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  • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    check tyre pressure.
    check chain slackness/tightness- should not be too loose or too tight.
    check if tyres are free to rotate/check if brakes are too tight.
    The tyre pressure,chain and brakes are perfect.

    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    check spark plug colour, if its white or greyish white. it means engine running too lean. if that is the case change carb setting. remember to make it rich you have to unscrew it and to make it lean you have to tighten it. specially in summer it is best to keep it little bit on rich side to prevent overheating. ideally ur spark plug colour should be brownish, but not black.
    check if there is some air leakage from hose pipe that connects air filter box to carb. sometimes that can cause ur bike to run lean by sucking additional air from a leak. this can be identified by sound of engine, if it produces little bit like a free flow exhaust, remember little bit.
    check oil level, is it decreasing fast? advice-even if not it is better to fill 1.1-1.2 litres of oil instead of 1.0 litre if you have a habit of riding fast or if you ride continuously for more than 30 mins or so, coz pulsar engines have a tendency to heat up more and consume some oil. but do not put more than 1.2 litres of oil otherwise oil seals may rupture.
    if nothing works, replace reed switch which is located on carb, costs around 100 rupees.
    still have problem check carb, open it and clean it. also check if carb piston and diaphram is ok. but if this is the problem you should be experiencing flat spots in power delivery, where the piston gets stuck for a while.
    keep us informed.
    I will update after checking spark plugs and the hose pipe.

    I agree that pulsar heats up quickly but the heat generated is actually more in recent days unlike how it used to be earlier. I don't ride more than 10kms at a stretch. Engine oil filled is 1Ltr and will keep this thing in mind on next oil change. And no its not decreasing fast, no change in oil level.

    Thanks for the detailed reply!

    Originally posted by rpmboy View Post
    As Princi has pointed out most possible reasons related to the problems ,the carb may be the suspect in this issue . I hope you have gone with mineral oil only cause I hate synthetic's as I do also hate branded petrol like Speed,97 Octane , they just bring the knocking devil's back in P150's .....
    Yes I used mineral oil only and the oil spill is there below engine.. I should see after cleaning all those mess

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    • @ Prabhat : hmmmmm...pls do update




      Originally posted by Wrathchild View Post
      Hello A/all I have been on this forum for sometime now.I have posted a few posts but not that active.I own a pulsar 150-ug3 2007 model.My bike has clocked 40,000 kms.I have never had major issues with my bike what i am concerned about it is minor niggles which has not been solved.Ok the problem with my bike is related to the handle since 2009 i have had cone set jobs done like 8 times with different mechanics i used to get a sound when i applied the brakes or when i checked it on potholes or speed breakers..the sound nowadays is gone but the steering is stiff sometimes on the left side and sometimes on the right.I also experience stiffness or hardness on the handle bar and my wrist moves a bit on concrete roads {the throttle side right wrist}The handle does not move freely like it used too when i bought a brand new bike i have spent around 500 everytime for the cone set up and I have also tried welding the T stem twice have not been successful.Can someone please help?I have no other problem with my bike its in excellent condition.I have changed the tyres,spark plugs,swing arm bush,throttle cable,clutch cable,carb air screw,fork oil from time to time,diaphragm,disc pads etc..I also would like to know what is the right amount of engine oil to be replaced?the mechanics here do 1100ml and sometimes 1200..they say its not 1 litre for UG3 pulsars..i also would like to know what amount of fork oil is to be used i think its 150 ml?but most of them use 160 to 175 ml here.
      Thanks!!any suggestions would be of immense help

      buddy , dont think more abt the suspension , some tik-tak sound when the suspension is in pressed condition , is ok - ok .Too much you try to listen something you will hear ' the thing only ' , its an Indian bike and it is acceptable ...not to worry much .

      But all said , as you have shared " I have also tried welding the T stem twice have not been successful " , this implies that :-
      1.accidental repair of parts
      2.a mis-aligned fixed part will worn out every other moving (ball bearings) parts .

      Solution will be : change the whole T-stem and also check for fork play . I am not sure abt the precise ml's of fork oil but I hav seen atleast 160ml is enough appx . The peace of mind is always ' priceless ' .
      Try Greasing the present cone-set and the moving joints in T-Stem .

      Also check for strengths of springs in the fork , nuts in handle , nut in centre joining handle & forks ,find for any wear n tear signs requiring any new life , again may be....

      For oil , its mentioned in the Owner's Manual & on also mentioned engine case beside the filling spot .. no confusion or depending on any mechanic...stick to book simple . My bike is 7+ yrs old ,and I keep an oil change interval of 1500-2000kms were in 2500-3000 kms is maximum and I use 1lt oil as mentioned in manual , all mineral . Best is Servo 20W40 ,most of the Oil brands just do the branding , the crude supplier is Servo from IOCL .



