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  • #13771
    Originally posted by Touseef Ahmed Mohammed View Post
    Beautiful & Clear pics
    Would be better if you have gone up with new Bore kit.
    All the Best, Hope your bike does Best.
    Thank you! I went for rebore to experiment and learn. If this doesn't work, I will go for new bore kit.
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    • #13772
      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
      Thank you! I went for rebore to experiment and learn. If this doesn't work, I will go for new bore kit.
      This surely does work bro. I have done this earlier in my Cbz Star 2004 Model.
      But the feel of New Bore, is a quite different Feel.
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      • #13773
        @ Ravi .....good clear pictures and video...the person working on the bore seem to know what he is doing,since he is doing it right...
        The marks on the Gears is something i had not seen even in my 1,30,000 Kms done KB 100....either the pitting/marks are caused by Acid or basically manufacturing mistakes...
        USHA is the best in business for Piston and good to see that you were able to source it....
        Change all Bearings, "O" rings, OIL SEALS and ofcourse Gaskets to ensure that you have trouble free experience after the job...
        Use Mineral oil only for the first 250~300 Kms and thereafter change to a good oil with ZDDP for better moving parts protection..
        Since you have gone up to 2nd oversize you will get better power and FE...
        Good Luck
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        • #13774
          @Ravi

          Nice too see that you have sourced OEM parts sir. Please do post a video of the first fire up after the re-birth. I wish you all the the best.
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          • #13775
            Ravi sir, thanks a lot for the pics and videos. Now got a clear idea about how reboring is done. Well why dents on the teeth of 2nd and 3rd gear? what caused it?. Are you planning to replace them?
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            • #13776
              IMHO, your engine looks pretty neat for a '05 bike.
              Only means you've maintained it pretty well

              Will be looking forward to first startup video once you're done.

              Btw, are you sure you couldn't fit a 600cc cylinder there
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              • #13777
                Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                Thank you! I went for rebore to experiment and learn. If this doesn't work, I will go for new bore kit.
                Nice clear pics .

                No reason for it to not work .
                If you really want to experiment , you can do what I did . I upped the cc to 235 , but it takes some ( just a little bit ) work from a person who's knowledgeable .
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                • #13778
                  Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                  Thank you! I went for rebore to experiment and learn. If this doesn't work, I will go for new bore kit.
                  can i have the boring fellows details ? location/address ?
                  and also the price breakdown of spares and labor..

                  btw.. prior to this rebuild which engine oil grade did you use ? after the rebuild i assume you will be running at least 20w40.

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                  • #13779
                    Ravi uncle, My Zma is starting to drink oil. But it will be another year before i can go for a rebuild :P

                    I will test ride your bike once done
                    07 HH Zma
                    11 Honda Aviator DLX
                    14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
                    16 Scooty Zest
                    11 CBR 250R

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                    • #13780
                      Hello guys, has any one here used Motul 7100, if so how did it perform

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                      • #13781
                        Thank you all for the wishes and inputs. Today I have roamed entire city for sourcing the parts (2nd and 3rd gear, Primary gear, O rings, oil seals, all bearings in crank case (total 7, including crank shaft). I was literally pissed off when almost all the Hero Spares shop say no spares of karizma. I shouted and yelled at them for not keeping spares of Karizma that they have been selling the same bike for the past 10 years. I was able to get only oil seals kit and some o rings from Authorized Spares Centers. All the rest of the spares I was able to get from a local Automobile shop (lucky me).

                        All the engine parts cleaned thoroughly using almost 2.5L of petrol. Thanks to Kishore, a very hard-working mechanic.




                        Pictures of the cylinder surface after honing




                        A close-up of the cylinder surface highlighting the honing marks (highlighted due to direct sunlight)




                        Valves after lapping is done.





                        My mechanic slipped out of the shop and came only in the evening. So assembling of the engine would takes place tomorrow morning. Eagerly waiting for that.
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                        Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                        Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                        • #13782
                          Originally posted by HeartBrokenBiker View Post
                          IMHO, your engine looks pretty neat for a '05 bike.
                          Only means you've maintained it pretty well

                          Will be looking forward to first startup video once you're done.

