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**Shabeer Khan** · 06-27-2013, 09:04 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

The stock rear tires are really good if you only intend to do up to 45 km/hour and even at that speed try an emergency breaking and you will get to realize how good they are. When leaning over the tires perform good but those threads ends without touching the center and thus leaves a plain hard as smooth as whistle area for the straight line braking. Back when I had the CBZ legend I remember having a heart attack when an idiot decided to cross the road with his bajaj with suicide intentions and ended up in my flight path. My tire skid through tarmac something like 5 meters before showing any sign of grip. As far as aesthetics are concerned it doesnt look good either its almost like Arnold with a skinny pair of legs.

**anmol_1990** · 06-27-2013, 11:23 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by Shabeer Khan View Post

The stock rear tires are really good if you only intend to do up to 45 km/hour

This is Exaggeration. it's not that bad. I usually ride 80+ on highways and had situations of emergency braking and no problem whatsoever.

**Shabeer Khan** · 06-27-2013, 11:35 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Then its good for you, good luck. For me I need some good luck and a good tire.

**ashwinprakas** · 06-28-2013, 08:54 AM

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Speaking about MRF's, i remember a friend from the DIY thread mentioning that the bike skids even in main stand with Zappers on.

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**pixantz** · 06-28-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Post

This is Exaggeration. it's not that bad. I usually ride 80+ on highways and had situations of emergency braking and no problem whatsoever.

+1 to that. On my Zma-R even I braked at 90+ kmph in muddy water on a flyover, the tyre left grip just a bit( had the Zappers at that time) but zma never actually fishtails. Even if it skids on hard braking, it does so in a straight line. Actually the tendency to use the front disc harder in panic situations should be consciously tried to overcome by zma riders 'cause this throws more of the weight in front and makes the rear lighter(when riding solo) helping the tyre to lose grip more easily. Also, I've avoided the OE brake liner since almost 4 years now as bite is not good enough. Instead I used Activa original liner and presently using one from a company called 'Doshi'. Excellent bite. And oh, my Dunlop Geo Cruiser makes it virtually impossible for the rear to skid!

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**stephen sundar sundar** · 06-28-2013, 10:42 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Thank u pix and one more query again my fuse(under the seat) gone third time can anyone suggest me the reason for this

Originally posted by pixantz View Post

Cylinder block-kit should be somewhere around 3100/- bucks approx. labour could be anywhere from 800-1200 bucks depending on where you get it done. Along with the block-kit make sure your valves, valve-seating, rocker and camshaft are in good condition. Do running in procedure for 2000km. You're then set for Isle Of Man TT!

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**phanikar** · 06-28-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by stephen sundar sundar View Post

Thank u pix and one more query again my fuse(under the seat) gone third time can anyone suggest me the reason for this

Have you made any changes to the electricals, as in HID or any ?

**pixantz** · 06-28-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by stephen sundar sundar View Post

Thank u pix and one more query again my fuse(under the seat) gone third time can anyone suggest me the reason for this

First you need to check any after-market electricals you might have installed like horn, hid's, relay circuits, led strips, etc. Thats the first possible culprits. Further your stock electricals. Then it can be the small bulbs like the one inside the tail lamp for the number plate. Detailed inspection needed or else electrical glitches can be very elusive.

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**stephen sundar sundar** · 06-28-2013, 04:07 PM

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I had put only windtone horn two years back.

for the past two years it was working good but this fuse problem im facing this month only.

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Originally posted by phanikar View Post

Have you made any changes to the electricals, as in HID or any ?

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I had put roots windtone horn nothing else and it was working good for past two years

actually i replaced tail lamp bulb two months back will that aslo cause problem like this ?

Originally posted by pixantz View Post

First you need to check any after-market electricals you might have installed like horn, hid's, relay circuits, led strips, etc. Thats the first possible culprits. Further your stock electricals. Then it can be the small bulbs like the one inside the tail lamp for the number plate. Detailed inspection needed or else electrical glitches can be very elusive.

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**Rajarshi** · 06-28-2013, 07:49 PM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

Originally posted by rcazador View Post

With such good instructions I should be fine

After trying to find the elusive M45 I found a dealer selling Geo Cruisers tubeless for the rear. I decided to go with this based on previous reviews on this thread.

For the front they're recommending a TT in case of pot holes at speed. Either that or a tubeless from TVS that comes stock with the Honda Shine. Confused which to choose.

One last thing the dealer only has Dunlop Rib for the front TT and says Mystery isn't a great tyre. Is that true?

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ZMA stock tyres are pretty good... fishtail or skid doesnot depend only on tyre quality.. weight of bike and tyre air pressure are some important factors.... use tyre pressure in front 25 and rear 33 psi as mentioned on top of the tank of ZMA.... though you will find in the pumps that majority will use 26F and 36R... a little less air pressure will keep the rubber stick to the ground because the friction area will be more on 25f/33R than 26f/36R... you might need to change the tyres 4/5K km earliar than others.. but it is safe...

**SriramEfunds** · 06-28-2013, 08:11 PM

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[MENTION=43175]Rajarshi[/MENTION], have you done rain ride with rear stock tyre? As you said, I could agree on few points however the stock tyre centre portion of is bald, so there's ain't water channeling and most likely to fishtail while breaking eventually. No theory but pure practical experience. Personally won't recommend stock for overall usage.

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**sinnerz2000** · 06-28-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

[MENTION=43175]Rajarshi[/MENTION], have you done rain ride with rear stock tyre? As you said, I could agree on few points however the stock tyre centre portion of is bald, so there's ain't water channeling and most likely to fishtail while breaking eventually. No theory but pure practical experience. Personally won't recommend stock for overall usage.

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I've found mrf meteor to be good on all conditions

**psr** · 06-28-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by stephen sundar sundar View Post

I had put only windtone horn two years back.

for the past two years it was working good but this fuse problem im facing this month only.

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I had put roots windtone horn nothing else and it was working good for past two years

actually i replaced tail lamp bulb two months back will that aslo cause problem like this ?

Wind tone horns go short after some time and causes fuse to blow , and may even cause wiring harness damage...so avoid it...

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

@Rajarshi, have you done rain ride with rear stock tyre? As you said, I could agree on few points however the stock tyre centre portion of is bald, so there's ain't water channeling and most likely to fishtail while breaking eventually. No theory but pure practical experience. Personally won't recommend stock for overall usage.

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The stock tires skid under heavy braking even on dry surface.....on wet surface, well you learn to ice skate on ZMA.

**ashwinprakas** · 06-29-2013, 10:54 AM

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Its clearly evident that Hero has their game face on. The above is a pic of the new outlet started at Kundara, Kollam. Specifically for selling spares. That makes 2 Hero spare out lets in a 25km radius.

**ravi@17bhp** · 06-29-2013, 11:34 AM

Re: Karizma/Karizma R

The stock tyres on ZMA are good as long as you just ride the bike sane, even in city or cruising on highway. When you try to explore the handling abilities of the bike and push it, then stock tyres are not good enough.

The Michelin M45 rear tyre is the best for the Karizma. It has lots of grip; unfortunately, its discontinued now.

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