • Originally posted by MAXzma View Post
                            And any specific size for the drill sir? Where can i get the drill done if I open the carb and take the slider out?
                            The drill size is 1.5 mm normal and maximum you can drill is 2.3mm..do not go above this size as it will cause the slide to flutter,ie., move up and down even at constant throttle,and cause problems.
                            The thought came across before sir. But I thought the liquid gasket might go into the head and block oil supply or something. Any chance of that happening?
                            Unless you put in Excess this will not happen...apply a thin coat ..say about 3mm width of the Three bond all around and it will seal ok.
                            replies in bold...
                            Last edited by psr; 08-29-2011, 11:41 AM.
                            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                            • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                              Theres an optimum RPM if we do it properly there'll be no damage + more clutch life.

                              And not exactly sure about it, just got the above info from the GS150R post.
                              In any Synchromesh gear box this is feasible...but if you try shifting at the wrong RPM your gear box will be damaged necessitating crankcase opening and gear box re-build.
                              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                              • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                                I thought you were posting pics of stem oil seals and core components and only to find full blown ZMA pics.
                                Here it is bro. Changed the Tappet bolt O-Ring and now Zero Oil Leaks.

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