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**rreneav1987** · 06-14-2013, 10:17 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

The heavy duty ones on the ZMA are the best, ive been using mine without chain guard for over 2yrs now, with the same chain.

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+1.. I agree with your statement.. even I was planning to go for O-Ring chain of pulsar.. but the mechanic in the Bajaj service center himself said don't change it to Pulsar Chain.. life and durability of the ZMR/ZMA chain are much better... you can use the Karizma's chain without the chain guard.. but do take care of the chain by lubricating it.. maybe once every 500kms would do..

**rcazador** · 06-15-2013, 12:37 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Meguiar's is good, diamond cut was my fav, the shine lasted for quite a while.

Also do consider throwing out the engine cowl and get a crash guard, and dont forget to double taping at front and using rubber spacers at rear.

SAE90 gear oil is the beat chain lubricant for the ZMA, lubing the chain once every 2k would be fine.

While washing the bike dont use a spray directly using a hose, wipe soap wipe would do.

Change brake pads at 10k to be on the safe side, along with SP and AF.

As a rule of thumb the AFR is best when set at 2~2.5 TURNS. But personally 4 Turns does the magic for me, but then again it may not work well for you, due the altitude difference.

Its high time we set up a FAQ post for the ZMA, so it can help new and prospective owners, by saving them the trouble of going through the whole thread.

Cheers.

Thanks man, Definitely considering a crash guard, debating a RX100 style guard or a unicorn crash guard. Either way every service shop and even some mechanics are convinced it won't work so trying to find an agreeable mech. Found Meguiar's on amazon and yep it had some pretty good reviews, I should be receiving it soon. AFR seems to be ok at least its not a rich mix(no popping sound) so for now I'm not fiddling with it.

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

The heavy duty ones on the ZMA are the best, ive been using mine without chain guard for over 2yrs now, with the same chain.

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I saw your earlier post about how heavy the chain guard is so eventually that and the undercowl will have to go, to save weight.

In the meantime I'm beginning to understand what you meant when you said its hard to go slow on this bike

P.S. I think there's a new (free) Beta of Taptalk version 4 on the Google play store, looks way better than The current version.

**rreneav1987** · 06-15-2013, 12:58 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rcazador View Post

Thanks man, Definitely considering a crash guard, debating a RX100 style guard or a unicorn crash guard. Either way every service shop and even some mechanics are convinced it won't work so trying to find an agreeable mech. Found Meguiar's on amazon and yep it had some pretty good reviews, I should be receiving it soon. AFR seems to be ok at least its not a rich mix(no popping sound) so for now I'm not fiddling with it.

I saw your earlier post about how heavy the chain guard is so eventually that and the undercowl will have to go, to save weight.

In the meantime I'm beginning to understand what you meant when you said its hard to go slow on this bike

P.S. I think there's a new (free) Beta of Taptalk version 4 on the Google play store, looks way better than The current version.

How heavy is the chain guard??

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**worrisomebear** · 06-15-2013, 04:23 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

How heavy is the chain guard??

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not much heavy, the other alternative is to use the eliminator or avenger chain guard on zma/zmr..even fz one fits

**ashwinprakas** · 06-15-2013, 05:19 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rcazador View Post

Thanks man, Definitely considering a crash guard, debating a RX100 style guard or a unicorn crash guard. Either way every service shop and even some mechanics are convinced it won't work so trying to find an agreeable mech. Found Meguiar's on amazon and yep it had some pretty good reviews, I should be receiving it soon. AFR seems to be ok at least its not a rich mix(no popping sound) so for now I'm not fiddling with it.

I saw your earlier post about how heavy the chain guard is so eventually that and the undercowl will have to go, to save weight.

In the meantime I'm beginning to understand what you meant when you said its hard to go slow on this bike

P.S. I think there's a new (free) Beta of Taptalk version 4 on the Google play store, looks way better than The current version.

The RX model is used by Sriram sir, personally I doubt its reliablility in a fall, cause its fixed using a U clamp and the bike weighs 150kgs, so either theres chance of the crash guard shifting, else theres a risk of the chassis suffering damage, cause the shock will be directly transferred to one point.

