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  • #15271
    Re: Karizma/Karizma R

    Originally posted by Vijay1911 View Post
    Still having problem with by ZMA.

    The current Problem is The meter console gets reset to zero. And when bike's is running console flickers but dont get reset. This reset thing is happenening on using the self switch.

    One of the terminal(negative) of the my bike battery got a crack in eye part of the terminal. Then did a DIY by covering the terminal with 1mm(approx) aluminium. And then placint the Negative Wire on it. The Original Terminal is now is inside the aluminium and over that aluminium I have connected the Negtive wire connector. It worked well for few days without any kind of trouble.

    The battery is giving 13V on no load. Looks good to me. Its working fine. Had a short circuit problem in wire harness, but that's solved now.
    Battery wont be replaced said the AMARON Guy even if it was in the Warranty period. As its a physical damage, not manufacturer fault.

    Any suggestions? What problem might be?
    I think loose connections. Check the wiring with the help of a good mechanic. Sometimes, if the battery is getting discharged faster than it is getting charged, it creates that probelm. Current leakage due to open wiring also causes it i think. Mechanic should help you on this. Tell him specifically about wiring, or else they are very opportunistic to make money out of Zma owners.


    Cheers,

    Karthik
    2 > 4
    \m/

    1994 Suzuki Shogun (Sold)
    2003 HH CBZ (Sold)
    1994 Bullet Std 350 (sold)
    1994 Rx-100 (Sold)
    2010 HH Karizma (Sold)
    2012 KTM Duke 200 (Sold)
    2015 Unicorn 160

    Whew!

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    • #15272
      Re: Karizma/Karizma R

      [QUOTE=zma10;1001879]Yes, it is a good oil. Used it on my Zma without any adverse effects.

      Cheers,

      Karthik[/QUOTE

      Thanks bro.. I changed the oil myself today and the performance was too good.

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      • #15273
        Re: Karizma/Karizma R

        [QUOTE=Night_Shade;1001989]
        Originally posted by zma10 View Post
        Yes, it is a good oil. Used it on my Zma without any adverse effects.

        Cheers,

        Karthik[/QUOTE

        Thanks bro.. I changed the oil myself today and the performance was too good.

        Anytime.. Actually I used to use castrol (non synthetic) oil on my CBZ classic. Hence the reference. When i tried the latest one on zma, I was really happy.

        Cheers,

        Karthik
        2 > 4
        \m/

        1994 Suzuki Shogun (Sold)
        2003 HH CBZ (Sold)
        1994 Bullet Std 350 (sold)
        1994 Rx-100 (Sold)
        2010 HH Karizma (Sold)
        2012 KTM Duke 200 (Sold)
        2015 Unicorn 160

        Whew!

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        • #15274
          Re: Karizma/Karizma R

          [QUOTE=zma10;1002011]
          Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post


          Anytime.. Actually I used to use castrol (non synthetic) oil on my CBZ classic. Hence the reference. When i tried the latest one on zma, I was really happy.

          Cheers,

          Karthik
          I used the gold one.. it was bit pricey and the oil was like shining golden colour.. but now the bike is running superb.. silky smooth. Very soon going on a short trip of 500 kms

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          • #15275
            Re: Karizma/Karizma R

            [QUOTE=Night_Shade;1002041]
            Originally posted by zma10 View Post

            I used the gold one.. it was bit pricey and the oil was like shining golden colour.. but now the bike is running superb.. silky smooth. Very soon going on a short trip of 500 kms
            The golden bottle is FS I guess. That explains why everyone using it is ecstatic. Even one of my buddies had the same reaction. I'm ecstatic on my 7100 10W40 though... Its quite a smoothie too!


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            • #15276
              Re: Karizma/Karizma R

              Originally posted by zma10 View Post
              I think loose connections. Check the wiring with the help of a good mechanic. Sometimes, if the battery is getting discharged faster than it is getting charged, it creates that probelm. Current leakage due to open wiring also causes it i think. Mechanic should help you on this. Tell him specifically about wiring, or else they are very opportunistic to make money out of Zma owners.


              Cheers,

              Karthik
              thanks for the reply,

              Made the wire harness checked after solving the short circuit problem.
              This problem surface few days back.

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              • #15277
                Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                [QUOTE=pixantz;1002227]
                Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post

                The golden bottle is FS I guess. That explains why everyone using it is ecstatic. Even one of my buddies had the same reaction. I'm ecstatic on my 7100 10W40 though... Its quite a smoothie too!


