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  • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    So I guess this can be considered as a quick fix to people facing issues with the horn or other electricals.
    Ashwin, first of all it was not determined the cause of the issue. Well, one is not having clear understanding on the malfunctioning how do we consider your method as a quick fix solution?

    Also, not many would try to ride the bike with both hi and low beam 'ON'. Only highly literate/knowledgable like you might try out.
    RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

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    • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
      Guys sorry, forgot to post an observation. This applies for people using the stock 6A battery.

      While riding for a while with both high and low beam on at the same time(Switch stuck in mid position.) the horn started going berserk, it'd only honk when it felt like i.e when you press the button nothing happens, after a few secs it honks on its own. So I switched to low beam and downed to 4th gear so that the RPM would stay around 5~6k. After like 10 or 20 secs everything came back to normal, horn was working fine, and after that went back to both high and low being on at the same time and everything worked normally. So I guess this can be considered as a quick fix to people facing issues with the horn or other electricals.
      ride with hi and low beam at the same time??i wouldn't do so if im asked to ride in hell though! think of oncomers or atleast the zma's poor reflector!!

      Anyways, my zma got the stator coil replaced..dont know whether it was done under warranty or stripped from another one.Didn't get the zeroed out bill. My sugesstion to all owners whose zma is still under manufacturer warranty. Do not alter any of the wiring things in the bike for any reason. It would turn out to be a hard thing either to bring back to stock or to explain/compromise the supervisor on what u've done. depends upon the knowledge of the mech or supervisor. I had a very hard time explainig things to thatsup fellow.Atlast he compromised with feww hundreds! though mine was just a small slice of plastic coat on the horn main wire done to feed twin horns. Really hate to ride it with stock electricals..atleast headlight and horn. will be 9amped tomorrow!
      Also, front cowl vibrates alot after returning home spending 2 good weeks in service centre..was almost to purchase pulsar's bolt washer kit for 60rs thinking of choosing things from it that would fit in zma's screws..Before doing so just enquired a hardware shop for washers.wow that guy had nylon washers of many manyy sizes..bought 20 for 20rs.voila!! most of them fit in fairing screws and vibes are nill!
      Last edited by vivekarizma; 07-28-2012, 04:11 AM.
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      • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
        Ashwin, first of all it was not determined the cause of the issue. Well, one is not having clear understanding on the malfunctioning how do we consider your method as a quick fix solution?

        Also, not many would try to ride the bike with both hi and low beam 'ON'. Only highly literate/knowledgable like you might try out.
        This isnt the first time this is happening. Last time was running at around 50kmph with just low beam and my horn went "buk buk". The next day after riding fast for a while everything went back to normal. So I've concluded that riding at higher rpm's is the only way to fix the issue.

        Edit.

        Here the pocket roads are'nt lighted at all hence the need for both beams being on at the same time, High to see the road ahead and low to make sure there arent any deadly potholes. And added to that a poor eye sight. This method was used by R15 and Fazer people, before stumbling on this, I used to press and hold the pass while riding on similar road conditions, but that considerably reduced my riding capabilities and took more time to respond, guess its cause am concentrating on the pass while riding. So I find sticking the switch in between the best fix for the time being. But when it comes to riding elsewhere I stick to lowbeams, cause the highbeams are useless since the roads far ahead are already illuminated by the street lamps and the only think to look out for are crazy dogs popping out of no where.
        Last edited by ashwinprakas; 07-28-2012, 04:36 AM.
        Motorcycling Experience:
        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
        Adios Comrades!
        A.P. 2018

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        • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
          Nothing wrong there, at higher rpm's theres a mild metalic thump added to the engine note, its like a metallic pistonning noise. and thats completely normal. Every bike has it, and normally we dont notice it, unless we're particularly fishing for some weird engine sounds.
          Aswin, its not the regular characteristic metalic sound of ZMA. Its something different. I love ZMA, and I have three years of experience with it, and I can recognize Karizma going in traffic without seeing it, just by the sound it makes.

          With odo at 51k, and for two years its not under my care, I am certain that something is not right in the engine. Have to find out whats the exact cause; timing chain or valves. I need to find a person who can diagnose and prescribe the right medicine for it. I don't want to reopen the head again and again.

          And, the bike behaves very much normal. It can go to 100 kmph without any issues, but with a little more noise. No smoke from the engine, the exhaust canister has a little dust, which is normal.