                          Btw, are you sure you couldn't fit a 600cc cylinder there
                          Correction: Mine is '06 model and not '05. Give me your Nano's engine; I will fit it.

                          I will take video of the first fire up and post the video.

                          Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                          Nice clear pics .

                          No reason for it to not work .
                          If you really want to experiment , you can do what I did . I upped the cc to 235 , but it takes some ( just a little bit ) work from a person who's knowledgeable .
                          Thanks for the encouraging words. The next time, I will experiment exactly what you have done. I have already spoken to my mechanic. Will source an old bore from SVC and will do.

                          Originally posted by s1d View Post
                          can i have the boring fellows details ? location/address ?
                          and also the price breakdown of spares and labor..

                          btw.. prior to this rebuild which engine oil grade did you use ? after the rebuild i assume you will be running at least 20w40.
                          The shop name is Javid Engineering Works. The technician there is 'Gangu'. The shop is in Balanagar. Will give more details of exact location later.

                          And as for the oil grade, previously for the past 14k kms, I have used Sprinta 5000 FS 10w40 oil. 10w30 Honda Throttle FS for the last 1500 kms. Now I would use a 20w40 mineral oil for initial 300 kms and then will go for Shell Rimula r3x/r4 15w40.

                          Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                          Ravi uncle, My Zma is starting to drink oil. But it will be another year before i can go for a rebuild :P

                          I will test ride your bike once done
                          Noooooooooooooooooo!!! I will not give my bike to you.


                          Drinking oil is a very bad sign. You better rectify it before it does more damage to the engine.
                          Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 03-30-2013, 12:19 AM.
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                          • #13783
                            Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            Noooooooooooooooooo!!! I will not give my bike to you.


                            Drinking oil is a very bad sign. You better rectify it before it does more damage to the engine.
                            Am not asking your permission to ride your bike. Am informing you


                            The last time i drained the oil, only 300ml came out. Was using Mobil 1 FS and it ran abt 5k kms before draining. At times, when starting the bike for the 1st time of the day, it emmits lot of white smoke for a awhile and it gets back to normal in about 30-40 seconds. this has been happening for quiet a while now.

                            Its being used very rarely. Only 8-9k kms in the last one year and now even less coz of the duke. So i thought i'd rebuild the engine after few months.
                            07 HH Zma
                            11 Honda Aviator DLX
                            14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
                            16 Scooty Zest
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                            • #13784
                              Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                              Am not asking your permission to ride your bike. Am informing you
                              If you touch my bike, I will throw your Duke in Hussainsagar.

                              Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                              The last time i drained the oil, only 300ml came out. Was using Mobil 1 FS and it ran abt 5k kms before draining. At times, when starting the bike for the 1st time of the day, it emmits lot of white smoke for a awhile and it gets back to normal in about 30-40 seconds. this has been happening for quiet a while now.

                              Its being used very rarely. Only 8-9k kms in the last one year and now even less coz of the duke. So i thought i'd rebuild the engine after few months.
                              I hate you for leaving the poor baby like that. 300 ml is very less oil and if you run the bike, it causes extensive damage. Be careful. Internals of ZMA are very costly.
                              HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                              Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

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                              • #13785
                                Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                                If you touch my bike, I will throw your Duke in Hussainsagar.



                                I hate you for leaving the poor baby like that. 300 ml is very less oil and if you run the bike, it causes extensive damage. Be careful. Internals of ZMA are very costly.
                                The reason why am delaying it is, it will hardly run 200-500kms a month. My bro is using it only 8 days a month. So i thought i will rather change the engine oil or top it off at every 1500kms and then go for a rebuild whenever he starts to use it on regular basis.
                                07 HH Zma
                                11 Honda Aviator DLX
                                14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
                                16 Scooty Zest
                                11 CBR 250R

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