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**Divya Sharan** · 10-06-2013, 10:53 PM

Re: Oil drain nut replacement

Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post

Bike is looking supercool with those tyres bro... I guess its the 100 you are using for rear right? What do you say abt PSDs?

PSD is good, but doesn't last much. You can feel the loss of grip post 10-12k kms and its almost similar to Zapper Y post 15k. Plus, its puncture prone.

**robin3989** · 10-07-2013, 02:06 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by g K View Post

For Sirac Street Ive read more bad reviews than good, so better stay away.

Bought a Sirac Street as it was michelin some 9 months back and haven't started using it. Worried because of many bad feedbacks. In a state of confusion either to use or sell it incase I have one to buy it. I live in chennai and it barely rains, assure if I can replace the stock with Sirac and will not be disappointed fish tailing frequently.

**g K** · 10-07-2013, 02:36 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by robin3989 View Post

Bought a Sirac Street as it was michelin some 9 months back and haven't started using it. Worried because of many bad feedbacks. In a state of confusion either to use or sell it incase I have one to buy it. I live in chennai and it barely rains, assure if I can replace the stock with Sirac and will not be disappointed fish tailing frequently.

Buddy I am myself asking about different tyres from different sources. I dont think I would be the right person to advise you on whether you should keep the tyre or sell it off.

On another note, if you have come across bad reviews and now have negative impression of the tyre in your mind, better to sell it off because with that negative impression you will never have confidence in the tyre which ultimately will affect your riding.

Hope that helps!

**robin3989** · 10-07-2013, 03:44 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by g K View Post

On another note, if you have come across bad reviews and now have negative impression of the tyre in your mind, better to sell it off because with that negative impression you will never have confidence in the tyre which ultimately will affect your riding.

Understood. Even if I sell it for the sake that I had spent 2000rs, and it's a big amount. Ultimately the person who buys it, shall someday spell swear words. Don't want to play with this. Will carefully use it for sometime. Hope it doesn't end my life.

**worrisomebear** · 10-07-2013, 04:01 PM

Re: Oil drain nut replacement

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

PSD is good, but doesn't last much. You can feel the loss of grip post 10-12k kms and its almost similar to Zapper Y post 15k. Plus, its puncture prone.

True, it wont last as long as michellin m45, 18k is good enough from Pirelli.. but the grip is amazing

**g K** · 10-07-2013, 04:08 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by robin3989 View Post

Understood. Even if I sell it for the sake that I had spent 2000rs, and it's a big amount. Ultimately the person who buys it, shall someday spell swear words. Don't want to play with this. Will carefully use it for sometime. Hope it doesn't end my life.

Its not THAT BAD either buddy. Ive read from experienced users that for only off-roading it is actually a good tyre. If you sell, look for someone who needs it for that purpose only.
Or you can always exchange it with the tyre dealer and yours is not even used.

**ravi@17bhp** · 10-07-2013, 04:23 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

I don't know why many are against the Sirac Street. Its a decent tire and we have been using since years on many bikes. Most of them who complained about skidding in wet are ZMR owners, and I guess the sharp rear disc on ZMR could be one of the problem for the skidding. Except for the skidding under braking in wet conditions, this tire is excellent and far better than the stock tire. Don't expect grip from any tire in wet conditions under braking. When riding in wet conditions, I always avoid situations where I would have to brake hard. There should be a sync between both rear and front tires. The stock front tire and the Sirac Street at rear may not be good combo. Sirac street at both front and back would be an ideal set.

I am using M45 at the back and its almost over. I would soon be replacing this with Sirac Street and check for myself if this tire is really skidding as members claim.

NOTE: These are my conclusions based the experience I heard from other users around me.

**Divya Sharan** · 10-07-2013, 05:39 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

I don't know why many are against the Sirac Street. Its a decent tire and we have been using since years on many bikes.

Maybe bcoz the newer Siracs are no longer made my Michelin. There are made by TVS!