          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
          Take it to a reputed lathe. Arun bro had faced a similar issue and was sorted out by a lathe, he got a replacement AFR screw as well.
          Yup! Will do that and before that, I need to source the AFR screw first.


          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
          Here the pocket roads are'nt lighted at all hence the need for both beams being on at the same time, High to see the road ahead and low to make sure there arent any deadly potholes. And added to that a poor eye sight. This method was used by R15 and Fazer people, before stumbling on this, I used to press and hold the pass while riding on similar road conditions, but that considerably reduced my riding capabilities and took more time to respond, guess its cause am concentrating on the pass while riding. So I find sticking the switch in between the best fix for the time being. But when it comes to riding elsewhere I stick to lowbeams, cause the highbeams are useless since the roads far ahead are already illuminated by the street lamps and the only think to look out for are crazy dogs popping out of no where.
          If you are doing this for the purpose of a safe ride, you can do, but I guess you are ready to face the consequences on electricals.
          HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
          Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

          Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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          • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
            My bike is almost six years old and the odo is at 51,000 kms. I need to do a thorough check of all the things. I am planning to replace the following things:

            • Cone set
            • Handle bar (bent with a fall, but mechanic adjusted as of now)
            • Front cowls vibrating due to falls, need to check if the joints are broken. If broken, needs replacement. Also all the plastic and rubber parts in side the front cowl needs replacement, as they are at the end of the life.
            • Needs a better horn
            • Wiring needs to be checked (good with no problems as of now), as I once fitted a relay assembly and the mechanic cut the main wiring at that time.
            • The rear shocks appear good, but off late I am feeling bottoming out.
            • Brake pads need replacement
            • Chain-sprocket needs replacement
            • Lock-set needs replacement (I have only one duplicate key; original two keys gone, and the cutting of duplicate key is not good)
            • Rear fendor has turned white with lots of scratches, planning to replace.


            And now comes the engine.

            Replaced the Tensioner recently. Now my bike is vibration free even after 100 kmph, but there is some kind of knocking in initial gears. If I give bursts of acceleration, there is a metalic sound from engine. I have no clue as to whats exactly wrong. Previously PSR sir suggested me to look at cam chain, guides, rocker arms and cam shaft. Now, today, the mechanic says, the problem is with valves and asked me to replace the valves. My trusted mechanic has been missing since 4 months and I don't have anybody to sit and do the engine work.

            Also, the carb needs cleaning and tuning. The AFR screw got struck and it also needs replacement.

            Spark plug and air components already changed.

            Any suggestions?
            For Cone set go for the OE or SKF.
            For the rubber parts they are available separately at most Motorcycle spare shops...I had fixed a thinner rubber grommet for the front fairing fixing and find that the fairing vibes have become considerably less....The one on the left is the OE while the right one is what i had used..

            I had bought and fixed a 2 Amps 400 Hz (high tune) horn along with the OE horn without relay and it is good.
            If you are doubtful of the wiring , take out extra fittings and run, or better still change the wiring kit , if you feel it will help.
            Brake pads...RTR pads are good...if you want better still ,go for Ninja 250 front pads..
            Rollon Chain and sprocket kit is good and is about 890/- for the set.
            There are good Key makers who can make a Good duplicate key for the ZMA...
            You can spray paint the mudguards instead of changing it...
            Few ZMA owners had issues with cam and rocker wear at even 20~35 k Kms...hence i suggest you check those as you have 51 k Kms on odo.
            Apply Brake oil or 2T on the AFR screw, soak for 10~15 minutes and try the screw....if it still fails, then keep a small screw driver (line tester) on the AFR screw and gently tap on it...this will surely loosen the screw.
            Last edited by psr; 07-28-2012, 12:15 PM.
            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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            • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
              My bike is almost six years old and the odo is at 51,000 kms. I need to do a thorough check of all the things. I am planning to replace the following things:
              • Tyres (Changed to SS and M45 just two days back).
              • Cone set
                Go for SKF cone set that too ask for SKF cage model for splendor. You will get the old model racer with the balls arranged in plastic cage. This racer will make your handle feel like there is no friction. Cost is Rs.320 and if you want then i can post a photo.
              • Handle bar (bent with a fall, but mechanic adjusted as of now)
              • Front cowls vibrating due to falls, need to check if the joints are broken. If broken, needs replacement. Also all the plastic and rubber parts in side the front cowl needs replacement, as they are at the end of the life.
                If you go for karizma rubber part then you will not get it. Just take the part and show it to spares shop. Most hero honda bikes like splendor,passion, joy, glamor use similar rubber bush and you can get it easily.
              • Needs a better horn
                Go for dual horn from MICO.
              • Wiring needs to be checked (good with no problems as of now), as I once fitted a relay assembly and the mechanic cut the main wiring at that time.
                If it is not causing any problem then do not fiddle with it. Chances are that it will cause problem after fiddling.
              • The rear shocks appear good, but off late I am feeling bottoming out.
                Check and adjust to harder setting. If not possible change to new shocks.
              • Brake pads need replacement
                Go for RTR or OE pads or else NINJA pads
              • Chain-sprocket needs replacement
                Go for ROLON or DIAMOND. Present OE sprocket kit is useless as sometimes HERO chains are packed and these do not last for 10k. If you can get go for DIAMOND and they will last for 30-40k without breaking a sweat.
              • Lock-set needs replacement (I have only one duplicate key; original two keys gone, and the cutting of duplicate key is not good)
                Ask for original blank key. They are available in most spares shop. Go to a person who cuts key using machine. Remember go for OE blank key as they are made of brass and the locals are made of steel.
              • Rear fendor has turned white with lots of scratches, planning to replace.

