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**Night_Shade** · 10-06-2013, 12:51 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by g K View Post

Haha! I was about to ask you the same, thinking you must have changed since you've done 44K

Well Ive the following in my list as of now- Ceat Zoom, Ceat Vertigo Sport, Michelin Sirac Street and one from MRF too (forgot the model).

For Sirac Street Ive read more bad reviews than good, so better stay away.
Ceat Zoom- AK3D recently got them, F and R both. I too checked them out today, liked the thread pattern.
Ceat Vertigo- No major reviews found.

EDIT: MRF one is METEOR.

BTW, I am looking for dual-purpose tyres. And maybe get a 110/90 if available.

I am also looking for same tyre.. would like to go for 110/90 but there are not many options.. about AK3D, are u talking about those tyres he got for 2700 Rs.(F + R)

**g K** · 10-06-2013, 12:56 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post

I am also looking for same tyre.. would like to go for 110/90 but there are not many options.. about AK3D, are u talking about those tyres he got for 2700 Rs.(F + R)

Yeah those only. Price quote I got for them (Zoom) is 2050 for Rear and 1650 for Front.
In 110/90-18 infact there are no options!!

**Divya Sharan** · 10-06-2013, 09:37 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

^^^ MRF Zapper Q is 110/90-18. Its a TT tire. But I believe you guys have to bend the linkage rod or something like that to fit any 110 mm rear. Can someone validate it?

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**Vishakh** · 10-06-2013, 01:15 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Planning to change disc pads to Ninja 250 r ones. They cost a little above the OEM pads and also there is apache rtr pads even though straight fit and far more cheaper, but aren't crisp enough. I searched the threads and found it to be a straight fit. Hope its worth it

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**g K** · 10-06-2013, 02:22 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

^^^ MRF Zapper Q is 110/90-18. Its a TT tire. But I believe you guys have to bend the linkage rod or something like that to fit any 110 mm rear. Can someone validate it?

Sent from my stupid android phone using some tapatalk client.

Its not dual purpose I believe.

**psr** · 10-06-2013, 03:54 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Planning to change disc pads to Ninja 250 r ones. They cost a little above the OEM pads and also there is apache rtr pads even though straight fit and far more cheaper, but aren't crisp enough. I searched the threads and found it to be a straight fit. Hope its worth it

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The Ninja 250 front disc pad is Sintered Metal and has good braking,......Shriram Alpine have started manufacturing disc pads which seems to be Good....it is only 115/- and superior to the RTR .

**Vishakh** · 10-06-2013, 05:07 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by psr View Post

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The Ninja 250 front disc pad is Sintered Metal and has good braking,......Shriram Alpine have started manufacturing disc pads which seems to be Good....it is only 115/- and superior to the RTR .

Only 115 rs?

if its better than RTR pads then its definitely worth a try. Will check if available here at Thiruvananthapuram or Kollam.

**sinnerz2000** · 10-06-2013, 05:10 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Only 115 rs?

if its better than RTR pads then its definitely worth a try. Will check if available here at Thiruvananthapuram or Kollam.

But braking is not solely Dependant on pads right? The calliper and disk plate is also very important

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**Vishakh** · 10-06-2013, 05:15 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by sinnerz2000 View Post

But braking is not solely Dependant on pads right? The calliper and disk plate is also very important

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Yes the brake bite varies, with type of calliper and rotor used. But changing the rotor and calliper is a costly affair and changing to better quality pads is the easy solution even atleast in a slight bit

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**vijayvenkatesans** · 10-06-2013, 05:35 PM

Re: Oil drain nut replacement

Originally posted by ankit.traveller View Post

Completed Run in period of 1000kms today, first service done at 565kms..Few observations-
1) Gear shifts (up and down both) are on harder side, sometimes it is difficult to find neutral.Its creating pain on left leg
2) I think mech altered AFR ratio in first service, idle RPM in hot engine is 1200,I think he set it to leaner side as bike is giving good mielage,I am also feeling heat of engine on my right leg in traffic condition.
3) During deaccelerating from 4000RPM to 2000RPM at this point "phat phat, misfiring type sound" from exhaust is comming.
4) Till now I have done 2-3 quick burst upto 80km/hr..but after 700kms.
5) Not feeling too much of difference in initial pickup compared to my old UNicorn..due to new engine or leaner AFR setting?

