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  • #1036
    @Saif: The Zma is known to be a very enthusiastic chain-sprocket consumer
    For prolonging the life of the two, I bought myself a 500ml can of Castrol SAE-90 Manual Gear Oil for lubing the chain. Have been lubing the chain every 500kms.
    Costs 98 bucks and comes recommended by one of the oil gurus: Raccoon
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    • #1037
      I am using Chain Spray from OKS.
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      • #1038
        ^^That's an equally good albeit expensive option
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        • #1039
          Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
          I am using Chain Spray from OKS.
          Originally posted by MavericK46 View Post
          ^^That's an equally good albeit expensive option
          We were surprised when Ravi's ZMA did our 2000 KM tour on all sorts of terrain and high speed highway runs without a sound from the chain when we applied the OKS worth its salt.

          BTW, a SAE 90 gear oil is no thicker than an SAE 40 or 50 Engine oils. But what makes the oil work better than the engine oil that our mechanics spray is
          1) it would be new oil as against used oil sprayed on the chain - usually.
          2) the engine oils we use are multigrade and would be thinner than a single grade SAE 50 oil at normal temperature.

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          • #1040
            Originally posted by HydBiker View Post

            BTW, a SAE 90 gear oil is no thicker than an SAE 40 or 50 Engine oils.


            2) the engine oils we use are multigrade and would be thinner than a single grade SAE 50 oil at normal temperature.

            Both seem contradictory

            I have used both and i can say that SAE 90 oil is very much thicker than the multigrade oils we use for engines.
            When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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            • #1041
              ^^^ they both are supporting statements... not contradictory. what my previous post lacks is a concluding statement which was left for you to imagine in the flow and not by breaking it.

              In the end SAE 90 gear oil is thicker than any engine oil we generally see these days... because those engine oils are multi grade. if you manage to get a SAE 50 Engine oil please do compare that with SAE 90 gear oil. Else, listen to what SAE has to say.

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              • #1042
                ^^^ Oh, I dont know what SAE has got to say, but my above post was not meant to be offensive as taken by u.

                Just made my point that SAE 90 oil IS Thicker than the normal engine oils we use!

                I didnt comment anything on what SAE has got to say
                When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                • #1043
                  Mental note: KP's statement and Ravi's experience might just force me to try the OKS spray once i exhaust this can of Castrol

                  @KP and Ravi: Will i have to buy the chain cleaner also though..?
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                  • #1044
                    Originally posted by MavericK46 View Post
                    Mental note: KP's statement and Ravi's experience might just force me to try the OKS spray once i exhaust this can of Castrol

                    @KP and Ravi: Will i have to buy the chain cleaner also though..?
                    You can use Kerosene .
                    the degreasers are only for those who dont like their hands dirty and its also more convenient

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                    • #1045
                      Originally posted by MavericK46 View Post
                      Mental note: KP's statement and Ravi's experience might just force me to try the OKS spray once i exhaust this can of Castrol
                      One question from me; How do u apply the Oil to the chain?

                      Do u use any kind of an oil dispenser? Whenever i use SAE90 i have no other option but to get my hands dirty.
                      When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                      • #1046
                        Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
                        One question from me; How do u apply the Oil to the chain?

                        Do u use any kind of an oil dispenser? Whenever i use SAE90 i have no other option but to get my hands dirty.
                        When i use sae 90 , i dip a Toothbrush in oil and then alpply on the chain and also keep rotating the wheel with other hand .

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                        • #1047
                          Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post
                          When i use sae 90 , i dip a Toothbrush in oil and then alpply on the chain and also keep rotating the wheel with other hand .
                          Thanx for the reply mate Will try that next time. I also apply some Valvoline MP grease every time i lube the chain!
                          When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                          • #1048
                            Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            I did not see this previously. Thought you have run the engine for a minute before removing the engine oil. How come you run engine without engine oil??? You are truly crazy and insane.
                            Actually I read something like this on somewhere. I asked the mechanic also. He said you can do it for 30 seconds. I wanted to drain the mineral oil completely as I was going fully synthetic for the first time.
                            THough I dont think it has caused any damage but it was a complete waiste also as even running the engine on idle for 40-50 sec only 4-5 extra drops of oil came down. No use
                            Rachit K Dogra

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                            • #1049
                              Originally posted by insanebiker View Post
                              ^^^ Oh, I dont know what SAE has got to say, but my above post was not meant to be offensive as taken by u.

                              Just made my point that SAE 90 oil IS Thicker than the normal engine oils we use!

                              I didnt comment anything on what SAE has got to say
                              Sorry dude... I neither got offended nor meant to offend or point out someone. Guess my words were not put together very well.

                              It is funny how we both want to say the same thing but end up pointing out each other

                              Originally posted by MavericK46 View Post
                              Mental note: KP's statement and Ravi's experience might just force me to try the OKS spray once i exhaust this can of Castrol

                              @KP and Ravi: Will i have to buy the chain cleaner also though..?
                              that gear oil can is gonna last really long for you... and even after that I'd say - don't splurge your money on what is not needed. Ravi used it as an experiment as I had the OKS Lube can for my R15's o-ring Chain.

                              You might want to stick to the gear oil and grease technique that works very well and is inexpensive.

                              Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post
                              You can use Kerosene .
                              the degreasers are only for those who dont like their hands dirty and its also more convenient
                              Yes, Kerosine is better any day.

                              Originally posted by rachitkdogra View Post
                              Actually I read something like this on somewhere. I asked the mechanic also. He said you can do it for 30 seconds. I wanted to drain the mineral oil completely as I was going fully synthetic for the first time.
                              THough I dont think it has caused any damage but it was a complete waiste also as even running the engine on idle for 40-50 sec only 4-5 extra drops of oil came down. No use
                              Don't want to pin you more for that but if you really want to drain more engine oil from the engine then wait patiently for the drain to happen, tilt the bike one side, hond, then back to normal and tilt to other side, hold then back and might want to repeat this once more.

                              As such, there is absolutely no problem mixing Synthetic & mineral oils... only that you would want to take out the used oil as much as possible and have fresh oil poured in.

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                              • #1050
                                ^^True KP. I think im gonna be using the oil for a reallllly long time
                                Its working really well too. The chain nose comes down significantly after a session of oiling.

                                I don't clean the chain as it doesn't seem to be getting dirty thanks to the excellent chain guard that comes with the Zma. Hence, havent bothered with de-greasing etc.
                                Btw, I oil the chain but apply no grease whatsoever. As for the oil, i use the dispenser that one finds at garages. The one with a long spout and a trigger-like mechanism at the other end.
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