              Just go to any good painter and ask him to paint the fender MATT black.
              And now comes the engine.

              Replaced the Tensioner recently. Now my bike is vibration free even after 100 kmph, but there is some kind of knocking in initial gears. If I give bursts of acceleration, there is a metalic sound from engine. I have no clue as to whats exactly wrong. Previously PSR sir suggested me to look at cam chain, guides, rocker arms and cam shaft. Now, today, the mechanic says, the problem is with valves and asked me to replace the valves. My trusted mechanic has been missing since 4 months and I don't have anybody to sit and do the engine work.
              Check the rockers and camshafts. Also check the heads for carbon deposit. If there is carbon deposit then clean the head. At 51k your head will require DE-carbonization and if not cleaned then it will cause metallic noise on acceleration. Just open the spark plug and peep using a torch. If there is thick carbon deposit on piston top then open the head and clean it. a carbon head will cause metallic noise on accelerating.
              Also, the carb needs cleaning and tuning. The AFR screw got struck and it also needs replacement.
              Psr Ji has already replied.
              Spark plug and air components already changed.

              Any suggestions?
              Replies in bold.
              Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                keep a small screw driver (line tester) on the AFR screw and gently tap on it...this will surely loosen the screw.
                sir, correct me if am wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that even applying a little too much force than necessary can damage the afr screw and can cause the bike to run richer than expected.
                Motorcycling Experience:
                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                Adios Comrades!
                A.P. 2018

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                • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  sir, correct me if am wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that even applying a little too much force than necessary can damage the afr screw and can cause the bike to run richer than expected.
                  Please read my post...first to soak in Brake oil or 2 T for 10 minutes or so ,then try to turn the AFR screw, ...and then I had said use the line tester screwdriver and gently tap on it....I did not ask it to be hammered...there is a difference between the two terms of expression,and the force to be applied..
                  secondly how will bike run rich if AFR screw is damaged ? it can also be otherwise isn't it ?Please read up on the basics,and analyze ....
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    sir, correct me if am wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that even applying a little too much force than necessary can damage the afr screw and can cause the bike to run richer than expected.
                    Actually it is a practice to slightly tap on the screw to loosen it from ages. Else hoe do mechanics open screw which cannot be opened by anyone. The force of tapping is what differentiates between a good mechanic. The amount of force applied depend on the area of application.
                    You haven't seen when the HUB pin of old scooters are opened. They are hammered so hard that you will fear they will break. A experienced mechanic knows how to give blows so that it opens without breaking.
                    In case of jammed screws, the oxide layer between the screw and threads jams the screw. So lightly tapping it will break the oxide layer and free the screw.
                    Moreover a damaged AFR screw will make the mixture lean but you can always change the AFR screw to new one. Company knows AFR are most changed part in a carburettor and so they are easily available.
                    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                    • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                      Actually it is a practice to slightly tap on the screw to loosen it from ages. Else hoe do mechanics open screw which cannot be opened by anyone. The force of tapping is what differentiates between a good mechanic. The amount of force applied depend on the area of application.
                      You haven't seen when the HUB pin of old scooters are opened. They are hammered so hard that you will fear they will break. A experienced mechanic knows how to give blows so that it opens without breaking.
                      In case of jammed screws, the oxide layer between the screw and threads jams the screw. So lightly tapping it will break the oxide layer and free the screw.
                      Moreover a damaged AFR screw will make the mixture lean but you can always change the AFR screw to new one. Company knows AFR are most changed part in a carburettor and so they are easily available.
                      I know that, but the case with the AFR screw is different.
                      Dealing with Deformed Oil Drain Bolts

