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**me is rossi** · 09-13-2009, 10:40 PM

hey ppl...any idea if;
Higher the size of the main jet more the petrol flow??
ex. in p-200 MJ size is 110
or

lower the jet size higher the petrol flow??

but also,
zma's main jet is a 125!

ex. p-180 MJ size 117!

CJ · 09-13-2009, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post

I'm suffering from an electrical problem, the bike's hi beam comes whenever i start the bike even with the switch being in the "off" position. Any ideas why?

Are the headlights on everytime you start the bike ?? or they are on always ?? If the latter is the problem then the RHS switch has given up...i suffered the same problem sometime back and got it changed under warranty otherwise it costs around 800/-rs

**EL LOCO DIABLO** · 09-14-2009, 03:13 PM

^^ Umm they are on all the time after i start the bike, and not again i just spent nearly 2k replacing the whole starter motor for the bike, and it now needs this and a new set of tyres, looks like i might have to find a job to keep paying my bike for repairs

CJ · 09-14-2009, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post

^^ Umm they are on all the time after i start the bike, and not again i just spent nearly 2k replacing the whole starter motor for the bike, and it now needs this and a new set of tyres, looks like i might have to find a job to keep paying my bike for repairs

You must be having warranty ?? Don't you ?? Get it changed under it..

**harshit.d** · 09-14-2009, 06:43 PM

Hi guys my experience with my P200 ended on a bitter note..
I got my P200 sometime in october 2008. It's really a good one but the only and the biggest and the major flaw in that bike is its rear brake!!!
Man its like it doesnt exists there... No effect on stoppage or take it as very little effect.!
And this thing really cost me big time! Apart from that the bike is simply too good. I owned it for some 6-7 months and then sold it off due to the above mentioned reason...
Does any one else has also faced problem with its rear braking?
I've faced the same problem with the P220 as well when i test rode it before buying...
So just because of its braking i would've never recommended that to anyone though now its off the market but P220 is still there and have no idea about its rear brake performance as haven't had any chance till now to test ride it...

**threat2myself1** · 09-14-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by harshit.d View Post

Hi guys my experience with my P200 ended on a bitter note..
I got my P200 sometime october 2009. It's really a good one but the only and the biggest and the major flaw in that bike is its rear brake!!!
Man its like it doesnt exists there... No effect on stoppage or take it as very little effect.!
And this thing really cost me big time! Apart from that the bike is simply too good. I owned it for some 6-7 months and then sold it off due to the above mentioned reason...
Does any one else has also faced problem with its rear braking?
I've faced the same problem with the P220 as well when i test rode it before buying...
So just because of its braking i would've never recommended that to anyone though now its off the market but P220 is still there and have no idea about its rear brake performance as haven't had any chance till now to test ride it...

yeah most of has this problem...ive been riding the 200 for a year n half ,i pretty much got used to it!!

**abhichotu.abhi** · 09-14-2009, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by harshit.d View Post

Hi guys my experience with my P200 ended on a bitter note..
I got my P200 sometime october 2009. It's really a good one but the only and the biggest and the major flaw in that bike is its rear brake!!!
Man its like it doesnt exists there... No effect on stoppage or take it as very little effect.!
And this thing really cost me big time! Apart from that the bike is simply too good. I owned it for some 6-7 months and then sold it off due to the above mentioned reason...
Does any one else has also faced problem with its rear braking?
I've faced the same problem with the P220 as well when i test rode it before buying...
So just because of its braking i would've never recommended that to anyone though now its off the market but P220 is still there and have no idea about its rear brake performance as haven't had any chance till now to test ride it...

seems you have travelled through time machine october 2009

**guardian_in** · 09-14-2009, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by harshit.d View Post

Hi guys my experience with my P200 ended on a bitter note..
I got my P200 sometime october 2009. It's really a good one but the only and the biggest and the major flaw in that bike is its rear brake!!!
Man its like it doesnt exists there... No effect on stoppage or take it as very little effect.!
And this thing really cost me big time! Apart from that the bike is simply too good. I owned it for some 6-7 months and then sold it off due to the above mentioned reason...
Does any one else has also faced problem with its rear braking?
I've faced the same problem with the P220 as well when i test rode it before buying...
So just because of its braking i would've never recommended that to anyone though now its off the market but P220 is still there and have no idea about its rear brake performance as haven't had any chance till now to test ride it...

