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  • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
    @ xionite

    from where did you source the projectors ??
    they appear too whitish and seems used...
    they are used projectors taken of a merc.
    and they just look whitish in the pic.
    they're pretty transparent... not as opaque as they look like in the pic.

    Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
    are they bixenon ???
    yes. they're mercedes bi-xenon... taken of an E series.

    Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
    and yes, even i love the way you put your name almost everywhere, infact you have put your name twice on that newspaper, one big and another smaller with the newspaper text, thats nice innovation....
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    • Navnish, you started selling 40W HIDs now? ...


      PSS: 35W HID Lamps for sale
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      • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post



        if you wish to keep the same 35w, then nothing will satisfy you in brightness apart from HID, as you say you don't wish to mod anything, then HID isn't possible, even to plonk a 55w you need to rewind the AC phase of your coil.
        the best solution is to change your bulb to phillips one (35w H4 type, germany) if the current one is Halonix, it does make a slight difference...
        Thanks for your reply my current one itself is a philips from company itself they put philips.
        K.Ravi

        Do check out my custom painted tail light in my DIY thread ;) ...

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        • Thanks for the reply Nano.I will have to go step by step for this process.

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          • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
            What's cooking abhi ???
            what are you upto ??
            as far as I know Zma's stator is 3 phase and it has a 3 phase rr too ...
            and I've also heard that it can give upto 235w, though i have no idea about p220..

            1 more thing which i wanted to know, isn't it true that a single phase coil will provide much amount of ampere as well as voltage as compared to a 3 phase one ??
            three phase seems to be much more distributed, i somehow feel that it won't give much amps as well as voltage ( i can be wrong, its just what i feel) but arguably all the coils which are known to be the best in the business and known to give 235w are 3 phase itself.....
            Planning a dual HID, proj setup on my new R15! Its still some time away though.

            I too dont have much background in 3 phase. They seem to distribute power evenly. The power should be more for a 3 phase. (But I am not sure about this). One thing I know is 3 phase coils are much compact for the power they give out.
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            • Originally posted by Sharan_R View Post
              Navnish, you started selling 40W HIDs now? ...


              PSS: 35W HID Lamps for sale
              dont sell it . keep the kit buy one more 40w

              Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
              Planning a dual HID, proj setup on my new R15! Its still some time away though.

              I too dont have much background in 3 phase. They seem to distribute power evenly. The power should be more for a 3 phase. (But I am not sure about this). One thing I know is 3 phase coils are much compact for the power they give out.
              one more projector r15 nice its raining projectors.


              Guys its been like more then 2 months now have been using led indicators and tail lamp.

              Its not a straight fit need to make changes to the indicators to fit the bulb . The holder type is 1157 for tail lamp and 1156 for the indicators.

              The indicators and tail lamp are a bit pricey but its totally worth it .

              Tail lamp is a straight fit . The indicators need to be modded to fit . I am currently using a 36led indicator with 36 led tail lamp. The second pic in the right.

              PM me if anyone looking for a set of indicators and tail lamps.
              Last edited by navnish; 12-20-2010, 11:58 AM.
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              • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

                I am thinking of rewinding my R15. I am planning to go 2 step lower in the gauge of the wire and keep the existing 3 phase structure in place.

                I need to know the best 3 phase RR unit on the market.

                How powerful is the P220's 3 phase alternator?

                Also, is the ZMA/ZMR's alternator 3 phase too? And output power?


                Planning a dual HID, proj setup on my new R15! Its still some time away though.

                I too dont have much background in 3 phase. They seem to distribute power evenly. The power should be more for a 3 phase. (But I am not sure about this). One thing I know is 3 phase coils are much compact for the power they give out.
                Abhi, it seems practical. Read the last portion highlighted.

                Yeah this is what I also learnt about 3 phase. Its more stable and smaller than single phase in distribution.

                Most of the electric power in the world are 3 phase bcz it was proven that 3 phase was far superior to single phase power. 3 phase power is typically 150% more efficient than single phase in the same power range.

                In a single phase unit the power falls to zero three times during each cycle, in 3 phase it never drops to zero. The power delivered to the load is the same at any instant.

                Also, in 3 phase the conductors need only be 75% the size of conductors for single phase for the same power output.

                BTW, Does the R15 has a single phase alternator?

                ZMA, P220 & Bullet are having 3 phase alternators am not sure about the ZMR, may be Shree can comment.

                If u've any plans to go for a 3 phase RR I would suggest to go for Bulls as its the only one feeding a 14A battery so it can feed as much as it can, not knowing the output of other two RRs though.

                Have u made up ur mind to fiddle with the warranty?
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                • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                  Abhi, it seems practical. Read the last portion highlighted.

                  Yeah this is what I also learnt about 3 phase. Its more stable and smaller than single phase in distribution.

                  Most of the electric power in the world are 3 phase bcz it was proven that 3 phase was far superior to single phase power. 3 phase power is typically 150% more efficient than single phase in the same power range.

                  In a single phase unit the power falls to zero three times during each cycle, in 3 phase it never drops to zero. The power delivered to the load is the same at any instant.

                  Also, in 3 phase the conductors need only be 75% the size of conductors for single phase for the same power output.

                  BTW, Does the R15 has a single phase alternator?

                  ZMA, P220 & Bullet are having 3 phase alternators am not sure about the ZMR, may be Shree can comment.

