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**DASCO** · 12-24-2009, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

Makes no sense to bring in the R125. I tried the bike during my recent trip to U.K. Its a really good bike. However, it has a highly strung engine (personally I love the revy engine) i.e. make little power in the low rpm band, it really starts making power only are 7000 rpm. Also the ergonomics are quite a bit more radical than the R15. After the ride I really understood why Yamaha didn't choose to bring the R125 and instead selected to develope a new 150 c.c. bike.

With the general perception over here is that the R15 has power stacked in the upper mid range and people keep complaining about how little power is available at low rpm, then the R125 would be totally unacceptable in our market. The fact is that any 125 would need to sell in volumes to make it worthwile for Yamaha to bring it to that market. It is due to the tier licensing norms of U.K. that such 125 c.c. bikes are popular out there.

some sense...atlast

**darkknight** · 12-24-2009, 06:47 PM

@killerkp:a 130/80/17 profile fits on std. R15 alloy easily.
There is no need of swingarm modification for this tyre even with a new chain sprocket set.
This is an obvious case of misinformation

**Shanz** · 12-24-2009, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

Makes no sense to bring in the R125. I tried the bike during my recent trip to U.K. Its a really good bike. However, it has a highly strung engine (personally I love the revy engine) i.e. make little power in the low rpm band, it really starts making power only are 7000 rpm. Also the ergonomics are quite a bit more radical than the R15. After the ride I really understood why Yamaha didn't choose to bring the R125 and instead selected to develope a new 150 c.c. bike.

With the general perception over here is that the R15 has power stacked in the upper mid range and people keep complaining about how little power is available at low rpm, then the R125 would be totally unacceptable in our market. The fact is that any 125 would need to sell in volumes to make it worthwile for Yamaha to bring it to that market. It is due to the tier licensing norms of U.K. that such 125 c.c. bikes are popular out there.

Look at it from my point of view..
Reducing the price from almost 2.30 lakhs to 80 thousand buck's is simply impossible.
Thats why even I seriously doubt the launch of 125 in India!!
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**Shanz** · 12-24-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post

spend sometime on the forum dude, you have summed up the R125 perfectly
and i really fail to understand that why do guys complain about low power at lower revs, no sports bike makes power below 6k

Because we Indian never ever rode any desi Superbike or Superbike Replica!
We had been given 220, RD350, Karizma, RE and all these bikes have enuf torque and pulling power in every gear and through out the whole rpm band.
So we actually never knew the soul characterstic of any Supersports.
Now when we have Supersports and we compare it with already available bike's we find the torque less, so we complain.
It will take time to understand the characterstic and behaviour of a Supersports, because not all of us are that lucky to go to U.K. or U.S. and ride the hell outta these bikes.

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**abhimanyu31** · 12-25-2009, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Shanz View Post

Look at it from my point of view..
Reducing the price from almost 2.30 lakhs to 80 thousand buck's is simply impossible.
Thats why even I seriously doubt the launch of 125 in India!!
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Ever wondered why it is so expensive a bike? No exotic materials have been use/ nor is it an extraordinary performer. All said and done, other than looks, it has nothing more (in terms of performance) compared to the R15.

It is the tier licensing norms! Imagine that you were a new bike rider, in the U.S. you could get a learning license and buy any bike of any capacity, infact most people start out with a 600. In the U.K. you cannot get anything above 125 c.c. Hence, a market has been created for exotic 125 c.c.s, where people who start out by buying the max c.c. that they are allowed. Also the taxation part is quite high over there.

**Shanz** · 12-25-2009, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

Ever wondered why it is so expensive a bike? No exotic materials have been use/ nor is it an extraordinary performer. All said and done, other than looks, it has nothing more (in terms of performance) compared to the R15.

It is the tier licensing norms! Imagine that you were a new bike rider, in the U.S. you could get a learning license and buy any bike of any capacity, infact most people start out with a 600. In the U.K. you cannot get anything above 125 c.c. Hence, a market has been created for exotic 125 c.c.s, where people who start out by buying the max c.c. that they are allowed. Also the taxation part is quite high over there.