So just because of that, you sold it?!! Just upgrade to disc brakes! And before you say, why should I spend extra, anyway you went for a loss by selling it, you will never get the original price by selling anything for that matter.

**EL LOCO DIABLO** · 09-14-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by harshit.d View Post

Hi guys my experience with my P200 ended on a bitter note..
I got my P200 sometime october 2009. It's really a good one but the only and the biggest and the major flaw in that bike is its rear brake!!!
Man its like it doesnt exists there... No effect on stoppage or take it as very little effect.!
And this thing really cost me big time! Apart from that the bike is simply too good. I owned it for some 6-7 months and then sold it off due to the above mentioned reason...
Does any one else has also faced problem with its rear braking?
I've faced the same problem with the P220 as well when i test rode it before buying...
So just because of its braking i would've never recommended that to anyone though now its off the market but P220 is still there and have no idea about its rear brake performance as haven't had any chance till now to test ride it...

I cannot believe you and couple others here take the rear brake of the P200 as an issue to be rectified, yes the brake is a little soft but that is the whole point of it, the rear brake is, as i've and numerous others have repeated will feel weak if you bias it more than it's necessary amount, your rear should contribute to no less than 25% of your braking bias between the brakes. In other words you have been using your rear way too much while braking, the front is where you should concentrate with your braking, and this applies for every other bike. You cannot control the rear tyres with the brakes as much as you can with your front, that's why they always have bigger brakes up front, and with a heavy bike like the 200 if you slam the rear it WILL fishtail trying to buck you out of the seat, believe me i've tried. After all engineers think whole lot more than we can imagine, because they are building a bike for millions of people not custom-making it for each and every one

**guardian_in** · 09-14-2009, 11:22 PM

Another problem is, lot of people still have the mindset that disc brakes are too sharp and dangerous. When, the real reason is, they do not know how to handle them. One guy at a traffic light in heavy rain asked me, how come your bike does not skid when you brake in the rain!! To which I replied, I know how to ride.

AFAIK the CBZ was the 1st bike in India to offer disc brakes, but Hero Honda also offered a model with drum brakes in front for this reason only. And a lot of people opted for the drum brake model.

Problem is, people get used to one thing, and they want it to stay like that. I bet, if bikes today came with the option of drum brakes in front, lots of people will opt for that.

CJ · 09-14-2009, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by harshit.d View Post

Hi guys my experience with my P200 ended on a bitter note..
I got my P200 sometime october 2009. It's really a good one but the only and the biggest and the major flaw in that bike is its rear brake!!!
Man its like it doesnt exists there... No effect on stoppage or take it as very little effect.!
And this thing really cost me big time! Apart from that the bike is simply too good. I owned it for some 6-7 months and then sold it off due to the above mentioned reason...
Does any one else has also faced problem with its rear braking?
I've faced the same problem with the P220 as well when i test rode it before buying...
So just because of its braking i would've never recommended that to anyone though now its off the market but P220 is still there and have no idea about its rear brake performance as haven't had any chance till now to test ride it...

I had got used to the front disc of 200..yup i admit that the rear drum is quite useless after 40-50 speed but still 200 is front-biased bike so it doesn't make a lot of difference .. and the decision you took only selling the bike only for a rear brake doesn't make sense practically and financially atleast to me !!

I own a 220 DTS-i too and rear disc is pretty good.... No problems AT ALL!

Originally posted by guardian_in View Post

Another problem is, lot of people still have the mindset that disc brakes are too sharp and dangerous. When, the real reason is, they do not know how to handle them. One guy at a traffic light in heavy rain asked me, how come your bike does not skid when you brake in the rain!! To which I replied, I know how to ride.

AFAIK the CBZ was the 1st bike in India to offer disc brakes, but Hero Honda also offered a model with drum brakes in front for this reason only. And a lot of people opted for the drum brake model.

Problem is, people get used to one thing, and they want it to stay like that. I bet, if bikes today came with the option of drum brakes in front, lots of people will opt for that.