      I hope this time , all your problems are solved .
      Last edited by rpmboy; 03-23-2012, 11:37 AM.
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      • ty

        Originally posted by rpmboy View Post
        @ Prabhat : hmmmmm...pls do update







        buddy , dont think more abt the suspension , some tik-tak sound when the suspension is in pressed condition , is ok - ok .Too much you try to listen something you will hear ' the thing only ' , its an Indian bike and it is acceptable ...not to worry much .

        But all said , as you have shared " I have also tried welding the T stem twice have not been successful " , this implies that :-
        1.accidental repair of parts
        2.a mis-aligned fixed part will worn out every other moving (ball bearings) parts .

        Solution will be : change the whole T-stem and also check for fork play . I am not sure abt the precise ml's of fork oil but I hav seen atleast 160ml is enough appx . The peace of mind is always ' priceless ' .
        Try Greasing the present cone-set and the moving joints in T-Stem .

        Also check for strengths of springs in the fork , nuts in handle , nut in centre joining handle & forks ,find for any wear n tear signs requiring any new life , again may be....

        For oil , its mentioned in the Owner's Manual & on also mentioned engine case beside the filling spot .. no confusion or depending on any mechanic...stick to book simple . My bike is 7+ yrs old ,and I keep an oil change interval of 1500-2000kms were in 2500-3000 kms is maximum and I use 1lt oil as mentioned in manual , all mineral . Best is Servo 20W40 ,most of the Oil brands just do the branding , the crude supplier is Servo from IOCL .



        I hope this time , all your problems are solved .
        Thanks bro I will try that ..I have never noticed the oil amount indicator in the engine case..Yes I also change the oil at around 1600 to 2100 kms that is not a problem..Regarding the cone the mechanic had told me that he would grease it but then told me to get a new cone set i will try to check everything now..the problem that i have no is the steering is not free .{not about the sounds} and at night its much easier than in the day time.It is a bit stiff i will try to do what you said and get back to you..
        Thank you!

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        • @rpm boy

          Ok and the T stem was welded because the cone wasn't stiff it was easily going in.And the mechanics used their brains lol and maybe messed it up I didnt even know what a T stem was like an year ago.They told me when fixing the cone that the cone should not go in easily in the T stem.

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          • Hi, First of all apologies for the delay as I got time today only to take pics. Here I posted the pics of both the spark plugs and the engine oil level. Is my bike running lean or rich? :S

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            • @prabhakar

              The oil level looks perfect to me!!.

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              • Originally posted by Wrathchild View Post
                The oil level looks perfect to me!!.
                Yup it's at the maximum level! My doubt is on the air fuel ratio

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                • I got a problem

                  My bike turns off when I let go my throttle... My idle rpm right now is like 1000 or 900 rpm... from what i read here...increasing the rpm would solve my problem right?..

                  please give me suggestions on this... if increasing my idle rpm would solve my problem...how do I do it? how to increase my idle rpm?

                  hey Prabhakar150 bro...how are you..? good to see you helping out people here.. when i bought my new bike you were the one who replied to my first post.. ..thanks for all ur help
                  Last edited by sudarsan7532; 03-26-2012, 02:11 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Wrathchild View Post
                    Ok and the T stem was welded because the cone wasn't stiff it was easily going in.And the mechanics used their brains lol and maybe messed it up I didnt even know what a T stem was like an year ago.They told me when fixing the cone that the cone should not go in easily in the T stem.

                    Ok...

                    Originally posted by Prabhakar150 View Post
                    Hi, First of all apologies for the delay as I got time today only to take pics. Here I posted the pics of both the spark plugs and the engine oil level. Is my bike running lean or rich? :S
                    Originally posted by Prabhakar150 View Post
                    Yup it's at the maximum level! My doubt is on the air fuel ratio
                    Plugs looks fine & healthy , not much to worry for .


                    Originally posted by sudarsan7532 View Post
                    I got a problem

                    My bike turns off when I let go my throttle... My idle rpm right now is like 1000 or 900 rpm... from what i read here...increasing the rpm would solve my problem right?..

                    please give me suggestions on this... if increasing my idle rpm would solve my problem...how do I do it? how to increase my idle rpm?

                    hey Prabhakar150 bro...how are you..? good to see you helping out people here.. when i bought my new bike you were the one who replied to my first post.. ..thanks for all ur help
                    I think u should hav the idle set between 1000-1300+- rpm when the engine is already hot i.e after 20-30mins of zip zap on road . If u keep the bike in this idle band u will see that the rpm will increase when engine is hotter but dont worry as it is Ok . This will hav no effect on fuel consumption is any case . try this .