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                Yes bro.. it was a golden bottle and its 15W40 its like 100 rs more than the normal ones in castrol

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                • #15278
                  Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                  [QUOTE=Night_Shade;1002041]
                  Originally posted by zma10 View Post

                  I used the gold one.. it was bit pricey and the oil was like shining golden colour.. but now the bike is running superb.. silky smooth. Very soon going on a short trip of 500 kms
                  Good to know. Ride safe and keep us all posted on your ride.

                  Cheers,

                  Karthik
                  2 > 4
                  \m/

                  1994 Suzuki Shogun (Sold)
                  2003 HH CBZ (Sold)
                  1994 Bullet Std 350 (sold)
                  1994 Rx-100 (Sold)
                  2010 HH Karizma (Sold)
                  2012 KTM Duke 200 (Sold)
                  2015 Unicorn 160

                  Whew!

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                  • #15279
                    Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    Is there any difference between 1st gen karizma and karizma r.
                    I own 1st gen karizma.I just came to know engine oil grade is different for these two.
                    Is there any difference on gear?

                    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s3
                    Last edited by Ishwor; 10-21-2013, 11:48 AM.

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                    • #15280
                      Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post
                      Probably yes mate.. cuz I had faced the same problem and finding 7.5 A fuse was a task for me..
                      Same here..found 15A, 20A but not 7.5A. Have made a jugaad out of the old 7.5A for now..will get a 10A instead in case 7.5A isn't available anywhere!
                      You can ride a Motorcycle any day of the month. ;)

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                      • #15281
                        Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        Originally posted by Ishwor View Post
                        Is there any difference between 1st gen karizma and karizma r.
                        I own 1st gen karizma.I just came to know engine oil grade is different for these two.
                        Is there any difference on gear?

                        Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s3
                        Naah. Roll on timings maybe different though as the later versions were tuned for mileage and not outright acceleration as first gen. Most of the newer gen owners still use the recommended grade for old gen since the engine is same.
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                        • #15282
                          Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by Ishwor View Post
                          Is there any difference between 1st gen karizma and karizma r.
                          I own 1st gen karizma.I just came to know engine oil grade is different for these two.
                          Is there any difference on gear?

                          Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s3
                          The first gen ZMA had aggressive Ignition Mapping and so were very quick....but the downside was less FE...so the ignition timing was made less aggressive and more FE is the result.
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                          • #15283
                            Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Originally posted by psr View Post
                            The first gen ZMA had aggressive Ignition Mapping and so were very quick....but the downside was less FE...so the ignition timing was made less aggressive and more FE is the result.
                            That means theres a difference in the CDI mappings? Could be. Actually this a very interesting yet rare subject. Primarily because only people who have ridden/owned both the bikes for a considerable time have the realisation that there is a very subtle but distinct difference in the way the old Zma and the 'R' behave and perform.
                            As you have said sir, the Ignition mapping appears to be one, and also I suspect that the cylinder heads are ported a bit differently. Thats just a guess though. I have ridden/owned both the bikes seperately for roughly almost 4 years each and strongly believe in this difference. Why, thats the reason I sold my R to go for a 2006 second hand Zma which I am riding to this day. I love the way the old one performs. Actually we have agroup of about 7 Zma riders and the two of us who had R's have changed to old Zma. I know this might sound crazy to all the newer R riders, but some will understand. No offence meant to anyone. The R is a smoothie and strong performer too


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                            • #15284
                              Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                              Thanks a lot for replies.
                              Anyway is it possible to install asfs engine ( piston and vulves) on my 1st gen zma.
                              And what about cdi?( just asking cuz i am happy with with aggressive mapping one )

                              Just heard zma had cam tensioner issue and it is sorted out on zma r.Is it true?

                              Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s3

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                              • #15285
                                Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                                Originally posted by Ishwor View Post
                                Thanks a lot for replies.
                                Anyway is it possible to install asfs engine ( piston and vulves) on my 1st gen zma.
                                And what about cdi?( just asking cuz i am happy with with aggressive mapping one )

                                Just heard zma had cam tensioner issue and it is sorted out on zma r.Is it true?

                                Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s3
                                If by asfs you mean the R piston and valves, then its not going to change anything. For sure. As for cdi, going by psr sirs theory, it just might. Depends what Honda had changed to alter ignition timings. Primarily it would be the cdi but could also include changes in the pickup-coil and or magneto assembly as its an active and critical part of the ignition process too and works in tandem with the cdi

                                Edit: the cam tensioner issue lied with the tensioner itself and not with the zma engine


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                                Last edited by pixantz; 10-22-2013, 11:09 AM.

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