Even i have few frndz who still think that "disc brake main bike skid hoti hain yaar" "Disc-o-phobia" which can be called

...can't help it... some of them opted of Glamour drum model coz they think that Disc brakes are of no use and bad..! its better to stop discussing with them rather than screaming everytime that Disc is better

**thaker1985** · 09-15-2009, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by harshit.d View Post

Hi guys my experience with my P200 ended on a bitter note..
I got my P200 sometime october 2009. It's really a good one but the only and the biggest and the major flaw in that bike is its rear brake!!!
Man its like it doesnt exists there... No effect on stoppage or take it as very little effect.!
And this thing really cost me big time! Apart from that the bike is simply too good. I owned it for some 6-7 months and then sold it off due to the above mentioned reason...
Does any one else has also faced problem with its rear braking?
I've faced the same problem with the P220 as well when i test rode it before buying...
So just because of its braking i would've never recommended that to anyone though now its off the market but P220 is still there and have no idea about its rear brake performance as haven't had any chance till now to test ride it...

I have had one major crash (broken hand/bruised palms, legs, cost of repair to the bike - 5000 /- INR), and another minor one (scratches the brand new front fairing again

), in the last three months for the exact same reason. I had to slam the Discs, and hence the accidents. The rear brake on the P200 is literally non-existant, and I've learnt it the hard way. I am seriously contemplating getting a rear disc, coz I cannot afford to break anymore bones, or spend any more money on repairing the bike

Dont hit me for this, but I was a NOOB with disc brakes

its only now that I have learnt the correct usage of the front disc, however It would help if we had better rear brakes on the 200.

**guardian_in** · 09-15-2009, 02:15 AM

Don't worry, no one will hit you for that! A lot of people do find the braking power adequate, and some don't. No harm in that, there is always the option of a rear disc brake. But it is wrong to completely undermine the bike just for that like some people do. Nothing is perfect in this world.

**harshit.d** · 09-15-2009, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post

I cannot believe you and couple others here take the rear brake of the P200 as an issue to be rectified, yes the brake is a little soft but that is the whole point of it, the rear brake is, as i've and numerous others have repeated will feel weak if you bias it more than it's necessary amount, your rear should contribute to no less than 25% of your braking bias between the brakes. In other words you have been using your rear way too much while braking, the front is where you should concentrate with your braking, and this applies for every other bike. You cannot control the rear tyres with the brakes as much as you can with your front, that's why they always have bigger brakes up front, and with a heavy bike like the 200 if you slam the rear it WILL fishtail trying to buck you out of the seat, believe me i've tried. After all engineers think whole lot more than we can imagine, because they are building a bike for millions of people not custom-making it for each and every one

Its not much of an issue while the roads are smooth and clean. But the problem arises to a new level when you are riding on a loose surface. Not all may be traveling on such terrain or even if traveling might not have experienced that. But if you try stopping your bike on loose surface using just the front disc then there are full chances of front tyre locking an causing a skid of the rear tyre and that's precisely what happened with me. I was at a speed roughly between 40-50 and there was a car ahead of me and it applied brakes all of a sudden and in that situation stopping 200 on just rear brakes is really not possible...!
My left elbow all wrecked up and that's why my parents didnt let me keep that one. Even though i didnt wanted to sell it but had to

**harshit.d** · 09-15-2009, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by thaker1985 View Post

I have had one major crash (broken hand/bruised palms, legs, cost of repair to the bike - 5000 /- INR), and another minor one (scratches the brand new front fairing again

), in the last three months for the exact same reason. I had to slam the Discs, and hence the accidents. The rear brake on the P200 is literally non-existant, and I've learnt it the hard way. I am seriously contemplating getting a rear disc, coz I cannot afford to break anymore bones, or spend any more money on repairing the bike

Dont hit me for this, but I was a NOOB with disc brakes

its only now that I have learnt the correct usage of the front disc, however It would help if we had better rear brakes on the 200.

I've never had any issue in stopping the bike on smooth/clear roads. I've got it down from 120 to 0 in no time with no problems at all with proper pumping of disc.
But on loose its an altogether different ball game and that's where 200 has hard time due to its rear drums.

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