                    Sirohi & Prabhakar , please do add & suggest
                    "BiKiNg in INDIA is like JOGGING in IRAQ ,something may HIT YOU"
                    --rpmboy


                    "Seniority is NOT how fast u ride ,its in how 'Well' you ride "
                    --rpmboy

                    ''Bajaj-ing Since 2000 AD''
                    --rpmboy


                    Ride A Bajaj ? make it big. Join BBIG -- A Social Group of xBhp.com .
                    sigpic

                    Ownerships going strong :-
                    Bajaj Chetak 1981...clocking 2,00,000kms+
                    Pulsar 150 DTSi 2004...clocking 75,000kms+

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                    • Originally posted by sudarsan7532 View Post
                      I got a problem

                      My bike turns off when I let go my throttle... My idle rpm right now is like 1000 or 900 rpm... from what i read here...increasing the rpm would solve my problem right?..

                      please give me suggestions on this... if increasing my idle rpm would solve my problem...how do I do it? how to increase my idle rpm?

                      hey Prabhakar150 bro...how are you..? good to see you helping out people here.. when i bought my new bike you were the one who replied to my first post.. ..thanks for all ur help
                      Well it's good to see you back after long gap When the engine is at operating temperature or in other words after riding your bike for some 5 kms, set your idle rpm to 1300. It won't shut off then. Adjust the idle rpm using the screw that rotates vertically, near carburettor, pointing towards ground.

                      Rpmboy bro, I am confused about the spark plug state. the electrode was pure white and so it's lean, isn't it? what else should I check in Carb precisely? So that I can say the mechanic to change that. The tube that connects the air filter box is also fine.

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                      • Originally posted by Prabhakar150 View Post
                        Well it's good to see you back after long gap When the engine is at operating temperature or in other words after riding your bike for some 5 kms, set your idle rpm to 1300. It won't shut off then. Adjust the idle rpm using the screw that rotates vertically, near carburettor, pointing towards ground.

                        Rpmboy bro, I am confused about the spark plug state. the electrode was pure white and so it's lean, isn't it? what else should I check in Carb precisely? So that I can say the mechanic to change that. The tube that connects the air filter box is also fine.


                        Prabhakar , I was going through different articles related to Lean mixture and wanted to share the same with you as the problems are very similar to your bike .

                        Problem :Grey/white in color, signs of tip burn = indicates hot running conditions, generally caused by a lean mixture.


                        Solution :

                        1st suspect will be for sure is itself the carb, check for fuel flowing inside for ignition , may b the fuel be too-much restricted, so engine hots up really fast , for the same may be you are getting good avg but it is heating the engine as shown by the spark plugs . If the fuel level in the float chamber is set too low, insufficient fuel will be drawn through the main jet . Check for leaks in carb mounting rubbers or partially blocked jets.


                        2nd case may be : If no changes have been made to the bike, and it previously ran well, a lean mixture can be traced to a leaking inlet manifold or leaking exhaust (often at the interface of header pipe and cylinder head).


                        Cause of problem :
                        This condition is typical after performance modifications such as fitting a different muffler, or changing the air filter type but this may not be in your case as as far as I knw the condition is stock .

                        What is the fuel economy of your bike , is it 55-65kmpl ?
                        Last edited by rpmboy; 03-27-2012, 11:34 AM.
                        "BiKiNg in INDIA is like JOGGING in IRAQ ,something may HIT YOU"
                        --rpmboy


                        "Seniority is NOT how fast u ride ,its in how 'Well' you ride "
                        --rpmboy

                        ''Bajaj-ing Since 2000 AD''
                        --rpmboy


                        Ride A Bajaj ? make it big. Join BBIG -- A Social Group of xBhp.com .
                        sigpic

                        Ownerships going strong :-
                        Bajaj Chetak 1981...clocking 2,00,000kms+
                        Pulsar 150 DTSi 2004...clocking 75,000kms+

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                        • Originally posted by Prabhakar150 View Post
                          Hi, First of all apologies for the delay as I got time today only to take pics. Here I posted the pics of both the spark plugs and the engine oil level. Is my bike running lean or rich? :S
                          your engine is running LEAN.

                          change the carb setting to little bit rich mixture.

                          regarding oil level. to know whether it is ok or not, plz tell us, whether the pic was taken with bike on main stand or without stand. ideally it should be checked on level ground with both tyres touching ground that is not on main stand, not on side stand.
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                          • Originally posted by rpmboy View Post
                            Prabhakar , I was going through different articles related to Lean mixture and wanted to share the same with you as the problems are very similar to your bike .

                            Problem :Grey/white in color, signs of tip burn = indicates hot running conditions, generally caused by a lean mixture.


                            Solution :

                            1st suspect will be for sure is itself the carb, check for fuel flowing inside for ignition , may b the fuel be too-much restricted, so engine hots up really fast , for the same may be you are getting good avg but it is heating the engine as shown by the spark plugs . If the fuel level in the float chamber is set too low, insufficient fuel will be drawn through the main jet . Check for leaks in carb mounting rubbers or partially blocked jets.