**sinnerz2000** · 10-07-2013, 05:50 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Maybe bcoz the newer Siracs are no longer made my Michelin. There are made by TVS!

Even if its made by tvs it will be made under michelins standards and material quality, tvs will not use the same quality as their own tyres.

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**ravi@17bhp** · 10-07-2013, 05:58 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Maybe bcoz the newer Siracs are no longer made my Michelin. There are made by TVS!

Even recently, two months back, Sanjay used Sirac Street on his ZMR for his Leh trip. We tried braking in wet (not hard braking/panic braking; panic braking or hard braking would result in skid with any tire in wet) and it behaved good. On the other hand, Rakesh and Shabbar who used Sirac Street at the rear on their ZMRs complained skidding even with slight touch of rear brake, and in both these cases the front tire is stock, whereas Sanjay changed both front and rear to Sirac. It logical to guess that the stock front tire and the Sirac street at the back not doing well (only a guess).

Also, on ZMR, I feel the rear tire is locking in wet because of sharp bite of the rear disc. On Karizma, where the rear brake is virtually non-existent, there is very least chance of locking of the tire, so I feel Sirac should behave well on ZMA than ZMR.

**AK3D** · 10-07-2013, 06:09 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by g K View Post

PS: Your bike looks cool, you too have fitted dazzler's RVMs?

Yes - slightly wider view at the edge. Originals are better though.

Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post

Bike is looking supercool with those tyres bro... I guess its the 100 you are using for rear right? What do you say abt PSDs?

Yes, 100/90 . No idea about the PSD's as I've not used them. As DivyaSharan pointed out though, they are supposed to be very good.

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

I don't know why many are against the Sirac Street. Its a decent tire and we have been using since years on many bikes. Most of them who complained about skidding in wet are ZMR owners, and I guess the sharp rear disc on ZMR could be one of the problem for the skidding. Except for the skidding under braking in wet conditions, this tire is excellent and far better than the stock tire. Don't expect grip from any tire in wet conditions under braking. When riding in wet conditions, I always avoid situations where I would have to brake hard. There should be a sync between both rear and front tires. The stock front tire and the Sirac Street at rear may not be good combo. Sirac street at both front and back would be an ideal set.

I am using M45 at the back and its almost over. I would soon be replacing this with Sirac Street and check for myself if this tire is really skidding as members claim.

NOTE: These are my conclusions based the experience I heard from other users around me.

Ravi, I'm not against the Sirac street, but after hearing so many skid stories about those, I felt it was better to avoid them, especially since they are manufactured by TVS with a very hard compound. Anyway, I've chosen my medicine, the Ceat Zoom and so far, so good. I'll only get to know them better after a long ride.

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Maybe bcoz the newer Siracs are no longer made my Michelin. There are made by TVS!

Yes!

Originally posted by sinnerz2000 View Post

Even if its made by tvs it will be made under michelins standards and material quality, tvs will not use the same quality as their own tyres. Sent from my F8 using Tapatalk 4

They offer a 5 year warranty on these, it means they want them to last a fair while.

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Even recently, two months back, Sanjay used Sirac Street on his ZMR for his Leh trip. We tried braking in wet (not hard braking/panic braking; panic braking or hard braking would result in skid with any tire in wet) and it behaved good. On the other hand, Rakesh and Shabbar who used Sirac Street at the rear on their ZMRs complained skidding even with slight touch of rear brake, and in both these cases the front tire is stock, whereas Sanjay changed both front and rear to Sirac. It logical to guess that the stock front tire and the Sirac street at the back not doing well (only a guess).

Also, on ZMR, I feel the rear tire is locking in wet because of sharp bite of the rear disc. On Karizma, where the rear brake is virtually non-existent, there is very least chance of locking of the tire, so I feel Sirac should behave well on ZMA than ZMR.

Interesting, that. But it did skid? I wonder how other tyres would behave under the same conditions.
In my experience though, the rear brakes have a tendency to lock up, not the fronts. I'm using ASK pads for the rear, so not sure if those contribute to it. My braking is mostly 80% front and 20% rear, and a lot of rear braking only in slow traffic.

