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  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

    Originally posted by rcazador View Post
    Minor disaster, after serious cold start issues I was fiddling with the idling and the screw that controls it just fell off. Since then two hours of trying to fit it back on have been fruitless. The Screw itself is undamaged but it just doesn't seem to fit back in
    Originally posted by pixantz View Post
    You must have bent the tip. Even if the tip is bent by a hairs width, you'll have problems with the bike. You seem to have bent it more than a bit. The AFR screw is spring loaded, so it must have jumped out when you loosened it... At least now you should get professional help
    If it's the AFR screw that fell off then you might have lost the spring that should be there . See pic - the spring is of steel color . Click image for larger version

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    The idling screw is also spring loaded , but the spring can be seen since it is outside .

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    Pls don't mind the shape of the screw in the pic - it's from a damaged carb .
    Last edited by acs1207; 06-29-2013, 09:24 PM.
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    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

      Originally posted by AK3D View Post
      Not the AFR, the idle screw. It is also spring loaded. With a bit of patience, you'll be able to fit it on.
      Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
      If it's the AFR screw that fell off then you might have lost the spring that should be there . See pic - the spring is of steel color .


      The idling screw is also spring loaded , but the spring can be seen since it is outside .

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      Pls don't mind the shape of the screw in the pic - it's from a damaged carb .

      Yeah its idling screw. Depressing man, to mess it up myself. @AK3D, thanks man, it's the Sunday project, hopefully wont have to take it to the svc center.
      Last edited by rcazador; 06-29-2013, 10:54 PM.

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      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

        Originally posted by AK3D View Post
        Not the AFR, the idle screw. It is also spring loaded. With a bit of patience, you'll be able to fit it on.
        Oops....


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        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

          Tank & silencer painted and old stickers replaced with new R stickers. And also change 60/55 headlight blub to OSRAM nightbreaker 60/55 & parking light with LED SMD







          This sliver plastic panel had some scratches so pasted black vinyl sticker afterwards premium sports sticker




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          Last edited by NIGHTMARE; 06-29-2013, 11:33 PM.

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          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

            Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
            @Rajarshi, have you done rain ride with rear stock tyre? As you said, I could agree on few points however the stock tyre centre portion of is bald, so there's ain't water channeling and most likely to fishtail while breaking eventually. No theory but pure practical experience. Personally won't recommend stock for overall usage.

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            I have ridden a my ZMA a couple of times in the rain... but i have never been experimental in rain... i always kept myself in the safer side.... i rode my friends pulsar 150 rigorously...with the same MRF zapper tyre the pulsar tends to skid or fishtail frequently... which i experienced with my ZMA hardly a few times....i am not saying the stock tyres are the best ones; but its not much inferior so that a ZMA cant be ridden on it... ofcourse a premium tyre will always have an edge over the stock ones....what i told its just for sane riding conditions ...

            Originally posted by psr View Post

            The stock tires skid under heavy braking even on dry surface.....on wet surface, well you learn to ice skate on ZMA.
            yes.. with highspeed above 70kmph on any surface stock tyre doesn't give enough confidence on panicbreaking...i don't have too much of biking experience like you veterans; i always get amazed by reading all your great inputs into this forum .... i just shared my opinion with all my sane riding experience... it was never intended to impose incorrect information...

            Originally posted by AK3D View Post

            The tyre pressures are supposed to be 25/29 solo and 25/33 with pillion. Always decrease by 1 PSI if you're going on the highway since the pressure will increase due to the air heating up when going at speed continously.
            practically it is not feasible to hit the pump every-time you have a pillion .. and again change the air pressure to solo mode. thats why i keep it always 25/33 and hardly faced any issue with sane riding (its not like i always ride within 60kmph.. i go beyond 100kmph also.. but i increase it gradually..).. with the same air pressure i rode my ZMA at 125kmph on highway...dint find any hiccups ..
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            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

              Originally posted by pixantz View Post
              Ignition Coil- 305/-
              Spark Plug Cap- 65/-
              Please get genuine ones as these are critical components and as far as I've experienced you will never get the original feel of the bike if you go for cheap spares as far as Hero Honda and Honda are concerned. Dunno about other brands.