                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      secondly how will bike run rich if AFR screw is damaged ? it can also be otherwise isn't it ?Please read up on the basics,and analyze ....
                      I dont remember the exact reason but it has something to do with the Tip of the AFR screw getting either depressed, hence there'd be an additional clearance which will result in the AFR being rich than before. This is also the same reason why the Honda manual warns against completely closing the ARF screw. There was also some content regarding the material used in making AFR screw etc, anyways will try to look for the source and post for info's sake.
                      Motorcycling Experience:
                      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                      Adios Comrades!
                      A.P. 2018

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                      • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                        There was also some content regarding the material used in making AFR screw etc, anyways will try to look for the source and post for info's sake.
                        Don't do it for " info's sake "...but to educate yourself and gain better knowledge..when the AFR screw moves inward it will make the AFR lean...
                        You are still not clear in understanding this, which is why i asked you to learn the basics of the CV Carb.......
                        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                        • Originally posted by psr View Post
                          For Cone set go for the OE or SKF.
                          For the rubber parts they are available separately at most Motorcycle spare shops...I had fixed a thinner rubber grommet for the front fairing fixing and find that the fairing vibes have become considerably less....The one on the left is the OE while the right one is what i had used..

                          I had bought and fixed a 2 Amps 400 Hz (high tune) horn along with the OE horn without relay and it is good.
                          If you are doubtful of the wiring , take out extra fittings and run, or better still change the wiring kit , if you feel it will help.
                          Brake pads...RTR pads are good...if you want better still ,go for Ninja 250 front pads..
                          Rollon Chain and sprocket kit is good and is about 890/- for the set.
                          There are good Key makers who can make a Good duplicate key for the ZMA...
                          You can spray paint the mudguards instead of changing it...
                          Few ZMA owners had issues with cam and rocker wear at even 20~35 k Kms...hence i suggest you check those as you have 51 k Kms on odo.
                          Apply Brake oil or 2T on the AFR screw, soak for 10~15 minutes and try the screw....if it still fails, then keep a small screw driver (line tester) on the AFR screw and gently tap on it...this will surely loosen the screw.
                          Thanks for the inputs sir. And regarding the key, I lost both the original keys, and the one right now I have is a duplicate key that is bluntly cut. It will not suffice to make a duplicate key based on this one.

                          And regarding the AFR screw, I am gonna replace it, so I will not worry if it deforms while removing it. But, initially will follow the method with WD40 oil and soaking. If this doesn't work, then other forceful methods will be used and will replace the screw with new one.

                          Yes, painting the mudguard is a nice option; will look into it. And, is it possible for me to replace it with any other bike's, such as Dazzler? I find the design of it to be outdated in the current scenario.

                          And as for the wiring kit, there are absolutely no issues as of now. I am running with Bosch 9-amps battery and will give for recharge once. I need to thoroughly check the wiring with an expert.

                          As for the engine, many doubts have been raised, from timing chain till valves. I need to find out an expert mechanic who can diagnose these parts with precision.

                          All the cables are recently changed. Also the front fork oil seals as well as oil. The rear shocks set at softest setting, and it is bottoming out easily with good bumps. Need to adjust it.


                          Originally posted by sibun View Post
                          Replies in bold.
                          Thanks for the valuable inputs. Where can I source this Diamond chain and what is the price of it? If its too costly, I will settle for Rollon.

                          And regarding the cone set, will the splendor's cone set tolerate Karizma's?

                          Regarding the key, please read above.

                          And, will open the head and check for the carbon soon. Meanwhile, I will take out the sparkplug and will take picture of it and will post it here.
                          Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 07-28-2012, 04:04 PM.
                          HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                          Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                          Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                          • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            Thanks for the inputs sir. And regarding the key, I lost both the original keys, and the one right now I have is a duplicate key with bluntly cut key. It will not suffice to make a duplicate key based on this one.

                            And regarding the AFR screw, I am gonna replace it, so I will not worry if it deforms while removing it. But, initially will follow the method with WD40 oil and soaking. If this doesn't work, then other forceful methods will be used and will replace the screw with new one.