**rreneav1987** · 10-07-2013, 06:12 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Even recently, two months back, Sanjay used Sirac Street on his ZMR for his Leh trip. We tried braking in wet (not hard braking/panic braking; panic braking or hard braking would result in skid with any tire in wet) and it behaved good. On the other hand, Rakesh and Shabbar who used Sirac Street at the rear on their ZMRs complained skidding even with slight touch of rear brake, and in both these cases the front tire is stock, whereas Sanjay changed both front and rear to Sirac. It logical to guess that the stock front tire and the Sirac street at the back not doing well (only a guess).

Also, on ZMR, I feel the rear tire is locking in wet because of sharp bite of the rear disc. On Karizma, where the rear brake is virtually non-existent, there is very least chance of locking of the tire, so I feel Sirac should behave well on ZMA than ZMR.

I use front and rear Sirac Street and the front tire is doing great and I am quite happy with it.. but the rear tire isn't upto the mark if you ask me.. even if the tire gets wet a little, applying rear brakes is dangerous (out of experience)

keeping the pressure near 30-32 reduces the fish tail.. but again.. in case of sudden braking.. you can expect fish tails and you can't do anything about it..

we can't be riding at 20kmph or 40kmph all the time, right??

**harisubss** · 10-07-2013, 07:01 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

I don't know why many are against the Sirac Street. Its a decent tire and we have been using since years on many bikes. Most of them who complained about skidding in wet are ZMR owners, and I guess the sharp rear disc on ZMR could be one of the problem for the skidding. Except for the skidding under braking in wet conditions, this tire is excellent and far better than the stock tire. Don't expect grip from any tire in wet conditions under braking. When riding in wet conditions, I always avoid situations where I would have to brake hard. There should be a sync between both rear and front tires. The stock front tire and the Sirac Street at rear may not be good combo. Sirac street at both front and back would be an ideal set.

I am using M45 at the back and its almost over. I would soon be replacing this with Sirac Street and check for myself if this tire is really skidding as members claim.

NOTE: These are my conclusions based the experience I heard from other users around me.

I have a Karizma R, around 6 years old & 50K + old.
I am using Sirac Street at the front and rear, been using them for the last 6 months. Got them from from a shop in whitefield. I think it was Tyre empire.
I am happy with the front tyres, there have been a couple of panic braking situations where it did not go out of line. Note that this was when it was absolutely dry.

I am not at all happy with the tyres when it is wet and slushy. The rear hardly holds on and everything feels vague.
Those who stay in Marathahalli in bangalore might have experienced the nightmarish Tulsi Theatre road during the rains. The road was moderate to heavily slushy. I felt almost zero confidence and had to gingerly ride around and I could see that bikes with stock tyres were doing better than me.

I dont know if I am expecting too much from this tyre but frankly speaking, the wet grip of the sirac street disappoints me & hardly inspires any confidence even on tarred roads.

**Divya Sharan** · 10-07-2013, 08:28 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Guys using Android phones. Some stale news. Sygic India is free now. Its an offline navigation system. I have downloaded maps for all states and it works well. A good option for tourers who don't have 2G/3G internet.

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**ankit.traveller** · 10-07-2013, 08:39 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

I had sirac street for 30k kms in my Unicorn, toured alot on this tyre in rains,offroad,crators etc etc but this tyre never let me down, this tyre is not made for prg scrapping and hard braking, its a hard compound tyre with soft side walls, its purpose is to avoid punctures and damage to tube in offroad conditions and tours.Contact patch in straight line is hard compund thatswhy it slightly skids in wet conditions. " kutch pane ke liye kuch khona padta hai" . I never had single puncture in its 30k life and it was still going strong.

To avoid skidding in Sirac street set a little more free play in rear brake pedal and keep PSI at 33, that is what I did and I never skided on this tyre.

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