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              The Spark Plug cap and the ignition wire are available separately.....If the Ignition wire is faulty change only the wire and not the whole ignition coil with the wire.....You can get the Ignition wire from the Bike Spare parts shops, or you can also buy Old ambassador or Fiat's ignition wire , which is without resistance...Both the Ignition Coil and the Plug cap have screw like connection, so you can fix the new Ignition wire by pressing the wire into the connection and turning the wire clockwise ...this will thread the wire on to the connection firmly....
              For better performance, try and get the plug cap without resistor, since the ZMA/ZR plugs have built in resistor....I had sourced a Red colored plug cap without resistor, which is giving a slightly better acceleration...


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              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                Originally posted by psr View Post
                The Spark Plug cap and the ignition wire are available separately.....If the Ignition wire is faulty change only the wire and not the whole ignition coil with the wire.....You can get the Ignition wire from the Bike Spare parts shops, or you can also buy Old ambassador or Fiat's ignition wire , which is without resistance...Both the Ignition Coil and the Plug cap have screw like connection, so you can fix the new Ignition wire by pressing the wire into the connection and turning the wire clockwise ...this will thread the wire on to the connection firmly....
                For better performance, try and get the plug cap without resistor, since the ZMA/ZR plugs have built in resistor....I had sourced a Red colored plug cap without resistor, which is giving a slightly better acceleration...


                How do I check if the wire or coil is faulty?

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                • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                  Originally posted by sinnerz2000 View Post
                  How do I check if the wire or coil is faulty?
                  The Wire or Ignition Coil in a ZMA/ZMR had never been reported to be faulty....the wire is a straight through non resistive wire.. To check both the wire and the coil at the same time, disconnect the Spark plug cap from Ignition wire , and measure the Resistance from the center of Ignition wire to earth ie., body or negative of Battery.... The meter should show 9K~10 K Ohms..
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                  • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                    [MENTION=52772]AK3D[/MENTION]

                    I guess you'll need to experiment with 110 profile for your rear wheel. M45 which was so good and as you know in India no one like anything so good that even this Michelin rubber curbed by tyre lobbies saying there no Indian certification.
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                    • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      The Spark Plug cap and the ignition wire are available separately.....If the Ignition wire is faulty change only the wire and not the whole ignition coil with the wire.....You can get the Ignition wire from the Bike Spare parts shops, or you can also buy Old ambassador or Fiat's ignition wire , which is without resistance...Both the Ignition Coil and the Plug cap have screw like connection, so you can fix the new Ignition wire by pressing the wire into the connection and turning the wire clockwise ...this will thread the wire on to the connection firmly....
                      For better performance, try and get the plug cap without resistor, since the ZMA/ZR plugs have built in resistor....I had sourced a Red colored plug cap without resistor, which is giving a slightly better acceleration...

                      psr sir , we do learn new things every day . Some doubts here . Are there ignition wires ( guess they are the ones called spark plug cable ) coming in 2 types - with resistance and without resistance ? If yes , what type is normally used in ZMA ?
                      Also , generally , why is the resistor used in the plug cap ?


                      Off topic , can someone identify this moped ? No name is seen on the body panels . There's an "M" logo on the tank . My friend got it a couple of days back . He plans to make it ride able .
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                      • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                        [MENTION=39423]acs1207[/MENTION], just post this moped pic in powertrain muthu sir thread, might give some history.