                            Yes, painting the mudguard is a nice option; will look into it. And, is it possible for me to replace it with any other bike's, such as Dazzler? I find the design of it to be outdated in the current scenario.
                            You have to see the fitting compatibility.
                            And as for the wiring kit, there are absolutely no issues as of now. I am running with Bosch 9-amps battery and will give for recharge once. I need to thoroughly check the wiring with an expert.

                            As for the engine, many doubts have been raised, from timing chain till valves. I need to find out an expert mechanic who can diagnose these parts with precision.

                            All the cables are recently changed. Also the front fork oil seals as well as oil. The rear shocks set at softest setting, and it is bottoming out easily with good bumps. Need to adjust it.




                            Thanks for the valuable inputs. Where can I source this Diamond chain and what is the price of it? If its too costly, I will settle for Rollon.
                            Diamond is not costly. In fact it is same as ROLON cost but is better in quality. IT is manufactured by TIDC and the website is:-
                            TIDC India - India / SAARC Brand - Automobile Chains
                            These come as original with bike.
                            If you want you can go for DIAMOND timing chain also.


                            And regarding the cone set, will the splendor's cone set tolerate Karizma's?
                            Hero honda has two types of cone-set.
                            1. Old model as in splendor,passion,joy,karizma
                            2. New model as in cd-dawn,glamor,achiever,extreme,zmr,passion pro,splendor pro
                            Yours is old model and you are having the same as splendor cone set.
                            The new cone set are good as OE.
                            but the old model cone set from OE are not good. So go for SKF. Go to dealer of SKF and ask for cage model racer of old model. I will post the part number.
                            What you are changing from ASC is splendor racer and the funny thing is that the same for splendor labor charge is Rs. 80 while for KARIZMA is Rs. 200 or something.

                            Regarding the key, I please read above.
                            Ok change the complete lock set. You can go for OE or MINDA.
                            And, will open the head and check for the carbon soon. Meanwhile, I will take out the sparkplug and will take picture of it and will post it here.Check inside the spark plug hole, the top of piston and you will see carbon. I am 100% sure, at 51k your bike will require manual de-carbonization. Do the same and see your noise will vanish and bike will become smooth like new.
                            Replies in bold.
                            Regarding availability of diamond you have both ware house and plant in Hyderabad. Contact xbhp:-shoeb and he can help you.
                            However you can get the address here:-
                            http://www.tidcindia.in/RC_RegionalOffice.html
                            The parts catalog is:-
                            http://www.tidcindia.in/pdf/PocketCatalogueNEW.pdf
                            Last edited by sibun; 07-28-2012, 04:19 PM.
                            Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                            • Originally posted by capnoty View Post
                              Hi Sir it was me if you could guide me step by step ill be reall glad as my mech says its not possible
                              Hi .
                              First things first .
                              You must have either the help of a mech or the ability to do it yourself in order to complete the conversion . If your mech says it can't be done , there must be a reason why he is saying it . In this case I think it might be that he doesn't know how to go about it . First you have to tell him about the things to be done .
                              Those will be --
                              1 - Get a 220's 1st oversize piston (1st oversize will have 25 punched on top ). I'm not sure about going for 2nd oversize piston since it might require more and complicated work than I've done .
                              2 . Re-bore the ZMA cyl to accommodate the piston .
                              3 . Piston rings to be inserted .
                              4 . Shaving off a bit of the piston's top is required since the P220 piston is curved . Will tell you details later .
                              5 . Have to fabricate an item out of brass .It has to be made from a brass rod . So a lathe where the mech has good contact is required . Will give details later .
                              6 . Have to shave the metal gasket to accommodate the increased piston size .
                              These are the things I can think of right now . Please contact the mech and ask him whether he can do these things .

                              While modding my ZMA I told my mech that the risk will be mine . I bought a 2nd hand cylinder and did the mod on it so that if anything goes wrong I could revert to the old status . Luckily I didn't face any problems .

                              Finally , read all disclaimers printed on all packaged articles and assume all of them are applicable to this mod !!

                              We can continue this discussion after getting a reply from you .

                              Good luck in your quest for a 235cc ZMA .
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                              • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                                Hi .
                                4 . Shaving off a bit of the piston's top is required since the P220 piston is curved . Will tell you details later .
                                Does the original piston come with some kind of a piston crown coating like ceramic? If it does you will most probably be heading for disaster if you shave the piston crown.

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