None of my phones are permanent, I just borrow em for a while and return it soon after, hence the reason for the outdated tapatalk.

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**ashwinprakas** · 06-15-2013, 05:21 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

How heavy is the chain guard??

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Quite a bit.

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**ashwinprakas** · 06-15-2013, 05:23 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post

not much heavy, the other alternative is to use the eliminator or avenger chain guard on zma/zmr..even fz one fits

Do you have any pics? Cause the Eliminator chain guard isnt being supplied anymore, and of the FZ's is a direct fit then Im thinking of stocking it.

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**rcazador** · 06-15-2013, 07:53 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

How heavy is the chain guard??

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Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post

not much heavy, the other alternative is to use the eliminator or avenger chain guard on zma/zmr..even fz one fits

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Quite a bit.

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That was the old post I was referring to. In the original post the weight was estimated at 1.5-2 kg. Probably doesn't seem like much but when saving weight on a vehicle every gram counts (at least that's what Top Gear seems to believe). Especially since the chain is proven reliable the chain guard seems redundant.

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**rreneav1987** · 06-15-2013, 09:17 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Quite a bit.

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My God.. if I save 2kgs on the ZMR.. Then it will definitely increase the power atleast a bit.. right?? Reducing the weight from 159 to 157 kgs.. that would make a noticeable difference.. what about the saree guard?? Though the saree guard protects during a fall.. just wanna know..

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**psr** · 06-15-2013, 10:21 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Why is weight reduction of ZMA being explored ?
Most people forget that the weight of the Rider can be controlled much more easily than removing parts from the bike....
Try riding a Splendor at 80 Kmph in cross wind, and ZMA...you will appreciate the difference quickly.

**rreneav1987** · 06-15-2013, 10:35 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by psr View Post

Why is weight reduction of ZMA being explored ?
Most people forget that the weight of the Rider can be controlled much more easily than removing parts from the bike....
Try riding a Splendor at 80 Kmph in cross wind, and ZMA...you will appreciate the difference quickly.

Am 73kgs sir.. reduced 5kgs in last 4 months

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**rcazador** · 06-15-2013, 01:00 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by psr View Post

Why is weight reduction of ZMA being explored ?
Most people forget that the weight of the Rider can be controlled much more easily than removing parts from the bike....
Try riding a Splendor at 80 Kmph in cross wind, and ZMA...you will appreciate the difference quickly.

Yep weight has its advantages.
It was the earlier discussion about how durable the chain is, that made me think that if you wish to reduce weight you could drop the chain guard, since it isnt really necessary. If for instance the rider is pretty heavy, or cares for FE and handling or is making a track day bike or is jobless on a Sunday. But for the highway weight has its uses in stability.

**psr** · 06-15-2013, 06:38 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Am 73kgs sir.. reduced 5kgs in last 4 months

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For the past 40+ years my weight is 62 Kgs + or - 2 Kgs.....If you want to reduce weight and still be fit, try Yoga and medium weights....

**rreneav1987** · 06-15-2013, 06:54 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by psr View Post

For the past 40+ years my weight is 62 Kgs + or - 2 Kgs.....If you want to reduce weight and still be fit, try Yoga and medium weights....

I will look horrible if I lose another 10 kgs

my target weight is 69 kgs

I hit the gym and lift weight to keep my body fit and tight.. if i lose more weight.. i will lose the muscles i have and I don't want to

worked hard to get to this level without taking any protein shakes or tablets..

I am gonna do anything to my bike anyways.. I love her the way she is and her performance is always mind blowing to me

**psr** · 06-15-2013, 07:04 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

I will look horrible if I lose another 10 kgs

my target weight is 69 kgs

I hit the gym and lift weight to keep my body fit and tight.. if i lose more weight.. i will lose the muscles i have and I don't want to

worked hard to get to this level without taking any protein shakes or tablets..

I am gonna do anything to my bike anyways.. I love her the way she is and her performance is always mind blowing to me

Good....keep it that way...don't lift heavy weights and build muscle which will increase your weight, and later in life give you health problems.

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