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                        • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                          Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                          psr sir , we do learn new things every day . Some doubts here . Are there ignition wires ( guess they are the ones called spark plug cable ) coming in 2 types - with resistance and without resistance ? If yes , what type is normally used in ZMA ?
                          Also , generally , why is the resistor used in the plug cap ?
                          There are two types of Ignition wire,Plug Cap, and Spark Plugs......With and Without resistor....
                          In the days of Carburetor engine, interference from spark energy called "RFI"(Radio Frequency Interference) did not affect anything, except the on board radio, which would have a clicking sound in tune with sparks...Later on when " MPFi" came on with SMD(Surface mount Device) and Microprocessor in circuit, this RFI used to interfere with the Ignition and Injector timing..This is because the devices are sensitive to RFI...
                          So to reduce the interference from spark energy, the designers and manufacturers decide to reduce the intensity of spark energy by reducing it's current...to do this they introduced a Resistor of 4~5 K ohms in series with the High voltage..this had the desired effect and so it became an industry standard....some manufactures introduced the resistor in the Ignition wire by using resistive wire, and some through resistor in Plug cap....In the mean time a large number of Vehicles used CDI ignition system and this would give high energy sparks of short duration...This in effect started pitting the Spark Plug electrodes...So the Plug manufacturers started using 4~5 K Ohms resistor inside the plug to protect the electrodes against pitting.....So we now have a resistor in the wire, a resistor in the plug cap, and a resistor in the Spark plug..All this combined to reduce the spark energy ....some car manufacturers got wise to this and used normal plugs, with resistive Wires....but some manufacturer continued to use a combination of the three.....
                          Initially engines came with resistor cable only, and later on when the Spark Plug manufacturer PHASED OUT non resistor plugs, the resistor plugs were used as an alternate...
                          So in ZMA/ZMR there is a resistive Plug cap and a resistor in Plug...but the Ignition Cable is NON RESISTANCE type....
                          So it is obvious that there are two resistor in series with spark in ZMA/ZMR and reduces the energy more than required....It IS ENOUGH TO HAVE ONE RESISTOR IN CIRCUIT, and more than one reduces the spark energy drastically....
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                          • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                            Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                            psr sir , we do learn new things every day . Some doubts here . Are there ignition wires ( guess they are the ones called spark plug cable ) coming in 2 types - with resistance and without resistance ? If yes , what type is normally used in ZMA ?
                            Also , generally , why is the resistor used in the plug cap ?


                            Off topic , can someone identify this moped ? No name is seen on the body panels . There's an "M" logo on the tank . My friend got it a couple of days back . He plans to make it ride able .
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                            My friend had a similar one, it was called 'MOFA' maybe the 'M' stands for that.

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                            • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                              Did a short trip to Alamparai fort with collegmates(230kms). There were 8 bikes, P150, 3 P220's, FZ16, P200NS, KTM Duke 200 and my ZMA. I led the group most of the time. Later during a break one of the P220 guy was telling how it was difficult to catch up when I accelerated hard from 80 upto 120kmph. Anyways after 120 zma runs out of breath but until there its quick. I realized this today after being able to directly compare these bikes. And needless to say most of them had to live through vibrations except me since we were doing 90-100 most of the time and some of them were asking me to slow down. By the way its been 1300kms since Rimula and looks like its still doing a good job. Will see the colour and update soon.

                              I do have small niggle with the gearbox though. First gear doesn't engage easily(especially in stop and go traffic). The neutral light doesn't glow sometimes when the gear lever is in neutral position. But with a little extra touch the light glows. Looks like a problem at the contact point of the switch.
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                              • Re: Karizma/Karizma R

                                Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post
                                By the way its been 1300kms since Rimula and looks like its still doing a good job. Will see the colour and update soon.

                                I do have small niggle with the gearbox though. First gear doesn't engage easily(especially in stop and go traffic). The neutral light doesn't glow sometimes when the gear lever is in neutral position. But with a little extra touch the light glows. Looks like a problem at the contact point of the switch.
                                Please change Rimula R4 oil after it had done 1,500~1,700 Kms since it is Mineral oil....Regarding difficulty in changing gears, check for clutch free play and adjust to 5mm at the lever edge with the yoke.....the Neutral switch plate does give problem now and then..correcting it requires splitting the crank case...
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