Please give your suggestions guys and can I go for long rides now?

I'm also about to complete the run in. Odo reader ~950 with first service at 350.
1) I also found it difficult to find neutral until around 50km back. Now it just requires a delicate push.
2) Mine is at 3.5 turns and hot idling at 1500. I have the opposite problem of your. I get an FE of a shade over 27. (Though 5/7 days it just runs twice in bursts of 3km. Yeah, to and from my office)
4) I started going to 5k rpm whenever possible since 500km. And after 700 started going at 6k also. 3-4 times to 6.8k.

**sinnerz2000** · 10-06-2013, 07:00 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by psr View Post

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The Ninja 250 front disc pad is Sintered Metal and has good braking,......Shriram Alpine have started manufacturing disc pads which seems to be Good....it is only 115/- and superior to the RTR .

Are those available in Bangalore?

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**ankit.traveller** · 10-06-2013, 08:06 PM

Re: Oil drain nut replacement

Originally posted by vijayvenkatesans View Post

I'm also about to complete the run in. Odo reader ~950 with first service at 350.
1) I also found it difficult to find neutral until around 50km back. Now it just requires a delicate push.
2) Mine is at 3.5 turns and hot idling at 1500. I have the opposite problem of your. I get an FE of a shade over 27. (Though 5/7 days it just runs twice in bursts of 3km. Yeah, to and from my office)
4) I started going to 5k rpm whenever possible since 500km. And after 700 started going at 6k also. 3-4 times to 6.8k.

Hey bro,congrats for your steed and nice to see another ZMA in run in period.
Dont worry about FE as it is factory setting for new engine,mine was tampered by mech to impress me with good FE which he should'nt.
I went after 700Kms upto 5KRPM@80Km/hr for few times but not continously,I change gears now usually at 4K-4.5K RPM.
Please give more updates regularly.

**AK3D** · 10-06-2013, 08:12 PM

Re: Oil drain nut replacement

Originally posted by g K View Post

For Sirac Street Ive read more bad reviews than good, so better stay away.
Ceat Zoom- AK3D recently got them, F and R both. I too checked them out today, liked the thread pattern.
Ceat Vertigo- No major reviews found.
EDIT: MRF one is METEOR.
BTW, I am looking for dual-purpose tyres. And maybe get a 110/90 if available.

Get a dual purpose if you're going to Leh or face similar roads. In any case the Ceat Gripp is a great dual purpose tyre.

Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post

I am also looking for same tyre.. would like to go for 110/90 but there are not many options.. about AK3D, are u talking about those tyres he got for 2700 Rs.(F + R)

Originally posted by g K View Post

Yeah those only. Price quote I got for them (Zoom) is 2050 for Rear and 1650 for Front.
In 110/90-18 infact there are no options!!

Did you get these quotes with tubes or without? As I mentioned earlier, I got both tyres without tubes (using my old MRF tube since it didn't have a puncture in it yet). Yep, there's no 110 option for the 18" rim in Ceat.

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

^^^ MRF Zapper Q is 110/90-18. Its a TT tire. But I believe you guys have to bend the linkage rod or something like that to fit any 110 mm rear. Can someone validate it?

I think the linkage rod will need to be bent with the wider 110 section tyres.

A short overview of the Ceat Zoom.
Keep in mind that I've not done a long ride in this, I only managed to do a 30km highway stint, apart from the usual city day-to-day stuff.

Stability : No instability found, no wobbles even at high speeds above 80 on the highway.

Grip : The grip level is MUCH better than the MRF. Once I had the tyres installed, I noticed odd 'slipping' behaviour initially. I attributed it to these being very new tyres. After 15-20 kms, that stopped, and these were tracking very well. These can lean better for some reason, and I did not feel the rear slipping out like the Zappers.
I tried some deliberate riding in gravel (broken road where those tiny grit pieces and sand make for a slippery surface). I had skidding moments with the zapper in these conditions before, but not with the Ceat zoom. They kept their line and did not try to do a fishtail like my earlier tyres.