But still paying huge dollars just for look's is un-understandable thing!!
Btw..if am given choice in between 125cc's then I would love to pickup Aprillia Rs125 rather than better looking Yamaha R125.
There's no use of a thing which will take you from point A to Point B in a simplistic commuter fashion and will turn some heads. Instead covering the same distance in sportier way and turning lesser heads is my Pik.
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**surbhit** · 12-25-2009, 01:06 PM

Got the chain sprocket set replaced today. Cost of parts:-

Front sprocket -> 120Rs
Rear sprocket -> 270Rs
Chain -> 2112Rs

**rennycornelius** · 12-25-2009, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by surbhit View Post

Got the chain sprocket set replaced today. Cost of parts:-

Front sprocket -> 120Rs
Rear sprocket -> 270Rs
Chain -> 2112Rs

how many kms it lasted???(the original one)

**surbhit** · 12-25-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

how many kms it lasted???(the original one)

23k Kms. The sprockets were fine but the chain was damaged, it had become tight in some places and loose in other.

**rennycornelius** · 12-25-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by surbhit View Post

23k Kms. The sprockets were fine but the chain was damaged, it had become tight in some places and loose in other.

23k is the right time...
actually i saw that 12345 kms in ur display pic and i thought may be you cganged it at that kms

**abhimanyu31** · 12-25-2009, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Shanz View Post

But still paying huge dollars just for look's is un-understandable thing!!
Btw..if am given choice in between 125cc's then I would love to pickup Aprillia Rs125 rather than better looking Yamaha R125.
There's no use of a thing which will take you from point A to Point B in a simplistic commuter fashion and will turn some heads. Instead covering the same distance in sportier way and turning lesser heads is my Pik.
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Two very different machines meant for two very different types of riders. The Aprilia RS 125 can make 33 bhp in unrestricted form where as the R125 is restricted to 14 bhp. In U.K. you can ride the Aprilia RS 125 (unrestricted) provided you have passed the Category A Test for Standard Motorcycle License whereby you are restricted to 33 bhp for 2 years (after which you can ride any size of bike). The R125 is meant for people who have passed the Category A1 Test for Light Motorcycle License which restricts power and size to 14.7 bhp and 125 cc. I will once again repeat what I said earlier, the tier licensing norms of U.K. have created the market for such bikes.

**ashes** · 12-25-2009, 11:53 PM

@all

guys help me out please...i have lost most of my tools and now am looking for a nice basic tool kit for my bike.

can someone recommend me any tool kit?

P.S-the tool kit should have tools to do jobs of normal service like changing the oil filter,etc.

**abhimanyu31** · 12-26-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by ashes View Post

@all

guys help me out please...i have lost most of my tools and now am looking for a nice basic tool kit for my bike.

can someone recommend me any tool kit?

P.S-the tool kit should have tools to do jobs of normal service like changing the oil filter,etc.

You may try the Yamaha Service center. However, if you want to put a basic tool kit togeather I would recommend the following;

1. A screwdriver (both phillips and regular)
2. A set of spanners (check the size of the nuts on the wheel assembly.
3. Spark plug spanner.
4. Plier set (flat and pointed)
5. WD40 Can.

Thats about it and you are ready to go.

However, I personally have the following added in my kit (which I don't carry on the bike):

1. Impact Driver.
2. Socket Set.
3. Allen and hex drivers.
4. A multi wrench (an extremely useful tool)

**ashes** · 12-26-2009, 04:42 PM

oka i will note this down but don't you know a specific tool kit which already has everything and i can just go to a store and buy it off the shelf?...thanx

**abhimanyu31** · 12-26-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by ashes View Post

oka i will note this down but don't you know a specific tool kit which already has everything and i can just go to a store and buy it off the shelf?...thanx

There are no specific tool kits (there will be sets of spanners or bits available). Atleast not that I know of. Once in a while some bike shops abroad do put something togeather on their own and sell it for a special price.

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