                  If u've any plans to go for a 3 phase RR I would suggest to go for Bulls as its the only one feeding a 14A battery so it can feed as much as it can, not knowing the output of other two RRs though.

                  Have u made up ur mind to fiddle with the warranty?
                  ZMA/ZMR both have 3 phase alternators. ZMA has 188w as stock and ZMR has 232w stock alternators (as per papers).

                  Regarding Bullet RR, I think he can put the RR and test before rewinding. As Bull's are low revving machines the coil pumps less but RR generates more. So my wild guess is, the RR might fail if we put more power i.e when revving high.

                  He has bought a sparingly used, well maintained used R15. So no warranty.

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                  • Originally posted by ajay_meda View Post
                    i would like to have all white light for my karizma. been using phillips crystal vision.

                    the front pilots are of different size than the rear number plate bulb, so im not able to fix them at the rear.

                    any white bulb available of same size??
                    query approved and merged.
                    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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                    • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                      BTW, Does the R15 has a single phase alternator?

                      ZMA, P220 & Bullet are having 3 phase alternators am not sure about the ZMR, may be Shree can comment.

                      If u've any plans to go for a 3 phase RR I would suggest to go for Bulls as its the only one feeding a 14A battery so it can feed as much as it can, not knowing the output of other two RRs though.

                      Have u made up ur mind to fiddle with the warranty?
                      Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                      ZMA/ZMR both have 3 phase alternators. ZMA has 188w as stock and ZMR has 232w stock alternators (as per papers).

                      Regarding Bullet RR, I think he can put the RR and test before rewinding. As Bull's are low revving machines the coil pumps less but RR generates more. So my wild guess is, the RR might fail if we put more power i.e when revving high.

                      He has bought a sparingly used, well maintained used R15. So no warranty.
                      I did not buy a new one coz I wanted to save some money, and have the freedom to experiment a bit!

                      Regarding the Bull's RR unit, my doubt is with the high revving nature of the R15 engine. This engine does 8-9k rpms with ease during everyday driving - rpms which a bull will never see. Frequency wise, it gets almost double of what the RR unit was designed for.

                      Let us decide between, ZMR/P220. Which one do you guys suggest?
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                      • sorry to burdge in but here is some info about stock r 15 s electricals and some mod i did few days back in one of my friens bike ..

                        STOCK IS 160WATT@8K RPM!!!
                        3 PHASE.

                        STILL THE RPM BELOW 5 K THE OUTPUT IS TOO LOW,LESS THEN 3 AMOS!!!!!!!

                        WHAT I DID TOOK THE COIL AND STRIPPED IT OFF AND USED 17 GAUGE WIRE TOTAL 85-90 FEET. AND PLONK IT ON APE RR AND NOW HE IS USING 2 55/60 BULBS NON STOP,JUST THE THING IS HE IS NOT HAPPY WITH THE BATTERY ,A UPGRADE OF 6+WILL BE GREAT..
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                        • Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                          sorry to burdge in but here is some info about stock r 15 s electricals and some mod i did few days back in one of my friens bike ..

                          STOCK IS 160WATT@8K RPM!!!
                          3 PHASE.

                          STILL THE RPM BELOW 5 K THE OUTPUT IS TOO LOW,LESS THEN 3 AMOS!!!!!!!

                          WHAT I DID TOOK THE COIL AND STRIPPED IT OFF AND USED 17 GAUGE WIRE TOTAL 85-90 FEET. AND PLONK IT ON APE RR AND NOW HE IS USING 2 55/60 BULBS NON STOP,JUST THE THING IS HE IS NOT HAPPY WITH THE BATTERY ,A UPGRADE OF 6+WILL BE GREAT..
                          Wow! Great! I was thinking when you would reply.

                          Some questions - what is the stock AWG? How tightly is the stock winding done? Extra space to wind some more turns than stock? And is the stator coil dipped in engine oil like Hondas?

                          Also, doc any idea about the stock P220 o/p in terms of watts?

                          I have made up my mind to keep the 3-phase structure in place. Just have to decide between ZMR/P220 RR unit. P220 might be cheaper and easily available.

                          R15 stock is 160W at 5k rpm.
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                          • how to check stock wattage ???
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                            • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                              how to check stock wattage ???
                              AFAIK it will be given in manual

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                              • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                                I did not buy a new one coz I wanted to save some money, and have the freedom to experiment a bit!

                                Regarding the Bull's RR unit, my doubt is with the high revving nature of the R15 engine. This engine does 8-9k rpms with ease during everyday driving - rpms which a bull will never see. Frequency wise, it gets almost double of what the RR unit was designed for.

                                Let us decide between, ZMR/P220. Which one do you guys suggest?

                                Abhi/Shree dont worry about the rpm and frequency right now. Think about the APE RR usage, its using in a diesel engine where 4K will be the max rpm I guess. We guys r using it on our bikes and screwing to the red line ie; 9k. Did that conked off? No.. See the fellow member Kauria is using Bull RR on its RTR for a single phase alt still its giving its best. So I guess it wont be an issue when it comes to charging as its a very robust and rugged one specially made for Bikers.

                                If u r still doubtful about the capabilities then go for the P220 RR being its the cheapest. But keeping in mind that it has its limits in pumping rates where ur requirement is 2 HIDs. I think Rahul can comment on about the battery drain when 2 HIDs at a time. Rahul pls come up and give ur testimony
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