                            2nd case may be : If no changes have been made to the bike, and it previously ran well, a lean mixture can be traced to a leaking inlet manifold or leaking exhaust (often at the interface of header pipe and cylinder head).


                            Cause of problem :
                            This condition is typical after performance modifications such as fitting a different muffler, or changing the air filter type but this may not be in your case as as far as I knw the condition is stock .

                            What is the fuel economy of your bike , is it 55-65kmpl ?
                            I haven't checked the FE recently but I am sure it's not more than 48. My bike has few visual mods and no performance mods..

                            Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                            your engine is running LEAN.

                            change the carb setting to little bit rich mixture.

                            regarding oil level. to know whether it is ok or not, plz tell us, whether the pic was taken with bike on main stand or without stand. ideally it should be checked on level ground with both tyres touching ground that is not on main stand, not on side stand.
                            I had already set it rich, it's 3. 5 complete turns against manufacturer recommended 2. 5~. Still I can hardly see a difference. The oil level is measured when the bike was on centre stand, but I agree with you on measuring without stands. Anyways it's well above minimum level.

                            Thanks you both for the suggestions! I am gonna do a complete overhaul of the Carb and see if the problem still exists.

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                            • sometimes some strange things happen in pulsars, you may find a lot of pulsar owners running at 4.5 turns also. and just for record, mine runs at 6.5 turns. so keep on increasing till you find the heat to go down a bit.

                              above message has a warning sign attached to it: this is based on personal experience and collective experience of other P150 riders. take it or leave it. there are happy P150 riders at 2.5 turns too and there are others like me who are at 6.5 turns.

                              earlier my pulsar also used to run at company settings untill all of a sudden it started to heat too much with a burning smell. i tried everything but in the end had to increase this setting to get it right. similar things have happened with other riders too.

                              just one suggestion- while doing all this, keep an eye for fuel consumption.
                              sigpic

                              Tyre Sizes _ Spark Plugs

                              Headlight Focus _ Fork Oils

                              All India xBhp Couple Riders Thread

                              Ashtavinayak + Shirdi
                              Purandar
                              Raigad
                              Dapoli
                              Aurangabad
                              Kaas Plateu & Thoseghar Waterfalls
                              Purandar

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                              • Originally posted by Prabhakar150 View Post
                                Well it's good to see you back after long gap When the engine is at operating temperature or in other words after riding your bike for some 5 kms, set your idle rpm to 1300. It won't shut off then. Adjust the idle rpm using the screw that rotates vertically, near carburettor, pointing towards ground.

                                Rpmboy bro, I am confused about the spark plug state. the electrode was pure white and so it's lean, isn't it? what else should I check in Carb precisely? So that I can say the mechanic to change that. The tube that connects the air filter box is also fine.
                                Originally posted by rpmboy View Post
                                Ok...


                                I think u should hav the idle set between 1000-1300+- rpm when the engine is already hot i.e after 20-30mins of zip zap on road . If u keep the bike in this idle band u will see that the rpm will increase when engine is hotter but dont worry as it is Ok . This will hav no effect on fuel consumption is any case . try this .

                                Sirohi & Prabhakar , please do add & suggest

                                Hi there,

                                Thanks for your help, prabhakar and rpmboy my problem is fixed .. i did exactly as you said I rode my bike for sometime and then found out the idling screw and turned it, Now my idling rpm is 1500 and my bike does not stop anymore when i let go my throttle...

                                But I ****ed my bikes engine real badly, my bike is nine months old and I take my bike to office everyday, I ride about 60kms daily... I changed the engine oil first at 1500kms reading.... the next oil change I did was at 5000kms .... I usally rode my bike at 110kms to office since i ride on the Chennai bypass road which is highway...and once day when i rode above 110kms/hr my engine was like out of breath and started to slow down suddenly.. i pulled over gave it a rest and started again and it started, but the engine sound was completely different it became more rough.... then I took it to my mechanic who told me I have busted my piston rings or the pistons themselves and the engine oil will get evaporated very quick...

                                now wat happens is I have to change engine oil every 500kms since it get depleted very quick... the reason is the piston collides or has contact with the bore and results in lot of friction which causes heat and the heat burns up my engine oil..... my mechanic suggested the only solution to this is to change the piston and bore ....and it would cost me around 8k for that seems...

                                Guys should i take it to bajaj service center to fix the engine...? or should i leave it to my mechanic.. my mechanic is experienced with pulsars and apaches... im confused now ... I dont know wat to do.. my pulsar is out of warranty too since i did not use the free service..im ****ed
                                Last edited by sudarsan7532; 03-27-2012, 07:38 PM.

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