Braking : Not tested at high speeds. Tested in the wet, they did not skid. I tested with just the rear brake, and they did skid, but not too much. Unless one encounters a dry-wet sudden transition, it's hard to say how they will perform then. At normal speeds, the braking is improved, and the bike comes to a halt just a bit earlier with more control.

Other Observations : I'm not sure if it's just my opinion or the condition of the road nowadays, but these tyres seem a bit more 'vibey'. While they don't wobble, and maintain their line, I think there is an increased amount of feedback from the road/vibrations. Not to an annoying extent, but you can feel it while at medium speeds. Once I get a smooth highway patch to test, I'll check and see if this is the tyre or the road condition.
I've been able to take sharper turns, and have not gone out of control as the tyres have maintained their grip.

Overall, it seems a good city-highway tyre, but if you're going offroading, better go for the Gripp instead.

Pictures of my bike after a wash - and wax, and the rear tyre.

**g K** · 10-06-2013, 08:50 PM

Re: Oil drain nut replacement

Originally posted by AK3D View Post

Get a dual purpose if you're going to Leh or face similar roads. In any case the Ceat Gripp is a great dual purpose tyre.

Did you get these quotes with tubes or without? As I mentioned earlier, I got both tyres without tubes (using my old MRF tube since it didn't have a puncture in it yet). Yep, there's no 110 option for the 18" rim in Ceat.

I think the linkage rod will need to be bent with the wider 110 section tyres.

A short overview of the Ceat Zoom.

Pictures of my bike after a wash - and wax, and the rear tyre.

Thanks for the detailed info bro.
Yes I got the quote WITH TUBE. Without tube it was 150-200 less. Anyways you got an awesome deal.

And yes I am looking for dual-purpose only. Thanks for reminding me of Gripp. I too have heard good about it.
Are there any options for 110/90 from any brand that is dual purpose too? And I dont think any change is reqd to fit a 110/90 profile tyre, its reqd for 120/90.

PS: Your bike looks cool, you too have fitted dazzler's RVMs?

**Night_Shade** · 10-06-2013, 09:04 PM

Re: Oil drain nut replacement

Originally posted by AK3D View Post

Get a dual purpose if you're going to Leh or face similar roads. In any case the Ceat Gripp is a great dual purpose tyre.

Did you get these quotes with tubes or without? As I mentioned earlier, I got both tyres without tubes (using my old MRF tube since it didn't have a puncture in it yet). Yep, there's no 110 option for the 18" rim in Ceat.

I think the linkage rod will need to be bent with the wider 110 section tyres.

A short overview of the Ceat Zoom.
Keep in mind that I've not done a long ride in this, I only managed to do a 30km highway stint, apart from the usual city day-to-day stuff.

Stability : No instability found, no wobbles even at high speeds above 80 on the highway.

Grip : The grip level is MUCH better than the MRF. Once I had the tyres installed, I noticed odd 'slipping' behaviour initially. I attributed it to these being very new tyres. After 15-20 kms, that stopped, and these were tracking very well. These can lean better for some reason, and I did not feel the rear slipping out like the Zappers.
I tried some deliberate riding in gravel (broken road where those tiny grit pieces and sand make for a slippery surface). I had skidding moments with the zapper in these conditions before, but not with the Ceat zoom. They kept their line and did not try to do a fishtail like my earlier tyres.

Braking : Not tested at high speeds. Tested in the wet, they did not skid. I tested with just the rear brake, and they did skid, but not too much. Unless one encounters a dry-wet sudden transition, it's hard to say how they will perform then. At normal speeds, the braking is improved, and the bike comes to a halt just a bit earlier with more control.

Other Observations : I'm not sure if it's just my opinion or the condition of the road nowadays, but these tyres seem a bit more 'vibey'. While they don't wobble, and maintain their line, I think there is an increased amount of feedback from the road/vibrations. Not to an annoying extent, but you can feel it while at medium speeds. Once I get a smooth highway patch to test, I'll check and see if this is the tyre or the road condition.
I've been able to take sharper turns, and have not gone out of control as the tyres have maintained their grip.

Overall, it seems a good city-highway tyre, but if you're going offroading, better go for the Gripp instead.

Pictures of my bike after a wash - and wax, and the rear tyre.
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Bike is looking supercool with those tyres bro... I guess its the 100 you are using for rear right? What do you say abt PSDs?

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